I don’t like him either & his Brexit arguments are selfish. These are the basics we all knew’d happen, convinced we would get a massive trade deal with the US, as we’re the 51 state! We’d go on holiday to the US…
It turns out the US wanted us BECAUSE we belonged to the EU; to be their eyes & ears
Even Fartage admitted recently that Brexit wasn’t as good as it should have been and we should be ‘more friendly’ towards the EU. Whatever that means in his peabrain considering they despised him as an MEP for his laddish, bigoted attitude.
It’s grimly amusing to read Clarkson say he generally finds it easy to get along with people he disagrees with “unlike everyone on social media” and the comments, where everyone is slagging off Clarkson because they disagree with him on other stuff
Also grimly amusing that it is those on the Corbynite Left who’re most likely to caveat their approval of the anti-Brexit sentiment in the article with ritual “Of course he’s ghastly” comments, conveniently forgetting that Corbyn and Co were quite keen on Brexit, seeing the EU as a capitalist plot…
I’m sick of seeing people reposting this.
Let’s not forget all the shit he’s posted in the past and his disgraceful racist, misogynistic views and the fact he’s trying to avoid paying tax on his ‘farm’.
He’s deflecting - and successfully by the looks of it!
I don't think it's a good summary just because he's criticising Brexit etc. I think it's a pathetic piece of writing. One that is fundamentally built upon an exceptionalism and a superiority complex that in his opinion wasn't respected. Plus it's very obvious his gripe are only on his border issues.
Do I:
A. Agree he's correct even though he's a massive bellend and saying it for his usual narrow minded tory bastard moneygrubbing reasons?
B. Start supporting Brexit because he's such a massive bellend that I must have been wrong about Brexit because, well, it's that prick, Clarkson?
Jokes about getting a dinghy across at least he'd get a biscuit and maybe a house out of it. Given the options of waiting with his crew or getting a flight he leaves. What a champion.
Brexit is bad for everyone including the privileged. Even Clarkson the shit smear of a human being.
Pale, male, stale public reactionaries' attitudes are probably responsible for a lot of their fans voting for Brexit anyway, so they might as well have voted for Brexit themselves.
Just look how much Piers Morgan defended the result of the vote rather than call it out for what it was.
To be absolutely fair to Clarkson (and likewise I can't stand the man) he did vote Remain as well. I guess you need to take allies where you find them.
I find everything about him revolting and utterly out dated. The comment about getting along with everyone even though he wrote about throwing excrement at Meghan Markle. The comment about Nigerians was uncalled for. Even if he is a remainer, his ‘brand’ is basically to snub all things European.
I think most people want us to be closer to the EU, including Article 49.
And that is because it will improve the lives of many.
Sorry to be vulgar to some of those commenting but that is best done by bringing together many shared interests, not disagreeing on one thing due to views on another.
The thing is Farage, Gove and Johnson never expected Brexit to happen. This was all a cunning plan for Cameron to take a close-ish referendum vote back to Brussels to demand the concessions they had rejected. Did you see Gove and Johnson the morning after, did they look like victors to you?
None expected it to happen, out of those three I think Farage was the only one who wanted it. For Gove and Johnson it was purely political posturing. The dogs that caught the car.
I don't think even Farage did, he's a grifter. The Antii-EU gig was his earner. Wasn't it curious how he threw the towel in early that night and yapped about how the good fight would continue etc.
Farage has always been a grifter who looks for a lucrative niche. In the case of UKIP, which was without doubt a Tory construct designed to take votes from Labour, his was the bash Europe role. And he was doing very well out of it and, IMO, had no intention of getting off that gravy train..
and he was thoroughly enjoying himself playing the arsehole in Brussels and raking in all those lovely expenses. Brexit put and end to that and he subsequently drifted around until he hit on the Reform idea. I doubt even now he has any long term plan, just pile it in while it lasts.
Partly. Basically it's a publicity piece from a transactional celebrity who's whinging because they had to face a personal inconvenience due to brexit. But yes, the broad theme is correct.
Every now and again, someone whose core beliefs are the antithesis of yours says something you agree with, and it’s totally blindsiding. To find that I agree with Jeremy Clarkson , even for five minutes, is quite something. It means I have to revise how I think about him. Slightly. 😳
hilarious. all this had nothing to do with leaving the EU. it had everything to do with the "we need to #brexit in the most extreme way possible" negotiating of Johnson and his cronies. they wanted, and got, the most extreme boundary they could imagine.
it was certainly precipitated by the original "advisory vote". the complete tearing down of the relationship with the EEA/SM/CU was a dogmatic decision by the Tories. nobody was asked about that, it was just the Tories again playing to its basest base. we're living with that.
If we'd stayed in the Single Market plus Customs Union we really would have been a rule-taker without any democratic say in the laws we had to obey.
