Mike here has laid out some of the important history that led us to this place, in which self-described "libertarians" who used to claim they believed in freedom, shifted to become authoritarians hell-bent on seizing power and destroying the US from the inside. I may have more to say on this soon. - ThreadSky

mmasnick.bsky.social • 20 days ago

Mike here has laid out some of the important history that led us to this place, in which self-described "libertarians" who used to claim they believed in freedom, shifted to become authoritarians hell-bent on seizing power and destroying the US from the inside.

I may have more to say on this soon.

Reposted from Mike Brock 🇺🇸

This has been my most ambitious piece of writing so far. It's long. And I will be working on a much shorter version for a wider audience. But I also don't want to lose sight of the deep truths lurking around us. So, here is The Plot Against America. www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/the-plot-a...

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minorgrey.bsky.social•20 days ago

I've been watching this unfold online since the iraq war. Pretty much gave up when the Hoppe wing of the libertarian base took over.

drjamesjteeth.bsky.social•20 days ago

I’ll read it at some point, but most libertarians were okay with the owners of property acting as dictators. The Golden Rule: “he who has the gold makes the rules.” Capital is king. Libertarianism would always lead to monopolies in business and power based on capital.

untravel.bsky.social•20 days ago

'Freedom without equality is simply power.'

twesq.bsky.social•20 days ago

Is it that complicated, Mike? A bunch of racist apartheid South Africans & their buddies made enough money to isolate themselves from everyday society, started doing a lot of drugs, then a combination of regulatory agencies cracking down & shitposters on twitter directly mocking them drove them nuts

twesq.bsky.social•20 days ago

I mean, these people are on enough ketamine to actually tranquilize a horse, they pay millions of dollars a year for security so they never interact with normal people, and they grew up gamers. They’re cognitively playing Civilization in their heads because no one has told them no in over a decade.

mmasnick.bsky.social•20 days ago

Responding with "is it that complicated" is a bit aggressive when I never said it was complicated.

twesq.bsky.social•20 days ago

Apologies for coming in hot, appreciate all you do

eryq.bsky.social•20 days ago

The fact that so many of them hate "age of consent" laws tells you everything you need to know about what they'd do if given power over others.

iquanyin3.bsky.social•20 days ago

““I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” freedom for whom, thiel? and define your terms.

iquanyin3.bsky.social•20 days ago

“For decades, libertarian thinkers had argued that free markets, left unrestrained, would naturally outperform any system of government.” so things not needing to make a profit will do better than things that do need to? right there you know he’s wrong. anywho, back to reading it.

inclusi.us•19 days ago

Libertarianism has always been a morally bankrupt political philosophy. In the Libertarian worldview, liberty is the freedom to live without consequences. It not only enables but ennobles the exploitation of other people and resources as the ultimate expression of freedom.

wiredog.bsky.social•20 days ago

I always figured that 99% of “libertarians “ were that way. I always called the “glibertarians”.

dailygrail.com•20 days ago

Worth noting that @gilduran.com has been researching, writing, and warning everyone about this for a long while now. He even has a website/newsletter that covers this beat exclusively called 'The Nerd Reich'.

https://www.thenerdreich.com/

dailygrail.com•20 days ago

I also wrote about it before the election, coming to the topic by following threads after reading Max Chafkin's biography of Peter Thiel:

https://www.dailygrail.com/2024/10/the-technocratic-conspiracy-how-tech-tycoons-plan-to-disrupt-democracy-and-become-the-new-rulers-of-the-world/

skouria.bsky.social•20 days ago

Sell Tesla. Is it in your retirement account? Sell. That. Shit.

bikeengineer.bsky.social•20 days ago

📌

teedublavee.bsky.social•20 days ago

juniorbonner.bsky.social•20 days ago

Recommend this too https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001324r

cattress511.bsky.social•20 days ago

This was really good, I heard that name Yarvin a lot recently & I wasn't familiar with him.
I need more poster board & string please

welcome2absurdia.bsky.social•20 days ago

📌

elforesto.coolestfamilyever.com•20 days ago

What happened is that the people obsessed with "the marketplace of ideas" found that there weren't any buyers and they decided burning everything to the ground to force everyone into their version of "freedom" was the only way to make it happen.

itoldyouso13.bsky.social•20 days ago

🗽👀

reselsnark.bsky.social•20 days ago

The role the failure of cryptocurrency to attain widespread use has had in this is one that could bear further examination.

When they failed to achieve their ends, to what degree did crypto fanatics radicalise themselves that democracy had to go to prove they were right all along?

jefg.bsky.social•20 days ago

The https://Reason.com comments are telling. Under every article criticizing Trump for trampling rights are dozens of comments explaining why it's okay when _we_ do it but not okay when _they_ do it.

cattress511.bsky.social•20 days ago

The comments on Reason is what turned me off of Libertarianism, & my daughter's middle name is Liberty.

emptyjetseatbribes.bsky.social•20 days ago

it turns out a media rolling over and celebrating bullshit apps and scumbags and no one ever saying no might have been bad

natanael.bsky.social•20 days ago

A significant fraction of self labeled libertarians only want freedom for themselves

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