I cannot believe how many Dem leaders are failing the “It is wrong to kidnap people for exercising free speech” test. - ThreadSky

vermontgmg.bsky.social • 15 hours ago

I cannot believe how many Dem leaders are failing the “It is wrong to kidnap people for exercising free speech” test.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer finally releases a statement on Mahmoud Khalil.

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It’s kind of remarkable that they still haven’t learned their lesson from being feckless on resisting Trumpism the last 4 years.

dankeevy.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I appreciate the Thomasesque, "we're here to talk about this absolute piece of shit, here's everything he ever did to anyone."

jperks54.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Schumer is a weak 💩

reelgrl.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Tired of Chucky

wndlb.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Respectfully disagree; that last paragraph could have come out of a 2006 drawer, challenging the administration to ‘put up or…’

rocknrollghost.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I can.

shawncoreymusic.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Enough!!!!!!!!
FFS.
Love,
A concerned Canadian

vagabending.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The fact that so many Jews are failing this test is what gets me (as a Jew)... did you all forget the holocaust and what happened and how it went in stages etc... are you blind as well as dumb?

dwightfisher.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Ds had 4 years to shore up the “guardrails” of democracy and did NOTHING. They even knew the plan for what was coming (I saw them waving “Project 2025” around on their convention stage!), and still did NOTHING. They appear most upset that dear leader hasn’t kept his “promise” of low egg prices.

artemidorus.bsky.social•13 hours ago

They could have excluded trump from ever running for federal office again, but they failed.

cesarini.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Oh could they? Pray do tell how they could have.

feralmystic.io•14 hours ago

Gotta kiss the Israeli boot for two paragraphs before meekly suggesting that the right to due process might be important. Sounds about right for a Democrat.

cheezeweazel.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Most Democrats failed the "Genocide is bad" test so frankly I don't know how you're surprised.

my-random-name.bsky.social•11 hours ago

When the question is:

“Exterminate children? Y/N”

I mean you could at least expect 50% to get it correct/guess. Right?

screams
.

feralmystic.io•14 hours ago

💯

turn-left.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Because many of them are frauds and cowards.

okcomputer23.bsky.social•6 hours ago

It wasn't even that long a statement and you couldn't finish it?

my2bits4u.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Trump is now taking hostages

catsareheavenly.bsky.social•13 hours ago

True colors being shown?

gonyeneho.bsky.social•13 hours ago

blackcatcrosses.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Find out develop a fucking spine Schumer!

profjslewis.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The statement pretty clearly says that it’s wrong.

liberationnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

…after basically slandering Khalil

profjslewis.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Slandering how?

liberationnow.bsky.social•9 hours ago

He asserted with no evidence that Khalil was antisemitic

profjslewis.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Oh, I read that as Schumer decrying the antisemitism that occurred on campus - not that it was specific to Khalil. Either way, I think Schumer is saying exactly what he should: he disagrees with Khalil, but is standing up for his rights nonetheless.

liberationnow.bsky.social•9 hours ago

He doesn’t even need to mention how he feels about Khalil!

ICE shouldn’t be capturing people with no warrant, period!

People should not be held without trial or charge for ANY reason!

lv426jm.bsky.social•12 hours ago

They are not leaders at all. They showed their true colors, and they failed miserably. Shame on them and shame on us for believing in them.

ewigeliberal.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Schumer~feckless, noodle brained paragon of do-nothing centrism publishes more drivel. On [x]itter no less!

amirighteousnow.bsky.social•13 hours ago

If you are deporting individuals who are here legally then deport those Nazis who protested in Charolette, Tennessee, Ohio & DC!

pollenatrix60.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Hakeem Jeffries & Chuck Schumer are failing democracy & Democrats & they need to step down as Leader & Minority Leader. Call them & tell them to do so. Call Jeffries at (202) 225-5936 or (718) 237-2211. Call Schumer at (202) 224-6542 or (212) 486-4430 (Schumer has 9 offices - who's paying?)

realchrispeterson.bsky.social•14 hours ago

You think he should have said it was not wrong?

webrant.bsky.social•13 hours ago

They all have a certain paid alliance with foreign fascists in common.

