Is it really too much to ask that media include at least a reference to how this is all illegal? Tired of the normalizing effect of describing it as if it is legitimate.
I'm with you, shits fucked right now, but not every headline can be "wow crazy shit we're all fucked". Obviously the Associated Press is fighting the current administration in court and doing what they can, but im sick of people demanding more and more from something as simple as a headline
Or too much to ask that someone point out the obvious fact that this proves they don't actually care about efficiency or revenue, since the IRS returns about $7 for every dollar spent.
My guess is they will still want money from us normal people and will use whatever agents are left to make sure we do. People with money however will likely find it even easier to cheat on their taxes.
I mean you’re really not wrong. I don’t see why anyone should feel bad about cheating on their taxes now that it’s just money they’re gonna steal and not provide any actual government services anymore.
1. The tax system should be fair
2. Regardless of whether it's fair everyone should pay exactly what they owe to the last cent and no more.
3. If it's not fair elect people who will make it fair.
2. Regardless of how you cuck for the government stealing money from the population isn’t a right of a government
3. If it’s not fair we don’t have to pay and I dare you to try come collect 😃 we can put democracy to work in real time
it helps the really rich tax avoiders more because it takes more resources to go through the opaque tax returns of rich people. they'll probably still be able to catch some poor people undeservedly claiming the eitc tho probably.
Yes reduced IRS traps middle class people on EITC and things that apply to many, but are easy to fuck up. Most ppl don’t have resources to challenge audit
And like you said audits on rich are more complicated—and the rich would far rather pay teams of lawyers than their taxes
These employees are going to be fired by AI, and then, replaced by AI. I wish there was more media coverage about DOGE and its AI ambitions. @wired.com is doing some coverage on it, but that’s about it.
Now they’ll come after the middle class. But who knows maybe these people (auditors) will slow walk everything. Silent revolution at the IRS. Nobody pays taxes. No penalties. Hey, you have a tax dodging felon in the White House and you’re going after $3,000. Please. It’s a joke.
If I understand correctly, if current past due taxes were to be collected, it would wipe out a good chunk of the national debt. So we should add more staff, like the Biden administration did, and collect billions, like the Biden administration did. Oh wait. That’s why they’re doing this.
Of course. We don’t want anyone there to collect the (too low) taxes from the wealthy, and audit them when they cheat. What do we expect in a plutocracy
Sure, we already lose over a trillion dollars from rich people not paying the taxes they already owe, mostly from not having the IRS workers to enforce taxes, but, ok, let's cut that workforce in half. I'm sure we won't lose more tax revenue from that ...
Having fewer workers doesn’t mean you won’t still have to pay your taxes. It means wealthy people will be able to cheat more and there won’t be enough IRS agents to claw back the money from these cheaters. Then the rest of us will have to pay more
When you are robbed of your jobs, houses, cars, food etc., flee to Europe. We still take in Refugees who are oppressed by a dictator. For example the Netherlands, here no one has to live on the streets or in their cars. The Dutch call it 'civilization'
Yeah, the same Europeans who let refugee boats capsize off their shores while their coast guards watch? Who treat climate and war migrants like dirt if they have skin darker than a paper bag? Get off your high horse; autocracy is coming for your systems too.
He claims to be rooting out fraud. Here is an agency with highly skilled auditors who do just that and he fires them. Making tax evasion great again. Largest revenue organization in the Federal government.
Suddenly, I just remembered that I have 7 more dependents, and I have $10,000 in expenses for my new board gaming business. I should probably backfile those into the previous 5 years since no one is checking these anymore.
The federal tax collector employs roughly 90,000 workers total across the United States, according to the latest IRS data. People of color make up 56% of the IRS workforce, and women represent 65%.
3 Groups are inside the US gov. working together to destroy it. They will soon start fighting as they try to build a new government.
Each has a different vision for the future:
if only we could afford to provide jobs for american families. guess we cant! oh well! time to send another 4 trillion to israel so they can afford genocide AND public Healthcare
While no one loves the IRS, they’ve been understaffed since Covid because so many of the long-timers decided to retire. Just slashing another 40,000 doesn’t help ( especially for those who do count on their refunds to pay bills - yes, a dumb financial move, but lots of people do it).
they are measuring how much tax revenue the irs agents are able
to recover with audits. half the agents means half the tax revenue recovered. the statement is confusing because tax revenue wouldn’t correlate 1:1
Taxpayers who need help during tax filing season will be on hold "twice" as long. If people have the feeling that they will be "half" as likely to be audited they may push the envelop.
