The die is cast...
Now we desperately need our 'leaders' to step up to the plate, sadly I'm not really hopeful looking at the current crop (& the number of caretaker administrations)...
You saw "success", I saw the result today. Starmer played a charmer,now Trump thinks he is the most bigly loved leader in Europe.He will parade his special buddy against Europe. Ukraine is the prize to share with Putin and no one seems to care.
Absolutely disgusting behaviour by Vance and Trump trying to publicly bully and harass Zelensky in public like they have done today. Really glad that Zelensky stood his ground and left early
Yes, I thought it's all very well appeasing him but sooner or later he'll do something so bad you have to stop. Thought it would take a bit longer than a day though.
This is how it's going to be with Mr Ego Trump...one step forward, two steps back. Who knows whether or not we can maintain US relations in the face of this stuff, but I'd rather remain an ally of the US than an enemy.
Starmer needs to grow a pair, and tell the orange felon/sex offender to do one, we don't need a draft dodging bullying charlatan like him visiting our nation.
Starmer wisely didn't breach the subject of Ukraine on his visit. Turns out if you woo Trump with flattery and sweetheart trade deals it works better than challenging him publicly. Who knew?
Facts do not matter under Trump’s administration, and a certain % of a pie chart on a spreadsheet, But surely Europe needs to wake up, and yes that includes Britain.. Germany supporting Ukraine, it’s a start. Rare Earth minerals deal should be the Europeans, ifs it’s worth Peace/Billions..
Make no mistake, this was planned and it was for one man's approval and one man's only.
The journo asking "why don't you wear a suit?" And going on to say "it disrespects the office" is in no uncertain terms evidence of this being pre-planned.
Don't link Starmers efforts to help Ukraine in the US, with Trumps behaviour. This media smarmy, know all behaviour is pathetic. Start being serious about this, instead of 'I told you so' conceit, scoring cheap points off the Prime Minister.
In Zelensky’s case Trump
asked the Person being raped to enjoy it.. because he is being paid for being penetrated. This is how he views life.. he can do anything as long he is paying for it. If I were Zelensky, he would not have left the room in one peace.
I knew it would be an ambush for Zelensky. Putin wants Ukraine & he owns Trump so even if they did get to any sort of agreement, it would just be for show. Trump does not keep his word. Like his signature, it means nothing. Just ask Canada. Trump is a traitor & a conman who only cares about himself.
In fact, it has completely trivialised both Starmer’s and Macron’s visits. We have 2 appeasers instead of the one before the outbreak of WW2. As a mother of young boys, I fear for the future. The world order has undergone a seismic shift.
I think that it was the worst, most disgusting behaviour that I have ever seen from a modern day political leader & his deputy. Bullying the leader of a country at war & whose country had been invaded… beyond despicable. Europe needs to make Trump as a big a pariah as Putin. We’re at a crossroads.
But I bet you didn’t expect it to go into car crash mode like this. I have that January 6th moment all over again. It was simply unprecedented, like a set up. Vance was just looking for a way to stir that up. Peter Thiel will be pleased.
Trump was furious that he was so publicly outmanoeuvred by Macron + Starmer, so sadly it was obvious he was going to take his spiteful petulance out on Zelensky.
Thing is, it's difficult for me to see instantly how this is such a threshold. I thought he was a complete douchebag ages ago so perhaps I'm slightly unfazed by each new outrage.
This prick is going to lead us to a full on war.
Trump should be isolated. If he wants to be friends with Putin and Kim Jong Il, let this be the complete list of people who will meet with him.
This is an utterly disgraceful treatment of Zelenski, but make no mistake this was also a slap in the face of the UK, EU/Europe & NATO. Time to show the trumps US the finger & show the rest of the world what Europe is capable of, the UK needs to really show it is part of Europe in all areas.
Trump wanted Zelenskyy to be a cowering little bitch, like everyone else in his orbit. Unsurprisingly, Zelenskyy is out of fucks to give and in no mood to capitulate to Trump.
I didn’t think for a minute there was euphoria. What I hoped for was that along with Macron, Starmer had managed to gain enough time for Europe to get its act together.
Is that how it was received in UK press?! Amazing. From here 🇨🇦 Keir Starmer looked like a pathetic suck-up who hasn't yet understood his turn as target will eventually come. And he missed the opportunity to express any support whatsoever for Canadian sovereignty.
At the hands of Trump Starmer is experiencing his own ‘Theresa May’ moment.
All backslaps and love-ins then five minutes down the road “HE DID WHAT NOW?”
Starmer and the UK should be very wary of trying to dance with Trump. You might end up groped and violated eventually. TheUSA can no longer be trusted and should be handled as such.
It’s like Starmer meeting with Trump never happened
Trump wants the minerals but not to provide security. US diggers would never go back not a country at war , they all know this. He’d wait until it finished before mining the minerals
Every American should be embarrassed by that display of high school bullying antics. Utterly abhorrent. They have actually made Zelenskyy look even stronger.
What success? Seriously! What did that fucking asshole Starmer accomplish? Ignorant fuckweasle wouldn’t even stand up for Canada, the sniveling coward.
I remember when Trump said to Macron something like, 'you will see what will happen "!
#felonTrump has called #Zelensky to a reality show for #MAGACultMorons and his fan base to have a verbal diarrhoea of lies
#Zelensky didn't put his head down and the world has seen again the naked Screaming Felon
I can't imagine how you get by every day. The most awful feeling is being right about these things, and not being able to do anything meaningful to stop it.
I feel sick to my stomach.
Apparently Starmer is a political genius because he drew an envelope out of his pocket with a theatrical flourish,Zelensky could learn a thing or two from him.