https://bsky.app/profile/vermontgmg.bsky.social/post/3lk4v6mlp7k2k

dc-757.bsky.social•13 hours ago

The issue is due process, not free speech.

jstephenclark.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Chuck Schumer hasn’t been credible on anything related to the occupied territories for years.

mediocrecoder.bsky.social•13 hours ago

He still has to shill for Israel- cut the guy some slack

billstir.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Are we now in th Navalny stage??

evanstarr.bsky.social•14 hours ago

where is he doing that here? This is a pretty reasonable statement, what's wrong about it?

liberationnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

He spends most of the statement criticizing Khalid, and *then* says “well, if he’s innocent I guess he should be let go.”

kburak.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Epic fail, Senator Schumer.

sifill.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Isn’t that what he said? I’m confused.

trurl2020.bsky.social•10 hours ago

That's kind of the point...Schumer does basically get around to saying this eventually, but anyone outside the terminally online has stopped paying attention well before then. No-one would understand how serious this is from Schumer's comment. A good communicator would cut straight to the issue.

camillesoderstrom.bsky.social•12 hours ago

No, he just said the steps that they need to fulfill in order to kidnap him all the while lying about Khalil’s stance which is not anti-Semitic but anti-genocide

jeffhauser.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Throat clearing attacks on the victim are seriously problematic, just as it has been problematic for people to embrace right wing stereotypes about "government inefficiency" before decrying DOGE. Do not concede anything in order to make a purportedly nuanced point, it undercuts the emotional impact.

reallyreallyreal.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Nothing makes a stronger argument that you’re for free speech than defending speech that you disagree with which is exactly what he’s doing. You people just want to chase clout online for your nihilist dipshit followers.

schlotrvlr.bsky.social•13 hours ago

This is a reasonable argument about the tone of the message, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say it was an "attack" on the victim. Putting the last paragraph 1st or even 2nd could've set a better overall tone about the situation, perhaps. Starting out w/ negatives hampers the ending, obviously.

schlotrvlr.bsky.social•13 hours ago

That said, I think your last point is the best. 👏👏

rainsurname.bsky.social•10 hours ago

I'm not going to get too fucking fussed over an elderly Jew leading with "I really do not like this," & neither should anyone else.

I am so fucking tired of the way people on here turn "Dems don't say something the way I think they should" into "Dems are throwing so & so under the bus."

mcnater.com•14 hours ago

This

wndlb.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Do you know, for certain, what the whole US IC, and the ICs of still-cooperating nations have—if anything—on Kkalil? I don’t, and we don’t know if Trump47 has a Gang of Four.
Schumer isn’t just a poster on Bluesky.

wndlb.bsky.social•12 hours ago

jerky thumb, sorry

jeffhauser.bsky.social•12 hours ago

The ICE guy didn't even know he had a green card when they grabbed him. And the odds that this involved Columbia but is real and coincidental rather than a response to media fixation with that campus... I mean, c'mon

allenbussell.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Trump will deport and ask questions later. Like he did when he separated children from their families. Some things cannot be undone.

seejayone.bsky.social•9 hours ago

He couched his statement so much I’m surprised JD Vance didn’t make an appearance.

nlrg.bsky.social•14 hours ago

youre confused because you read the whole thing and nobody else did

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

We did read the whole thing. Schumer spent more time smearing Khalil than he did saying he shouldn’t have been kidnapped by the state.

schlotrvlr.bsky.social•13 hours ago

The last paragraph is the longest of all. Would it have *appeared* better to you had the order been changed b/c there aren't any lies there, even if it isn't "less critical" as you wanted? Pointing out uni rules may have been broken isn't a smear. It says actual evidence is necessary pretty clearly.

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

It’s still only one third of the fucking post. Pointing out uni rules isn’t relevant. Calling him antisemitic is just insulting and a lie. Christ, you people will do anything to protect Dems from any amount of criticism.

sifill.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Which people?

nlrg.bsky.social•12 hours ago

i infer (possibly in error) from context that you are supportive of the columbia protestors and their aims; clearly sen. schumer is not. is that the essence of your criticism? or would you object to this sort of statement even if mr. khalil were an activist for a cause you found odious?

