So true. Parents forced me in to a private school called Annapolis Area Christian School. I know the Bible better than most. We had the old testament class, New Testament class and even worship. I realized that it was a hoax after year oneA document written by oligarchs with pure fiction to oppress
by the age of 11 I had read everything in our public library that they allowed me to. When they allowed me to check out of the adult section the first two sections they allowed was theology and history. I read the Bible,the Koran, Confucius letters, Buddhist papers. ALL Mostly population control.
Once I learned of the Council of Nicea in 325AD, I was much more interested in what they left out of future Bibles.
The Book of Enoch was very interesting to say the least. The roots of Gnosticism also serve intriguing insights into early Christianity. I choose to be spiritual but not religious.
I’ve read it twice, studied it, and I’m not an atheist. I’m agnostic. Nothing comes from nothing. But I sure wish the religios would read the damned thing!
or a unitarian and ready to debate it point by point and compare it with other world religions. Oh. and you have already read several "versions", the apocrypha and the most up to date translations of the gnostic gospels.....
FACTS! I went to private Christian school and I would question EVERYTHING because the Bible is contradicting and full of evil and I would get kicked out of class every day!
Or be a history major and learn about indulgences. I was in Jamaica last week and a server looked at one of my tattoos and said "you don't love Jesus". I said no, I'm an atheist and he stared at me with an utter lack of comprehension. He was looking at an Om design. I was also not comprehending.
Or don’t buy a bible and choose love, kindness, compassion, acceptance, and reaching out to help those in need. Walk the walk, don’t just talk the talk.
I ❤️-ed the joke because it's a good one, but it expresses the sadly typical narrow view of most atheists. There are so many more scriptures than the Bible. That's just the one that made you mad. More than one god does not exist. And more than one god does.
Buy a Bible, hold it upside down, sell or buy a butchered version of it, not understand one single word of it, break the 10 Commandments contained in it daily, and use its teachings to wipe your ass with it, makes you a Trump cult follower.
LOL! How insulting to Christians. I have read the entire Bible from cover to cover several times. I studied biblical languages. No atheist would waste his/her time reading our Bible. Why do people go out of their way to insult 1 religion?
The evangelicals cherrypick the bible and they lie and ignore science fact and have used the bible (in my view a book of fiction) and the really dumb christians aka evangelicals to help get trump elected so they could push the lies in the bible..shame on them.
You are entitled to YOUR opinion Andrew. I respect your opinion but of course I don't believe our Bible is a book of fiction. Many Christians believe history in the Bible starts with Abraham. I respect Christians who disagree with me as long as they are NOT trump supporters.
The age old question. I respect that. I have had 3 powerful spiritual experiences with Jesus and the Spirit. All when I was a young man. It propelled my faith to older age. I am more convinced now. I have seen things that only faith can provide. This is NO evidence to unbelievers. I get that
I know that you sincerely believe your three experiences were supernatural Paul, but I am willing to bet that non-religious people have had similar experiences, but know that the experiences originate and are totally contained within their own minds.
I think if its doing more harm than good it cant be good but im not here to change your mind and you wont change mine but as long as we can stand together from opposite ends of the earth to oppose the orange jesus and judas.
Quaran, bible, tora..its the god of abraham and the lies and contradictions and cruelty that we all know is moraly wrong...we dont need to read a bible or quran to know this.
Fear and morality from religion were used to keep the peasants calm and obedient. The middle class has mostly jettisoned the beliefs. With 24/7 news, it’s more obvious that there are psychopaths among us and in charge. I’m not defending religion, but society needs guidance and role models.
In certain past times and places, thou shalt not kill, commit adultery, bear false witness (lie), and a few others were useful for teaching people how to behave in society. Most of the rest of it was highly suspect and likely did some harm. Fortunately most of us are beyond that at this point.
The idea that Catholics don't read the Bible is a weird one. Y'all have heard of Thomas Aquinas, right, like one of the major keystones in western literary theory?
