the part these venture capital fucks don't get is that no one i've ever met truly makes music or art because it's enjoyable, they do it because they have to, because the only thing worse than making art is not making art - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

cait.bsky.social • 47 days ago

the part these venture capital fucks don't get is that no one i've ever met truly makes music or art because it's enjoyable, they do it because they have to, because the only thing worse than making art is not making art

Reposted from Peretsky

These people are your enemies

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znl.fyi•47 days ago

they literally cannot fathom building anything for any reason outside of money. can't wait for the day the ai bubble will pop just like the dot com one did

kinchman.bsky.social•46 days ago

Spot on. Fulfillment in being an artist is about doing the work.

nickoctopus.bsky.social•47 days ago

its like the whole thing where C-suite types think they're magically able to understand any topic from a few notes so only read summaries of books. It must make them enraged that they can't learn to make music the same way (spoiler: they also don't understand whatever they think they do either)

hurricanehoops.bsky.social•46 days ago

The thing is that you absolutely can make music that way, but it is just soulless, formulaic, and unappealing.

nickoctopus.bsky.social•46 days ago

Someone more perceptive than me pointed out a thread on another site of AI generated music where it was clear a whole bunch of people were posting their own stuff, but no one was liking anyone else's - it was just a place for people who wanted to "create" something, not listen to anything. so sad

nickoctopus.bsky.social•46 days ago

Everyone's "creations" weren't even popular with the other people making that kind of music. It was so weird and empty.

kristenarden.bsky.social•47 days ago

He is laying out an argument in favor of AI being used to create music, and other art forms. Because it takes work and not everyone can do it well. So we need computers to do it for us. It's a disgustingly anti-human world view they have about the future.

theuncannydag.bsky.social•47 days ago

If I don't get my stupid fanart and shitty poems out of me, it'll all fester & make me even more unhinged

milfordthomas.bsky.social•47 days ago

it seems like he’s trying to intentionally misunderstand the creative process on purpose to further his agenda

redfoxglove.bsky.social•47 days ago

The world is divided into those with the impulse to put something new into the world, and those whose only interest is what they can take out.
Those whose occupation is acquiring wealth are by definition the latter.

docseuss.bsky.social•47 days ago

First of all, how dare you be accurate

sofia.meangirls.online•47 days ago

This is probably true for people who do this stuff professionally, but there's a lot of people for whom music making really is a fun activity to do with friends.

Which just means this AI booster horseshit is even more ridiculous. I don't want to tell a computer to do the fun part for me.

garrettwilliams.bsky.social•47 days ago

Yes, this is my experience. Making music genuinely is the most fun thing I know how to do, why would I outsource that to a computer??

uncleknicknack.bsky.social•47 days ago

i just this morning had a client who's an out of work musician and we were talking about this! like i become insane if i dont draw and he becomes insane if he doesnt make music! we are meant to Make Little Things!!!!

katietiedrich.bsky.social•47 days ago

SOMEBODY has to draw this stuff

vealllc.bsky.social•47 days ago

You're exactly right on this one

I never realize I've enjoyed it until I stop

vealllc.bsky.social•47 days ago

It's just do, and do, and do

zeroisanumber.bsky.social•47 days ago

I don't write poetry because I enjoy it. I get a turn of phrase or an image in my head and if I don't express it somehow it festers up there until it becomes an intrusive thought.

lildingis.bsky.social•47 days ago

It’s such a silly argument. Agreed for true artists there is no other option, but for most people it can also just be for fun!

“Making music” isn’t just about producing marketable content - it can also be just grabbing an instrument and jamming with friends.

Like what, everyone hates karaoke!?

emmadramaturgy.bsky.social•47 days ago

Karaoke isn’t making art. It’s enjoying other people’s art. Which is great. But also different thing.

lildingis.bsky.social•47 days ago

I mean, it’s absolutely more active participation than just “enjoying art” but that isn’t my point.

My point is that for most people, the act of making music can be fun and may even be for the express purpose of having fun - not everyone is sweating over their DAWs to find the perfect snare.

emmadramaturgy.bsky.social•47 days ago

I think there is a fundamental disconnect for you in engaging the body to express and “making music” because I understand those things to be very different.

odeecs.bsky.social•47 days ago

An artist feels the compulsion of invention: to take what swirls around and inside them and find some way to compose of that madness matter, to give it voice, to gift it to others.

lots42.bsky.social•46 days ago

There's a whole movie on the topic called 'The Dresser' starring Sir Ian McKellan and Anthony Hopkins. Various people for various reasons, some serious, some not, just have to do some Shakespeare. There's not a moment where they consider NOT doing Shakespeare.

pnutsmama.bsky.social•47 days ago

these are the dudes that join band to go on the amusement park trip at the end of the year and realize that trombone isn’t just a giant kazoo in a cartoon

jennahveer.itch.io•46 days ago

when i started dating my now wife i told her "listen: i NEED like a few hours every day to draw, or play music, or just pace around and think reeeeal hard about writing. if i dont, i will go insane and end up on the news"

citizenx.bsky.social•47 days ago

Agreed, if I don't create things I have a chorus of angry ghosts who lecture and haunt me

blammarie.bsky.social•47 days ago

Yeah if I don’t do art I will explode. That’s accurate.

misterbone.bsky.social•47 days ago

It's not untrue. Making art, music, paintings, stories, takes something out of you, and if you put it out in the world it hurts even if the feedback is just OK.

Artists are outstanding just for being the origin of something.

thelasthillwalker.bsky.social•46 days ago

As a lifelong composer and musician, I have to say its not made any more enjoyable by these b#@tards stealing everything we all sacrificed so much to create. The sheer amount of Time (life) they plunder is impressively terrible.

bowbrick.bsky.social•47 days ago

This whole industry is reinventing creativity, ideas, self-expression, joy in making from the ground up as if it were all a completely new discipline. It's gripping, like watching lab rats navigate a maze or something.

emmadramaturgy.bsky.social•47 days ago

You think I chose theatre as a career?? No, I’m but a meat-sac whose corner of consciousness demands I do this or I suffer. If I was as smart as people tell me I am, I would’ve chosen security. But no, I am a hostage to the art.

thegonzalez.bsky.social•47 days ago

It's a compulsion. If I'm too tired to make art, I get depressed.