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Here’s an example of a statement that is actually meaningful.

https://bsky.app/profile/pressley.house.gov/post/3lk4p3bz3j22e

schlotrvlr.bsky.social•11 hours ago

No one is "protecting" anyone because I disagree with YOU, jfc. He did not "call" *him* antisemitic either. Christ, you people will do anything to complain about Dems not tailoring their messaging to suit you.

gonyeneho.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Having Chuckles Schumer do literally nothing is more preferable than this maundering, weaksauce, backhanded drivel.

sdartie.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Chuck works for and supports Netanyahu

jkfecke.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Schumer literally says that if there's no crime, he should be freed.

liberationnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

…after insinuating without evidence that Khalid is an antisemite

herostratus356.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The 🍉 crowd spent a year either opposing Democrats or giving them the most lukewarm, backhanded support.

Now they're angry that they're getting the same thing in return.

pumpactionmusket.bsky.social•14 hours ago

This is why Trump chose to start with a Palestinian activist, he knew how vulnerable they were and how much the Democratic Party will drag its feet and even give further legitimacy to his actions.

leonceg.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Need a clean sweep. These old guard dems have just got to go. Primary every last one of them. Don't give them a dime.

megamanchego.bsky.social•14 hours ago

What a cowardly little piece of shit

devilishlydo.bsky.social•15 hours ago

I fucking can. The Democratic Party is to courageous Democrats what white folks are to seasoning: They can't handle very much or they start crying and snotting on themselves.

magdi.bsky.social•15 hours ago

I don't agree. People are clearly confused about aspects of this case. Schumer is trying to address the differences in premises.

davidrobbo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I can, sadly

rahvin.bsky.social•15 hours ago

That's the book on Schumer, though, he fails at absolutely everything except fundraising. That's why he has his position, he raises a ton of money for the party. Time for the party to realize that money is nearly useless when het gets the table run on him on everything else and push him to make way.

rahvin.bsky.social•14 hours ago

For someone who is actually effective.

premoe-williams.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Dem pols are failing because they can't separate their wealth from their duty and are afraid that if they do their duty, they will lose their wealth.

wearethecapital.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Ding. Clear it all out. Start over. Nobody can really be trusted.

themadstatist.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Both his and Jeff statements might as well be written by AIPAC.

themadstatist.bsky.social•11 hours ago

It makes a lot of sense when you think about who his big campaign contributors are...

themadstatist.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Not disagreeing with you btw.

chrisarrick.bsky.social•14 hours ago

You tell ‘em, @chuckschumer.com Nothing they fear more than a strongly worded social media post.

imhiding.bsky.social•15 hours ago

So many people forget the simple lessons.

https://youtu.be/iQ0ct9bglYo?si=mesSpxdI_9ANt7Pl

debbielynn52.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Schumer does not have the backbone or strategy needed right now to tackle musk/trump/what’s his name vp…

parsonslab.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I am no big fan of Schumer, but he refers to the 1st amendment. come on Garrett

liberationnow.bsky.social•10 hours ago

…in the last sentence

shawnfoss.bsky.social•14 hours ago

You're probably going to find a lot of overlap if you put a list of those Dem leaders who are failing next to a list of Dems who received funding from AIPAC.

tokenize.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I mean, what exactly are you looking for? Saying, "I don't agree with the guy but he deserves due process, and this seems like a 1A violation," seems to be in there, verbose as it may be.

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

He could lead with it being wrong to kidnap and disappear someone, and leave out all the anti-Palestinian attacks.

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The first paragraph is "Fuck Khalil." The second paragraph is "Seriously, fuck Khalil." The third is where he gives a fucking TERRIBLE and mealy-mouthed suggestion that it's not okay to kidnap and disappear someone without due process, where he heavily implies he'd be okay with it if he were just

tokenize.bsky.social•14 hours ago

We're reading two different statements, it seems. I've been no fan of Schumer's beating around the bush, but this is a pretty clear, "I don't agree with him but he has a right to speak," message. It's a marked positive difference from folks like Fetterman saying Columbia deserves its funding cut.