Not literally, the point is the IRS is a profit center, not a cost center. If they are cutting half the IRS staff it is likely less tax will be collected, maybe not half, but likely less.
I cannot speak to the veracity of this, but someone on here said they aren’t checking your dependents? I have always felt I should be able to count my dog.
Gosh, one would think they understood that 70% of GDP is consumer SPENDING. No jobs, no healthcare, no school lunches, no social security, increased basic grocery. The Hugely Depression
It is becoming apparent that Trump's intent is to completely collapse the US and have a military junta take over. Probably one that includes literal Russian military leaders.
Hedging a bit, just in case it is revealed that secretly, he DOES love America and wants to make things better not pay dues to Putin or quench his black hole of emotional need resulting from a lack of attachment in toddler years.
Look, I am not a stats person or particularly knowledgeable on economics in general, but it seems to me that you want a strong workforce to generate profits and consumerism. How do you get that if you're firing/laying-off tens of thousands of people? What are these people supposed to do?
All these hillbillies and trailer park retards thinking this is good as if the IRS is interested in auditing these people who make $17,000 a year at the dirt factory. Fucking rubes
Start asking folks if they have gotten their tax return. Filed ours a month ago. They have "no record" of it, but also told us our return had been deposited in our bank (it has not been).
You should include whether this is legal or not, which it is NOT. And how it enables the rich to cheat on taxes even more. A problem over $400 billion in revenue every year.
It’s 1000 times easier to audit and go after the bottom 50% of the population that hold only 2.8% of the US wealth. Because they can’t afford legal help.
Musk is planning on installing a half-assed AI Bot to process returns.
Audits for the Proles and none for wealthy and corporations.
They want to starve revenues to justify cutting the government they don't like.
So we get half the roads, half the social security, half the military, half the education, half the food safety, all from the guy who is half the man we deserve in a most mediocre President.
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The president can raise and spend money as fit through, anyone? Anyone? Tariffs.
The CBP collects tariff revenues and deposits it into the general fund.
2. Regardless of whether it's fair everyone should pay exactly what they owe to the last cent and no more.
3. If it's not fair elect people who will make it fair.
2. Regardless of how you cuck for the government stealing money from the population isn’t a right of a government
3. If it’s not fair we don’t have to pay and I dare you to try come collect 😃 we can put democracy to work in real time
And like you said audits on rich are more complicated—and the rich would far rather pay teams of lawyers than their taxes
Or that DOGE eliminated the unit charged with auditing high net worth returns.
But no, instead it's written like Trump's PR team had first crack at it.
The federal tax collector employs roughly 90,000 workers total across the United States, according to the latest IRS data. People of color make up 56% of the IRS workforce, and women represent 65%.
Each has a different vision for the future:
Tech Bros = technofascism
Heritage Fnd. = theocracy
Russia = autocratic oligarchy
It will be chaos.
Protest! Resist!
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Taxes will *have* to increase. The rubes can thank their orange goblin.
. . . And be assured, that bureaucracy *will* get rebuilt (Bannon be damned.)
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/irs-recovers-back-taxes-braces-cuts-trump-gop/3623081/
to recover with audits. half the agents means half the tax revenue recovered. the statement is confusing because tax revenue wouldn’t correlate 1:1
Congress should use its power to regulate commerce to take control of IRS.
Soldiers from Canada have fought against our enemies many times over the years.
Canada and the people of Canada have earned the right to be treated well by our government and our people.
All they needed was one angry old useful idiot and a catatonic GOP party unwilling to fulfill their oath of office.
Didn’t have to fire a single bullet.
He’s a traitor. Are you convinced yet?
The #GOP doesn't like revenue collection
https://youtu.be/BckkLhAcH6I?si=GwDeqP9OOEbkBE1I
Audits for the Proles and none for wealthy and corporations.
They want to starve revenues to justify cutting the government they don't like.
What happens when no one gets their tax return?
MAGA is fucking around. I think the American people might just help them find out. 🤨
Some response times are already 18 months.