Atheist here, read it twice.
Once because my religious school required it for graduation and the second time was out of curiosity as to confirm incredulously the stuff written in there.
got my knuckles cracked for bringing a new testament to catholic sunday school - nun screeched in my face, "we don't read the bible here"
I looked at the crucifix on the wall and with all the seriousness of a grade 6 student asked, "isn't that the guy this book is about?"
my last day there
I have actually told a few very religious some of the horrible, disgusting, violent stories in their bible. I tell them many of the stories are bastardized mythology. At first they don’t believe me. 🙄
Don't worry, I've read it for everybody so stand back and standby and get ready for the final seven. Nobody survives the heritage foundation does not have a happy ending in project 2025.
Wrong! I’ve read the entire Bible, twice, I am evangelical Lutheran driven. The thing is, you have to know how to read it. You have to know what is fact and what is metaphorical. Involves a bit of thinking, so might not be everyone’s cup of tea
I was not raised religious because my parents taught me right from wrong! They said you don’t need a church or synagogue or anywhere else to tell you what to think! ✌️
My very strict religious upbringing tried to teach that anyone & anything outside of religion was intrinsically evil. It took years to shake that off even though my scepticism started in my teens. Well done, you.
Well said. In fact, it concerns me that so many people need the fear of a God's wrath to do the right thing. I seem to be able to be a good person without the threats of an eternity in hell 🤷♀️
Can I modestly recommend 'By The Book - What does the Bible really say' (Amazon) Reviews the dos & don'ts of Bible rules. (Evangelicals may not be fans)
Ignatz, almost no one reads the entire thing; they just go by what they hear about it, or a few select sections & so believe whatever they're told. That's how propaganda works. Nobody bothers to fact check.
If they do READ IT ALL & RESEARCH, they realize there's a lot of nonsense & fake news in it.
This is exactly my journey.
I was a good little catholic boy.
Perfect attendance at catechism.
Knew all the apostles by name.
And then I sat down and read the Bible cover to cover and became an atheist almost instantly.
The Bible really is nuts.
How any modern adult could swallow that crap is crazy.
I'm really surprised at how many Christians haven't read that book. That book was forced on me and i can quote that book to them and they have not clue!
Interesting read again in my older years. Not many actually live by the word of God!
Their “bibles” are just objects to defend the indefensible: props as stated. But I’ll go further—all evil deeds are acceptable if claiming their bible is perfect—saying and acting is damn-near IDOLATRY. Therefore their religion is SIN—it is a HATE/SELF-HATE feedback loop. Damn-it-to-hell.
Read the bible cover to cover (okay, so I skipped a couple pages of "begets") when I was 15. It changed everything. I'm now a very spiritual person but completely anti-religion. The Apache call "God", Usen, the Great Mystery. Religion tells you what "God" wants, needs, demands... all human based.
Truth! Last summer my grandson(15) read the Bible front to back. He's and honor society student. His friend wanted him to come to his church. He pretty much said hell no! He can tell you anything in that book. Said was bullshit. 💙✌️
Then again, we're talking america, and over there both Hardcore Evangelist and 40k-tier Atheists say besically the same shit, which boils down to "im right, you're wrong, and if you disagree you will suffer"
Like no. thats not how the concept of an afterlife works.
Like if you think that the only way people do right things is if you are going to otherwise get excessively punished OR that anyone that believes in anything is on the same intellectual level as a kid thinking they are a dragon- Like thats just two sides of the same coin. You understand that right?
I was raised on it; Evangelical Southern Baptist style. My whole family was. Several of my cousins and I are most definitely not Christian now. Mostly Pagans 😆
I gave up Catholicism decades ago, and good riddance.
But I know my Bible cover to cover -- mostly because I was raised Catholic. Believe me, Roman Catholics read their Bible. I can't account for what they do with it from there. But they read it.