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

He calls him antisemitic my dude. Yeah, we clearly are reading different statements if you think parroting the disingenuous framing the Republicans made is a good statement. Being better than Fetterman is not a very high bar to clear and it's not one I am going to find acceptable.

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Schumer spent more time smearing Khalil than he did saying Khalil shouldn’t have been kidnapped.

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

arrested and put on trial without being disappeared first.

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I'm so fucking sick of the Dems, they aren't as bad as Republicans but boy howdy they sure are trying to be.

iisawell.bsky.social•14 hours ago

So many phone calls… a girl’s got to work. Fuck.

macurry.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Chuckie needs to retire. Too old and out of touch

ajl22.bsky.social•14 hours ago

@schumer.senate.gov @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social need to be replaced! They do not represent Democrats with a full chest. They only give mouth service to things that need action instead. They are intimidated by Republicans & capitulate to them. They are an embarrassment to us Democrats!

fiftyburger.bsky.social•14 hours ago

there are no dem leaders, just a few assholes with titles

jcwilder.bsky.social•13 hours ago

We live in a really, really dumb timeline.

gwbiscuit.bsky.social•14 hours ago

“Well, he said some mean things about Israel so MAYBE he deserves this? 🤷” as a stance is fucking disgusting from @schumer.senate.gov and @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social

mikeyj79.bsky.social•13 hours ago

I can.
They went along with worse things before. It’s suddenly more appalling when “it’s Americans”?

hortonsis.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Dem leaders are a bunch of old white witless men.

bigblueplanet.bsky.social•13 hours ago

They let AIPAC lead them around by their noses instead of serving the people.

cristianfarias.com•14 hours ago

Did he?

faeelin.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Wow the Bezos employee is lying. Shocking.

winterpancake.bsky.social•11 hours ago

tanks4all.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Perhaps sending a loud message with a protest vote will be effective next time?

livingthevida.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Time for all these feckless elected officials to go.

jcolemarbio.bsky.social•14 hours ago

How is Schumer failing that test here?

jhpodesta.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Next up? The Gestapo and "disappearing" the opposition.

americanevolution.bsky.social•15 hours ago

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Nobody. Literally no one ever says this anymore.

scopedogg.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The one universal rule of American politics is that everyone has to be in thrall to Israel

rocketdog3.bsky.social•just now

Al Dems do is eat Dems.

smokeygeo.bsky.social•13 hours ago

this Khalil guy shouldn't be deported, as a green card holder, but he seems out of step with the US mainstream. Not sure worth spending political capital on, as opposed to cuts to Medicare, SS and Medicaid. This is a battle the Republicans want to fight

lamentablyawake.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Eventually if Democrats throw enough marginalised people under the bus and abandon enough rights and freedoms everything will be ok.

smokeygeo.bsky.social•9 hours ago

dems need to focus now on the mainstream, not the marginalized ppl. A focus on the latter is an election loser. Elections are about winning, not therapy for activist causes

xarthras.bsky.social•8 hours ago

No. Abandoning marginalized people cost Democrats the last election. They were promising to be tougher on the border than Trump and layed the groundwork for throwing trans people under the bus to try to win over Republican voters they were never going to get. It cost them millions from their base.

smokeygeo.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I was in Pennsylvania where the media were saturated with anti-trans ads. Remember, 70% of voters don’t have college degrees. What do you say to someone who works in a car repair shop? Those are the voters who count.

xarthras.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I don't give a fuck where you were. Nobody convinced by ads is ever going to vote Democrat because they believe whatever Republicans say about them. Democrats lost millions from their base by abandoning marginalized groups. They need to court voters who will vote for them and right-wingers ain't it

mbletst.bsky.social•10 hours ago

well they're also not doing that

victorialove.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Gods. Schumer wouldn’t say “shit”, if he had a mouthful.