The old 'givens' as to how diplomacy works have been blown up by this American regieme. More fool us, more fool Starmer for thinking there is any give and take available - in Trumps world everyone must be supplicant to him, as just proven in the White House earlier today.
If I hadn't been busy I'd have been very tempted to call in to say what Starmer is, a coward.
Trump is using the same tactics as early Hitler almost to the letter. Trans people are being eradicated from federal, military, academic, and public society. Research on them is banned. It's horrific
It just shows the false bromance between Trump , Macron & Starmer was a complete waste of time .Your saying of having your head inside the head of a Tiger comes to mind . Support
Ukraine & Zelensky .
They way Trump treated Zelinski was disgusting . What a complete sell out Trump is .. But anyone following his rise to mediocracy for the last 30 years should have already known he’s just a malcontent and Conman that would sell his 1st born if the price was right. Trump would charge you for breath.
At the time I think most reasonable people would’ve felt like Starmer was doing what needed to be done. After tonight I think we probably all wish we were in a stronger position to tell Trump to go fuck himself instead of feeding his ego.
That state visit should never be allowed to happen. Never. And if it does, I hope the protests will be so overwhelming, that he’ll have to get back on airforce one and fck off home.
It’s actually making me tearful. I hope Americans are ashamed of this monster. Once he has crashed their economy and ruined their worldwide reputation maybe they might open their eyes.
I spoke to my sister about this and I cried. I am not Ukrainian but I hate a bully, and I hate to see someone so deliberately humiliated in public. Fuck comrade trumpski and all his pathetic minions.
I was listening to your podcast when the oval office video came through. Trump wants an EU Ukraine protection force to plunder Ukraine. No doubt he will sell the rare minerals to Russia and the war will resume at a very bloody level. Trump is a traitor to all.
Ukraine were right to walk away. I don't think Starmer did badly, but honestly I would have called his bluff. Even MAGA don't want to be Putin's stooges.
Do you have any insight on why Tories can make such a huge mess and go thru PMs like toilet paper but when Labor gets a chance they are almost instantly discredited?
Can't help but think this is still the fallout from being impeached for the extortionate phone call when Zelensky refused to do his bidding. He never let's go of a grievance hence the list of past sleights being replayed.
I was listening to this mornings show on catch-up and scrolling through social media when I saw what was going on. Seems bizarre to listen to the rest now (I will do later!) Wish you were on in the morning, I could do with the help to process all of this.
The only thing I’m interested in, is how Americans react… are they going to normalise this? In which case we need to be back in the EU and we need an EU army. NOW!
It makes me annoyed at myself for being relieved that Starmer did a good job yesterday. I should thank Zelenskyy for reminding me of what is right and wrong in the current international climate, this should galvanize Europe, lets hope it does
Isn’t it boring being right all the time James? Literally got home and watched your piece on YouTube and seconds later the hideous spectacle of this presser emerged. I am utterly disgusted and enraged. Starmer has a lot of thinking to do.
It’s offensive listening to pathetic Vance goading and attempting to humiliate a literal hero. Only person happy today is Putin. Now it’s essential that voices trump listens to from outside (starmer and macron) go cold without direct criticism but back Zelenskyy with actual statements of support.
They knew what the showdown with Zelenskyy was gonna bring; they let macron and starker have their moment in the sun, to eventually embarrass not only Zelenskyy but the Europe as well! I hate them with a passion!!
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If not, what’s all the kiss-ass diplomacy for?
Now we desperately need our 'leaders' to step up to the plate, sadly I'm not really hopeful looking at the current crop (& the number of caretaker administrations)...
Since you ask.
I would've liked just one day when what he said in the morning was still his opinion by bedtime.
Guess leaving the EU doesn't look that wise right now.
Can I have another go at that referendum?
The russians made me do it.
As they say history has a habit of repeating its self😬
The journo asking "why don't you wear a suit?" And going on to say "it disrespects the office" is in no uncertain terms evidence of this being pre-planned.
It was appalling.
The post war order is dead.
asked the Person being raped to enjoy it.. because he is being paid for being penetrated. This is how he views life.. he can do anything as long he is paying for it. If I were Zelensky, he would not have left the room in one peace.
I feel like that was a planned ambush as well.Vance was primed to pounce there ino
Really hope the UK Govt has the balls to do what absolutely has to be done. Not sure we can ever bear the shame of being associated with Trump.
Trump should be isolated. If he wants to be friends with Putin and Kim Jong Il, let this be the complete list of people who will meet with him.
https://bsky.app/profile/barbarasobel.bsky.social/post/3lj6sqlvymk2h
All backslaps and love-ins then five minutes down the road “HE DID WHAT NOW?”
Trump wants the minerals but not to provide security. US diggers would never go back not a country at war , they all know this. He’d wait until it finished before mining the minerals
At what point is enough enough?
... ok, not exactly, but nearly!
#felonTrump has called #Zelensky to a reality show for #MAGACultMorons and his fan base to have a verbal diarrhoea of lies
#Zelensky didn't put his head down and the world has seen again the naked Screaming Felon
I feel sick to my stomach.
Putin's stooge #Trump totally disgraceful himself today
No British Monarch could leave the Invitation for a State Visit open.
Needs withdrawing now. Tonight.
Trump is using the same tactics as early Hitler almost to the letter. Trans people are being eradicated from federal, military, academic, and public society. Research on them is banned. It's horrific
Ukraine & Zelensky .
Did you?
Should have known better with the tangoed man child and his idiot side kick.
1. KINGS 3:16 - 28
Horrendous behaviour at the White House. Talk about bullies
And what next 🤔
Summit on Sunday 🤔
My heart is bleeding now
Looking to kick a PM who is trying to stand up for Zelensky is poor form
He is being given all the opportunities anyone could want to make the right choice and have the backing of the country to do so right now.