No. If you think that a loose collection of gases and dust created intelligent life and ecosystems on Earth by simply random events in time, you're stupid. That's like saying every conception leading to a live birth happens without a fertilized egg
I love the Bible, it is the longest lasting soap opera, and it has everythin: war, sex, intrigue, betrayals, fantasy, fiction, mythology, recipes, fashion, moral advice right along divine wrath... what's not to like?
If you pray for something in the correct way, you get it. 100% true. But it’s extremely difficult to do. And prayer in general is to improve spirituality - which is what it is really all about
Praying to dead people is pointless. They are dead. Sad but true
I am Catholic. I read it which is why I know these fucks don’t follow Jesus. In confession my priest said he was just as angry as me at what’s happening. He said all we can do is keep standing up. Biden was a good Catholic as well. PS. I cuss and am in confession a lot 😂
No, I can't. Neither can you. If someone asks you for directions to somewhere you don't know, is it better to say "I don't know" or to make something up? "I don't know" is at least honest.
Raised a Catholic, all Catholic grade school (my religion teacher ended up working as a secretary at the Vatican), high school, and college. Like all Catholics, I read the Catholic bible (big fan of the Beatitudes). Now, I'm a witch.
Raised catholic, converted to baptist and now free. 100% agree.
A general education also helps. And that is why the first thing republicans attacked was education.
My wife has a bible. I think that the last time that we opened it was to put some 4 leafs clover to dry around 45 years ago. I wonder if they are dried by now.
I'd put in an agnostic. I believe there's something, just not what these boneheads reference with more ironic hypocrisy than is even remotely amusing. When science can't explain something, it becomes religion.
When science explains it, the religion dies and the corpse is call mythology. Judea-Christianity is where we backed ourselves into a corner. Can't prove afterlife, so we got stuck with this shit. Can't wait until it's mythology.
But buy a Bible, read it, then apply a little thought to it .
Put it into historical context.
Dont eat pork or seafood…God isn’t going to tell them about Salmonella, they are as likely to start worshipping it as avoid it, so “it’s bad” is enough.
Also, Jesus was a chill hippy…which is great.
In my meditation today, the words of Seneca, "The rational soul is stronger than any kind of fortune." My reflections included wondering what humanity may have accomplished if we had not come up with this single most frightening idea, called it "gods" and clipped our wings through every generation.
Theism is dogmatic. If you ever analyze or reason any religious book, including the bible you are automatically breaking one of the biggest rules of the religion and betraying the entire concept of theism. and atheism is misused to mean "any one person who isn't devoted to theism"
Buy a Bible and use it to help you become a better human being and you will be an exception to its normal readership. As an agnostic I don’t need a god to make me kind, caring or moral, but I do appreciate people who use religion to help others.
So much what's in that Bible is happening to us right f****** now though bruh I don't believe same way others do but this s*** is absolutely biblical and those idiots are actually playing out their own destiny I think it's called the Cassandra principle
Better to live with faith and hope than to be hopeless in this cruel existence of a world. The Bible is real if you believe. Read with the spiritual mind with help from the Holy Ghost. The carnal (fleshy) mind will never understand because it’s not meant for the stubborn educated mind
And take away from it that if you simply ignore the Old Testament, what remains is mostly a set of fables and parables that if followed, could be considered a path to a very caring and moral life. One way of many.
Has anyone tried to have AI re-write the Bible before? Surely.
Or you can read it and understand why MLK fought for Civil Rights. Or how the 19th century reforms (Abolition, prison reform, mental health reform) were solidly based on the 2nd Great Awakening. Call out hypocrisy, sure. But include your own. This is just lazy.
Love it, I was raised in the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church, my father was a Catholic my mother was Protestant neither one of them went to church but felt that we had to make our own decisions, I'm an atheist.
I agree with this sentiment. I’ve never read it in its entirety. I’ve heard enough. Still a Christian in my heart. Jesus got it right, but so much of the story has been perverted to suit the needs of men that, had I not physically felt being “saved,”
I would probably be an atheist.
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I am agnostic. I’m fairly certain there has to be something MUCH larger than us..out there…now, or at some time in the grander scheme of things.