Get the hook. We deserve better.

georgejohnston.bsky.social•14 hours ago

They are beholden to a higher power- billionaires that will take their calls.

absolutereality.blog•13 hours ago

To anyone unclear on the difference between the Schumer and Jeffries statements and what a statement with a moral center would look like

reallyreallyreal.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Literacy seems to be hard for you, let me help you out bud:

faustbot.bsky.social•11 hours ago

A lot of people are going to have to come to grips with being way too optimistic about Democrats as a party and as individuals.

durruticalm.bsky.social•8 hours ago

of course they're failing, they failed when they were in charge too!

erupton.bsky.social•6 hours ago

SO many people to block here.

tadhgdalaigh.bsky.social•14 hours ago

They are owned by AIPAC $$$.

uhjustin.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Not impressed with this take.

proptermalone.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Is it too much to ask that you read the statement

parkerkosticak.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It could use stronger language but it hits all the marks. My fear was that he would say nothing.

trurl2020.bsky.social•10 hours ago

dhnexon.bsky.social•14 hours ago

That would interfere with #theNarrative

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Classically the best way to deal with the enemy is by actually fighting the enemy, but a lot of our peers on here seem want to go after our only political party that is a proven electoral vehicle for defeating the GOP and effecting lasting social changes to the state.

parkerkosticak.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It’s just this really.

manycoyote.bsky.social•14 hours ago

i'm sorry are you insulting chuck schumer by calling him a leftist I'm pretty sure he'd take that as a personal slur.

parkerkosticak.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Unfortunately, it’s still true. He’s stuck in the leftist pot boiling together.

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Schumer is NOT a leftist of any kind.

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•14 hours ago

To botch an analogy, and I deeply apologise for it, it feels like parts of this site are ignoring Trump/MAGA/Musk (Russia) and instead beating up on Dems (Ukraine). Again, hideously bad analogy, but anyway

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I'd just add that anecdotally, down here in Australia, from left leaning to very left people the very first comment I get about US politics is "Dems aren;t doing enough" and very little "I am white hot angry about the ongoing project of destruction of a fellow democracy". Meanwhile, me:

accountabilabuddy.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Mainly people stopped entertaining the delusion that Republicans will cut out the white supremacist cancer that has overtaken them, or will protect the constitution from a fatal threat.

They seem to hope Democrats can still be tricked, coerced, or threatened into doing the right thing. Optimism!

detcrashmore.bsky.social•14 hours ago

When people say the Dems aren’t doing enough, that means they aren’t doing enough to combat the very thing you’re worried about.

You’re mad at people on Bluesky for not calling out republicans more. Those same people are mad at congressman for not calling out republicans more.

You’re the asshole.

manycoyote.bsky.social•14 hours ago

wow have you informed the democrats about this 'fighting' strategy. they could learn a lot.

grahamshevlin.bsky.social•12 hours ago

I like people who issue blunt statements about the lawless, instead of equivocating and dissembling.

dhnexon.bsky.social•12 hours ago

But it’s not an equivocal statement; conditional is not equivocal. Put up or shut up is not equivocal.

grahamshevlin.bsky.social•12 hours ago

You are correct, I used the wrong terminology.

dabenner.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Probably!

cudasbob.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Yeah I'm not reading all that LOL

Here for the vibes

coloradorob.bsky.social•13 hours ago

He could have just said "Detaining legal immigrants for their political opinions and speech goes against America's most fundamental values as a nation. If he has done anything that warrants arrest, make those charges known now!"

But mealy-mouthed statements is all Dem leadership can muster.

mister-sterling.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It is far too long. And it shows, clearly, that Democrats hate Palestinians almost as much as Republicans do. Schumer could have just said that most of his constituents oppose pro-Palestinian protests, but being arrested for organizing a protest is abhorrent no matter our thoughts and feelings.

proptermalone.bsky.social•14 hours ago

it’s three short paragraphs, man

mister-sterling.bsky.social•14 hours ago

As an editor, I'd suggest he essentially swap paragraphs 1 and 3. Start with a condemnation of the arrest. Then explain why it's wrong, even if he feels the majority of New Yorkers dislike displays of Palestinian resistance. Then further explain that CU can handle this internally.

proptermalone.bsky.social•14 hours ago

ok, I think you’re right about swapping the order and are otherwise just somewhat dimly flailing for reasons to dislike a statement that substantively does all the things you say you want

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Has Brendan called his local state and federal reps and Senators? Has he called the closest GOP reps and senators to voice displeasure? Parsing mostly fine statements is kind of useless compared to actual action.

mister-sterling.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's the senator's prerogative. But I'd look at the "calorie burn," as in, should he have as many words condemning the arrest as he does wagging the finger at college protesters? It's fine. I think historically, this is the scariest arrest in the US since José Padilla. It's a big crisis.