All we'd have achieved by leaving would have been to give up our place at the top table & say on the rules.
Any compromise would be accused of that
that's an argument i never really get involved in. most everyone, including china, but perhaps not NK, are bound by 1000's of treaties and organisations around the world. UN, ICJ, WMO, and just for fun the "Warsaw Insurance Mechanism".
forgetting "national pride" as a decision point of being a member of the "top table" only leaving the EU. well, that happened anyway. the UK gave up a dominant position in the biggest supranational organisation to have ever existed. we were a huge fish among huge fish. all gone now. for good.
The Big Secret: What on earth is KS frightened of? He has a large parliamentary majority & polls show the majority of voters accept Brexit is still harming us. He can honestly state his only responsible course is to pursue the strongest possible ties to the EU, even up to the opportunity to rejoin.
Yep that's about it. Labour can't rejoin the EU or even the EEA without agreeing to accept free movement. Even if they managed to secure restrictions on FM, the right-wing media would ignore those and go for the jugular. Labour being utter cowards with the media, are terrified of this.
Well said. I’m really disappointed about their stance particularly on FOM for the young. I think many hoped they would soften once in No 10. I can see the Right going full circle and starting to campaign for greater ties again… just wait.
A few issues for Labour with a EU Youth Mobility deal;
- it really needs to be capped.
- fewer benefits for regions that are more pro-Farage.
- good card to play later when negotiating other things like fish, vets or qualifications.
Totally agree. But when is a Govt ever going to be in a stronger position to say "We KNOW what's right, an election is years away, do your worst," to the press, Forage, etc? Tories had the face to do that, over and over, and they were either wrong, lying, or both!
It really is standard of Labour though. The Tories when they get into power go for it from day 1 trying, and succeeding, to shape the country to their demented will. Labour creeps along with all the timidity of a small kitten in a wolf enclosure, scampering for cover at the first growl.
I’m not excusing the lack of action, but in the main, no matter what the Tories did, the press supported them or at least tried to deflect for them. It’s a lot easier when you have that.
But given so many in polls say they want to revisit Brexit, you do have to wonder what’ll take!
We don't want a Reform government, I guess. Some of the interpretations from the recent polling are a bit fanciful, especially given things like the big red buses and the distribution of Farage support wrt FPTP.
Strongest possible ties without "reversing Brexit" is not far from what we have now.
I can't imagine any case for the parent ignoring the matter and letting the kid eat the lot. Not least because guess who'd have to clean up the mess. Parent could see it coming... we could see the B mess coming, and it's no consolation knowing we were right.
I wish I did, but kids and bags of sweets is not hunger, it's sugar craving. Probably head-in-the-sand of me, but I felt 90%+ of Leavers hadn't ever even considered the subject of control till Bozo, Forage and the Mail told them they were being ignored.
Hmm... "without reversing Brexit."...
Kid wants huge bag of sweets.
Parent explains it would be bad for him, he'd eat the lot & be sick.
Next day out for a walk, irresponsible uncle buys kid the sweets. On their return, parent realises, sees kid start downing the lot. What should a good parent do?
I don’t like him & agree about his leave tendencies, but tbf I recall him telling Cameron that leaving the EU would be a mistake before it even really all took off. I’m not sure he was even ‘farming’ then (edit: he bought farm in 2008 but it was tenanted until 2019).
He's a fucking fat liar. Everyone of his don't do on the lists, he's written disparaging articles about or spoke about in terribly negative ways. Leopards, or grifters pretending they're farmers to avoid tax, don't change their spots.
That sort of thing is that which riles a number of those that voted Brexit. They see it as middle class people upset at them not having freedoms in Europe.
The question here is, WHAT are you genuinely upset about with Brexit? Because if it's your FOM alone, then STOP using the economy for your
It shows you don't genuinely care about the genuine damage Brexit has done. You only care about getting your own end in where it serves your life's financial status.
Brexit has RUINED lives of genuine workers. The futures of young people from struggling families! THAT'S BREXIT!
Come back to defend my attitude the other day because I don't use people that are scum just because all of a sudden they say something that aligns with something important to me. A scumbag remains a scumbag.
As he says, you don’t have to be joined at the hip politically to get along. He’s not wrong about Brexit though, we’ve all lost out and the hypocrisy of those who still insist it’s brilliant is breathtaking.
Since when do you have to like the people that you agree with? I can't stand this sanctimonious nonsense, we need to stop this.
If Johnson had published the remain article rather than the leave one, I bet people would have quickly forgotten what a prick he was and cheered him to the rafters.
You're right, it was The Sun and the Times. I think helping to sell copies of the most widely read pro-Brexit newspaper probably swung more votes for Brexit than this video and The Times did for Remain.
I don’t care if he’s finally woken up to the fact that Brexit is bollocks. He’s an odious piece of shit that does not deserve column space or attention.