But talking snakes in a severely edited book written by 47 people in 1611, leaves me sceptical of the accuracy it’s contents.
Had some serious doubts about it when in comprehensive school so read the thing without instruction.
Hey presto, atheist in my teens.
The Book of Enoch was very interesting to say the least. The roots of Gnosticism also serve intriguing insights into early Christianity. I choose to be spiritual but not religious.
Feed the Hungry,
Comfort the hurting,
Clothe the naked,
Visit the imprisoned, both the physically and the mentally imprisoned
And die trying.
I concur.
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.”
Do the Koran now
It has only even been good for one thing…gaining and keeping power over the gullible.
Once because my religious school required it for graduation and the second time was out of curiosity as to confirm incredulously the stuff written in there.
I looked at the crucifix on the wall and with all the seriousness of a grade 6 student asked, "isn't that the guy this book is about?"
my last day there
I was raised VERY religious and that is why I don’t follow any religion now.
I don’t need a Priest, Nun, Reverend, Pastor, Preacher, Imam or Rabbi,
to teach me what is right or wrong, good or bad.
I have eyes and a brain, I don’t need any religion to teach me what is right.
If they do READ IT ALL & RESEARCH, they realize there's a lot of nonsense & fake news in it.
I was a good little catholic boy.
Perfect attendance at catechism.
Knew all the apostles by name.
And then I sat down and read the Bible cover to cover and became an atheist almost instantly.
The Bible really is nuts.
How any modern adult could swallow that crap is crazy.
Magic stones and glasses.
Golden plates that no one ever saw.
"Dumb, dedumb. Dumb dumb dumb."
As South Park depicted.
Because ‘morons’ was too on the nose.
I like Aesops Fables a lot better.
Interesting read again in my older years. Not many actually live by the word of God!
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And the GOLD PROP version sold out.
MAGA religion is performative or masking. Evilness, regardless.
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Err, Katty
Pu-leeez
Yes.
It is a cult.
You raised him well!
This is 100% verified.
Then again, we're talking america, and over there both Hardcore Evangelist and 40k-tier Atheists say besically the same shit, which boils down to "im right, you're wrong, and if you disagree you will suffer"
Like no. thats not how the concept of an afterlife works.
My RCC wife said, "Oh, you just want to read all the bad things God did!"
Me: "I'm also reading the good things!"
Deluded and conflicted, but happy...I guess.
But I know my Bible cover to cover -- mostly because I was raised Catholic. Believe me, Roman Catholics read their Bible. I can't account for what they do with it from there. But they read it.
There is some great poetry in there, though. And some good stories.
Try it, I dare you. Read it for a few weeks.
(Christian after buying a Bible)
I looked and no answer was good enough.
If you pray for something in the correct way, you get it. 100% true. But it’s extremely difficult to do. And prayer in general is to improve spirituality - which is what it is really all about
Praying to dead people is pointless. They are dead. Sad but true
Does he just never perform miracles?
Depends what you mean by miracles. Yes God does do miracles.
Are you saying he picks and chooses which evil to prevent? Wouldn't that eliminate free will?
A lot of very smart people work on them every day. Someday, people may learn the answers.
Sadly they are also dangerous in the extreme.
Fortunately, some people have been brave enough to reject mythology and seek the truth.
#TaxTheChurches
A general education also helps. And that is why the first thing republicans attacked was education.
Put it into historical context.
Dont eat pork or seafood…God isn’t going to tell them about Salmonella, they are as likely to start worshipping it as avoid it, so “it’s bad” is enough.
Also, Jesus was a chill hippy…which is great.
Christian values, now that’s some racist, misogynistic shit. The poor?? Haha.
I did study Zen, Buddhism, Taoism, and have plenty of books on them
I disagree.
Has anyone tried to have AI re-write the Bible before? Surely.
I would probably be an atheist.
The worst crime ever perpetrated on humanity and the longest running CON JOB in history.