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Shit, I’d get rid of all of it and instead have him write, “The people who live in our country should not be kidnapped by the government and trafficked to other states.” No reason for any of the other shit Schumer said.

mister-sterling.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Exactly. He put out statements on the Columbia protests this time last year. Repeating dislike of pro-Palestinian expression feeds the GOP narrative that Palestinian lives don't matter.

publius24.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Is it too much to ask for better communications from one of the highest offices in the country?

proptermalone.bsky.social•13 hours ago

no. but you shouldn’t misread them like an idiot, either

publius24.bsky.social•13 hours ago

They buried the point they were trying to make in a little over two paragraphs of qualifying language. It’s incredibly easy to misread.

goldstar971.bsky.social•13 hours ago

if people are taking action in good faith, then nuance and hedged statements sre okay. if people are acting in bad faith and malice, then hedging is to be avoided. This statement should simply be full-throated condemnation. This wording accords some measure of validity to the action.

manycoyote.bsky.social•14 hours ago

"this guy sucks ass and deserves everything horrible that happens to him. I'm glad columbia fucked up the student protestors. uh, also we should deport him legally I guess."

clararaubertas.bsky.social•13 hours ago

this statement does not express a wish that he be deported at all

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

We did! Is it too much to ask that our representatives don’t attack and smear someone they’re supposed to be defending?

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Schumer spent two paragraphs attacking and smearing Khalil before saying he shouldn’t have been taken into custody without charges. How the fuck is that NOT failing the test?

proptermalone.bsky.social•13 hours ago

what do you think the test is here?

lindenchariot.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Intellectual clarity & moral courage.

tifosiotaku.bsky.social•15 hours ago

A lot of people failed the “respect Jews” test, so…

erharder.bsky.social•13 hours ago

He is worthless and weak

sarcasticsmall.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I have no problem believing it when the person in question is a Palestinian. It's been the Dems for many, many months already.

If you're guided by fashion and hate, and not principles and empathy, it doesn't matter what party you belong to. He's ditching trans people as well. For now.

scarfface.bsky.social•13 hours ago

total fucking embarrassment.

THIS is why they lose.

raginpagan.bsky.social•13 hours ago

I swear by all the gods that these Carville democrats won’t see a penny from me and further, I will ACTIVELY AND LOUDLY campaign against you! I’m still not over Schumer or Jeffries not standing up 14.3, and I am NOT alone.

alexis8.bsky.social•13 hours ago

I can.

njiska.com•13 hours ago

Not just failing, completely shitting the bed.

dougom.bsky.social•12 hours ago

As I said earlier today: https://bsky.app/profile/dougom.bsky.social/post/3lk4nd2dwxs26

chester66red.bsky.social•12 hours ago

How hard is it to condemn what happened to him, Chuck needs to go

publius24.bsky.social•14 hours ago

From just a basic comms standpoint: who the fuck wants to read all of that verbosity?

erupton.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Intelligent people.

rwarrin.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Dem leaders have been a failure since Day One of this administration.
This is just *more* confirmation.

Say what you will... Biden beat Trump by ~5% in '20, but you'd never have known that from the way Republicans united and did all they could to disrupt.

ricosuavejd.bsky.social•14 hours ago

All he had to do was post the 3rd paragraph.

joofie57.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Which notably was posted.

gigolojoe.bsky.social•13 hours ago

But diminished immensely by the first two paragraphs, making this worth less than posting nothing at all.

mikegreiling.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I don’t exactly enjoy defending Chuck Schumer, but I don’t see how he “failed” this test here. He is stating that the government has failed to produce evidence of a crime and that this action is otherwise unwarranted. Is that not what we want?

andyvance.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The government isn't alleging a crime. It's claiming Mahmoud Khalil is creating "adverse foreign policy consequences" as determined by the secretary of state. One would think the senate minority leader would know that.