Hm. I strongly disagree with him on 1 thing. I don't get so cross when I meet true Brexiteers, who believed in the project from the start and still believe in it. Many of them get their news from the tabloids, live in a bubble being spoon fed lies, what can you expect from them? I pity them.
No, I save my anger, and a red hot anger it is, for those who knew Brexit was a folly and a crime from the start, but who have come to support & defend Brexit as they think that's best for their own personal interest and career even if it is not in the country's best interest.
I am talking about people who once passionately defended Freedom of Movement, but now they are in power and can change things falsely claim even a Youth Mobility Scheme is FoM, and FoM is not coming back for as long as they are alive!
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I am talking about people who once passionately defended people having a say on Brexit through a 2nd referendum, but now they are in power and can change things claim Brexit is settled and people aren't even allowed a say on what Brexit should look like (in the SM but out of the EU).
I am talking about people who once gave passionate speeches about Brexit being a con, a swindle, a trick, a fraud, but now claim this con, this swindle, this trick, this fraud is settled, and just have to accept living with it as best as we can.
THOSE people I despise with a passion so hot it makes my blood pressure reach dangerous heights. Their refusal to openly acknowledge & discuss the lies and damage of Brexit means those who spoke those lies and are responsible for the damage to this country are not held to account.
Only stating what anyone who lived before we joined the EU or did their research before voting knew, he’s a bit late to the party, perhaps desperate for popularity
Putting it mildly, I hate the man.
His utterances have been a contribution to the rise of lad culture & right-wing populism.
I like what he says about the consequences of Brexit BUT he still manages to insert his snide, cheap digs.
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It turns out the US wanted us BECAUSE we belonged to the EU; to be their eyes & ears
Let’s not forget all the shit he’s posted in the past and his disgraceful racist, misogynistic views and the fact he’s trying to avoid paying tax on his ‘farm’.
He’s deflecting - and successfully by the looks of it!
He could join Gary, then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCqfr91vFws
A. Agree he's correct even though he's a massive bellend and saying it for his usual narrow minded tory bastard moneygrubbing reasons?
B. Start supporting Brexit because he's such a massive bellend that I must have been wrong about Brexit because, well, it's that prick, Clarkson?
Hmmmm.
I do agree with the first column however
Brexit is bad for everyone including the privileged. Even Clarkson the shit smear of a human being.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005
His aim now, through farmers protests, is to defend the handing down of wealth within a select group.
Just look how much Piers Morgan defended the result of the vote rather than call it out for what it was.
And that is because it will improve the lives of many.
Sorry to be vulgar to some of those commenting but that is best done by bringing together many shared interests, not disagreeing on one thing due to views on another.
At least he bothered to speak up. Many don’t.
the EU stood by in stark wonder.
Anything else is Lexiter wishful thinking.
All we'd have achieved by leaving would have been to give up our place at the top table & say on the rules.
Any compromise would be accused of that
- it really needs to be capped.
- fewer benefits for regions that are more pro-Farage.
- good card to play later when negotiating other things like fish, vets or qualifications.
But given so many in polls say they want to revisit Brexit, you do have to wonder what’ll take!
Strongest possible ties without "reversing Brexit" is not far from what we have now.
The sweets is Brexit.
Your lack of strategy for addressing the kid's hunger is what is keeping the whole sweets thing in play.
Do you see what I mean?
After 9 years why do you guys stick with your dogma? Oh, it's because you never knew there was a problem? You think it's a media invention?
Kid wants huge bag of sweets.
Parent explains it would be bad for him, he'd eat the lot & be sick.
Next day out for a walk, irresponsible uncle buys kid the sweets. On their return, parent realises, sees kid start downing the lot. What should a good parent do?
On the contrary... It's an example of whining duet a state off believed exceptionalism because one is where they're from.
He's simply moaning about border controls post Brexit.
The question here is, WHAT are you genuinely upset about with Brexit? Because if it's your FOM alone, then STOP using the economy for your
It shows you don't genuinely care about the genuine damage Brexit has done. You only care about getting your own end in where it serves your life's financial status.
Brexit has RUINED lives of genuine workers. The futures of young people from struggling families! THAT'S BREXIT!
Never do it!
Tax dodging wanker!
We need to pick our battles - and whilst our enemy's enemy is not necessarily our friend our disagreements with Clarkson can wait for another day.
If Johnson had published the remain article rather than the leave one, I bet people would have quickly forgotten what a prick he was and cheered him to the rafters.
He's still a dreadful parasite
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His utterances have been a contribution to the rise of lad culture & right-wing populism.
I like what he says about the consequences of Brexit BUT he still manages to insert his snide, cheap digs.
https://youtu.be/DeZHWCQrC2Q?si=uyUF1fiQKahtZZwq
Instead they focused on numbers. 🤷♂️