The latter being an extra side helping of bonkers given that Temple and Einstein both have globally renowned Ortho trauma programs. Like truly only Penn would be so staggeringly far up their own asses as to consider those inferior residencies.
Well, that’s part of the fun. No? Everybody is making fun of everyone. Our haematologist is making constantly fun about me and I can’t walk pass a cardiologist without a joke about their inferior profession. It’s a big (and maybe) silly hospital-game since the beginning of time.
You might be right. There is a gray area between toxic work culture at one side and a hypersensitive non functional system on the other side. I am trying to stay in the middle lane.
Gonna give you the benefit of that doubt here: maybe you've just not recognized your privilege and the effect you're having on your hospital's culture. If you accept your argument, you really don't need to edge against the toxic culture in that so-called middle lane,
especially when you're least likely to be harmed by toxicity. That's a damned broad region between not making fun of the vulnerable (or making fun of the privileged so vulnerable catch stays) and a place that's so sensitive it's not functional. Unless you're saying insults are part of the function?
The "burden" of being a white man is that you have an ethical obligation to look at the impact your actions have on others and see if you can use your privilege to advocate for those who might not have the ability to advocate for themselves without fear of reprisal.
The way my colleagues and me are making fun of each other has nothing to do with insulting, because there is no intention to harm the other person. But I understand you. It is always difficult when the “ toxicity” depends on the people involved.
I think you’re right, actually. My thinking about privilege was coined in a way that I always felt privileged to be in that profession, to get the exceptional training I got and I felt privileged to be in a position where I am able to care for patients and being involved in medical education.
This is one of the forms of privilege you have. There are others, and there might even be ways in which you are NOT advantaged. Recognizing how these different things co-exist is how we understand the concept of "intersectionality," where things are not all 1-dimensional "good" or "bad."
you’re an old white dude who is at the top of the white supremacy hierarchy, and you love maintaining the status quo. that’s why you’re upholding toxic behavior. anyways, you’re not worth my time because you’re not smart enough to reflect on any of this, so stop fucking talking to me.
When you start thinking one profession or specialty is more or less important than yours, you open the door for jealousy, hate, and rankings where it doesn't belong. This impedes progress to a point where we go backwards, like we are now.
That was supposed to be a joke….of course i don’t consider any specialty (or human being) as inferior. I put it deliberately there as a joke.
The whole point of banter is that every joke is wrapped in mutual respect.
No, that isn't "Respect." That is how power structures are maintained. You get to say "Can't you take a joke?" when people are hurt, and blame them.
Do you really think everyone gets to make those jokes? Maybe people laugh because you have power, not because you are funny.
bro what do you mean "of course" you don't? Like there aren't millions of people who do view some kinds of people as inferior, at all levels of society? Like there aren't millions of people who "joke" about it because they actually mean it? "Of course" like how would anyone know that?
It's the purity culture game where you lose points by admitting fault or error and win points by shaming and humiliating other people for any sign of weakness.
It's deeply institutionalised and incredibly toxic.
I think you are right, there is certainly a substantial toxicity potential. Partly because I was always privileged (or lacking the sensors to feel humiliated) or because I was surrounded by real good people, I never experienced the dark side of the institutionalised hospital banter.
The people who find it possible to endure these systems often find incentives to assume that those who cannot endure them must be less deserving. But it is much more often that they are less privileged.
It is a big factor in many structural systemic problems.
Naw, man, it’s really antisocial and weird behavior, and for someone who just went out of their way to publicly agree with the “doctors are better than other people” rant you should really hold yourself to a higher standard, no? Try to at least maintain narrative consistency, bub
Interesting, I didn’t read it like that. I had the impression he/she wanted to stress the fact that doctors are a privileged group of people and therefore supposed to feel more gratitude towards the education being offered.
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The whole point of banter is that every joke is wrapped in mutual respect.
Do you really think everyone gets to make those jokes? Maybe people laugh because you have power, not because you are funny.
It's deeply institutionalised and incredibly toxic.
It is a big factor in many structural systemic problems.