jkfecke.bsky.social•14 hours ago

He does, that's why if you read to the end, he says unless there's some crime that hasn't been alleged that Khalil should be freed.

liberationnow.bsky.social•11 hours ago

That should not have to be said

tubbles.bsky.social•14 hours ago

He spends the first paragraph demeaning and insulting Khalil, insults and demeans him in the second paragraph, and also accuses him of something he very much didn't do in all three paragraphs.

mikegreiling.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Putting aside what you or I might disagree with Schumer about Khalil’s actions, saying “I detest what the man said but will defend his right to say it free of government persecution” is perhaps a more salient argument in favor of free speech than just stating the second half, is it not?

tubbles.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Then he should have said that instead of attacking him and accusing him of being antisemitic based purely on Trump saying he was. Smearing him in all three paragraphs and saying he should have been punished by the university and that it would have been fine if he were just regularly arrested?

tubbles.bsky.social•13 hours ago

That's on its face terrible. He did not frame it as a disagreement, he repeatedly called him antisemitic and said he deserved punishment, he only disagrees with the methods. That's the only way to read what he said honestly, you have to be VERY dishonest to think it was okay.

liberationnow.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Schumer spends two paragraphs criticizing Khalil (without evidence) and *then* says “eh maybe he’s innocent.”

cesarini.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Democrats must always be criticized regardless of their actions. They will become Communist if we just keep doing this.

liberationnow.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Oh shut the fuck up

melbaggers.bsky.social•14 hours ago

This was supposed to be Trump’s false flag moment that triggered the left into massive protests he could use to declare martial law.

goldstar971.bsky.social•13 hours ago

this is literally just jeffries statement.

faeelin.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Schumer says it’s bad in the statement

dhnexon.bsky.social•15 hours ago

I know. These statements lay out the position everyone here wants them to take: even if you dislike the guy and what he stands for, that's not a basis for ICE grabbing him off the street.

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•15 hours ago

It's fine. Although "wrongheaded action" is not the formulation I would use.

billypilgrim65.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I think there is a large part of thi site that wants Dems to wear a hair shirt and flagellate themselves and , I don't think that's useful.

faeelin.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Ask yourself why a Bezos employee is lying about the statement

goldstar971.bsky.social•13 hours ago

no it doesn't. this is a clear attempt to supress speech. asking for evidence is admitting there is the possibility that the actions of the administration have legitimacy.

dhnexon.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Yeah, I figured. You don’t like that he explained the difference between an illegitimate & legitimate basis for detention and threw the gauntlet down. Better he should only message to those of us who know that Trump is a fascist, even though we’re not close to a plurality of even D voters?

dhnexon.bsky.social•13 hours ago

I mean, ceteris paribus, I’d rather he struck a more strident tone. But I also know that my armchair judgments about what specific way of phrasing the press release are a stupid reason to get outraged.

faeelin.bsky.social•15 hours ago

The secret is Garrett’s job as a post columnist is to dunk on democrats. Gotta make the boss happy .

grahamshevlin.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Your framing would have been infinitely preferable to Schumer's introduction where he more or less accuses the guy of Antisemitism, before pivoting to complaining about the illegality.
You get straight to the point, and you should NEVER accept your opponent's framing like Schumer did.

dhnexon.bsky.social•12 hours ago

On balance I probably agree with you on the merits. What I don’t see is any evidence that Schumer is on the wrong side of this issue.

trurl2020.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Not on the wrong side of the issue so much as completely unable to clearly say what the issue is.

rahvin.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Pretty easy to miss amongst all the caveats though. lol

mattweiner19.bsky.social•14 hours ago

yeah. thought a lot of the reaction to Jeffries was unfair, but he followed more or less "*if* he violated campus policies then take care of that with campus rules" with a strong statement that DHS's action is terrible. Schumer seems to stress condemnation of Khalil over DHS's "wrongheadedness."

mattweiner19.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Also if people think Jeffries' statement wasn't forceful enough that's fine. Schumer's *really* isn't forceful enough. (And both should be clearer that even *if* Khalil committed a crime, this is a fascist way to handle it.)

mattweiner19.bsky.social•11 hours ago

stuff like this is radicalizing me into becoming a Jeffries defender. "the preamble is longer than the defense" is flat-out false of Jeffries' statement, which begins "Mahmoud Khalil is a legal permanent resident."

mattweiner19.bsky.social•11 hours ago

for my post two up i should've said 'even if khalil had committed a crime, this would've been a fascist way to handle it,' since it's pretty obvious that he did not

faeelin.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Again Garrett works for Bezos.

zugernat.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I don’t see what’s bad about this statement.

jamesgael.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's the order of the rhetoric. Dems like to accept the negative premise first and end with pushback that reads passive.

If, instead, you lead with "this is wrong" and then caveat you're personal disagreement, people will be far less frustrated.

jamesgael.bsky.social•14 hours ago

bah... "your"

liberationnow.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Or… he could have left it out completely

cackl3cackl3.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Conceding first, basic facts we all already know, passive pushback. It’s absolutely not the way to make a shit sandwich.

jamesgael.bsky.social•13 hours ago

trying to think of a food that fits... burnt lasagna???

cackl3cackl3.bsky.social•1 hour ago

😆 burnt taco lasagna? With raisins?

zugernat.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Yeah I think you’re absolutely right.

historysraven.bsky.social•13 hours ago

What was the point in attacking Khalil? Schumer could’ve said, “Kidnapping a permanent resident and trafficking him out of state is a violation of US law. I oppose this and will do everything to get Khalil released and to his family…” and then been done with it.

jamesgael.bsky.social•12 hours ago

I believe there's value in adding, "*While I disagree with his opinions, I will defend rights* and will do everything to get Khalil released and to his family…” because you can use that to springboard off of, in terms of who truly supports free speech. But alas...

liberationnow.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Nonsense

historysraven.bsky.social•12 hours ago

There was no need for it. We already know Schumer doesn’t like what Khalil, or anyone who opposes Israel, says. He’s been vocal about that for more than a year. He used it simply to attack Khalil and nothing more.

historysraven.bsky.social•12 hours ago

He could’ve made a similar statement as Rep Pressley did here. There was absolutely no need for those first two paragraphs. They give zero added value.

https://bsky.app/profile/pressley.house.gov/post/3lk4p3bz3j22e

zugernat.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I mean I agree, you’re right. I guess I was lowering the bar for Schumer, like oh this is actually less shitty than I expected

pumpactionmusket.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The first two paragraphs paint Khalil as a danger and lend legitimacy to Trump's actions. He chose to do this to a Palestinian for this very reason, he knew the Democratic Party would do this.

themicromentalist.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Too wordy. Weak.

burrowcrat.bsky.social•14 hours ago

AIPAC money is a hell of a drug

d3vcam1a.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The weak Democrats are as much as rats as the modern-day Republicans.

coyote108.bsky.social•14 hours ago

All part of the coup.

https://www.msnbc.com/jonathan-capehart/watch/trump-musk-takeover-is-a-new-style-of-coup-warns-nyu-historian-233884229565

kingpoopybutt.bsky.social•14 hours ago

And again....

https://bsky.app/profile/kingpoopybutt.bsky.social/post/3ljlohsgtms2x

kawotter.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Then you haven't been paying attention to Democratic "leadership" at all for years.

nomoretyranny.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Ukraine supporters are next I guess.

schlotrvlr.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Liberals will manage to blow the 2026 election, is all this post (of yours) really says.

Be critical, sure, but don't misrepresent what WAS said.

27mischief.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Says it all; take note Mr Schumer!

gigolojoe.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Why are you surprised? One of the reasons that the Dems lost the last election was that they proved there was no daylight between them & Republicans on Israel.

They've been against free speech that disparages Israel for decades. This is just them continuing that.

mistakenscientist.bsky.social•9 hours ago

It’s easy to understand. They have an ethical dilemma. Do they do right ethical thing OR do they take the aipac genocide money and throw away their ethics.

winterpancake.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Really? They were silent when those Ferguson activists committed physically impossible suicide

tntflex.bsky.social•15 hours ago

U could & shd have stopped the sentence with failing. I cannot believe how many Dem leaders are FAILING US!

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