Carney gets it. Time for Australian politicians to catch up - ThreadSky

grogsgamut.bsky.social • 4 days ago

Carney gets it. Time for Australian politicians to catch up

Carney: "The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over."

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nanasmith.bsky.social•4 days ago

Won’t happen with Dutton and Gina!

kiemileaks.bsky.social•4 days ago

Or Marles

kimpreston.bsky.social•4 days ago

Unfortunately for many of us, no choice is appealing. Albo is a completely uninspiring disappointment incapable of actual leadership and the LNP are aiming to just follow everything Trump does. Hoping more independents get up 🤞

debincbr.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yep…..showing no sign of it though

gorhetti.bsky.social•4 days ago

Absolutely gone kaput finished. Get the USA bases out of Australia.

jakobgamertsfelder.bsky.social•3 days ago

If we do not cut ties with America right now, then we get to join them in some of their unnecessary wars, this year.

Trump promised war, purges and dictatorship.

Only a fool who wants to die would not believe him.

stejwill.bsky.social•3 days ago

They think that if you’re friendly with the playground bully maybe you won’t get bullied. Not a good look at school or in international relations.

stellajorette.bsky.social•4 days ago

As a trade partner, Asia is conveniently located.

alisonjones.bsky.social•4 days ago

#auspol
@australianlabor.bsky.social
@jimchalmers.bsky.social

j2dk.bsky.social•4 days ago

Australia should be on this list, but our pissweak political leaders are just not up for that conversation.
They fear upsetting the US more than Aus citizens facing danger there.
https://bsky.app/profile/charlotteclymer.bsky.social/post/3llf3zlclhk24

j2dk.bsky.social•4 days ago

People are being black-bagged on the streets and shipped to labour camps in the Central American jungle.

clobella.bsky.social•4 days ago

I wish Australia was on this list.

jaynegallaghe20.bsky.social•4 days ago

And the UK

mrkranky.bsky.social•3 days ago

Albanese doesn’t have the ticker to stand up for Australia’s sovereignty.

geoffwin.bsky.social•4 days ago

They are still hoping it will all "return to normal" in a few years time.

qbas81.bsky.social•4 days ago

Time to reconsider AUKUS and "five eyes".

heathryan16.bsky.social•4 days ago

Indeed.

axiomatixx.bsky.social•3 days ago

Way past. DuttNO is still carrying water for these scum.
The leader of our opposition openly supports white supremists and fascists? Openly supports them.

What the fuck??!? He should be on a fucking watchlist, not running for prime minister.

aeb1.bsky.social•3 days ago

First party to address national security and tRump is a vote winner
Either way our trade is effected so need to be bold

murranji.bsky.social•3 days ago

With some luck this election will see the fewest votes for the ALP and LNP to date.

cafetelaviv.bsky.social•3 days ago

davelennon.bsky.social•3 days ago

after the election ... can you imagine what murdoch would do if there was the merest suggestion of this kind of thinking before may 3rd

inaluxe.bsky.social•3 days ago

@albomp.bsky.social

johnnicolay.bsky.social•4 days ago

We should be counting our blessings that we are on the periphery of this. Why the desperation to turn ourselves into a main character?

Are you bored?

rettopnoj.bsky.social•4 days ago

Australian politicians have always dreamed of being part of the US.

johnnicolay.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think it’s more prevalent among Australian posters than Australian politicians.

kenjeffery.bsky.social•4 days ago

As a Canadian with family in Australia, I respectfully ask you to reconsider. Canada learned the hard way that no one is on the periphery for long. Better if we work together in the long run.

johnnicolay.bsky.social•4 days ago

I am sure that the Australian government is working very closely with the Canadian government. In fact, there was a major deal on radar systems announced a couple of weeks ago. But it’s not in Australia’s interests to be publicly critical of the US admin right now.

kenjeffery.bsky.social•4 days ago

Oh I get it. Trump won’t even return your phone calls right now, and frankly flying under the radar is appealing. Best of luck in your election! Just don’t trust America, is all I can say. Cheers!

kdvncm.bsky.social•4 days ago

It absolutely is in Australia's interest right now because Trump is not your ally.

Trump realizes that the only way he can be stopped is if his enemies (eg, Canada, EU, Australia) hang together.

Hang together or hang alone.

https://bsky.app/profile/kdvncm.bsky.social/post/3ll7tswgsds2p

johnnicolay.bsky.social•4 days ago

Saying that Australia doesn’t need to be loudly criticising the US right now is not inconsistent with also saying that Australia should be working with Canada and all of our other partners and allies to transition to a world where no-one is dependent on the US.

gwyntaglaw.bsky.social•4 days ago

There’s a strong case to be made for taking a front foot in shaping events rather than wait for American chaos agents to shape them for us. Musk is coming for the Australian election, that’s a certainty. He already loathes the Labor government and won’t hesitate to jump in.

paul.kidd.id.au•4 days ago

He’s really good. I’m astonished that the Canadian political system works in such a way that a non-politician can become party leader and shift the momentum of politics so dramatically.

chookybum.bsky.social•3 days ago

So everyone commenting has stopped buying everything the US sells us?? Disconnected Netflix? Stopped using Microsoft? Google? This platform is owned by an American.

brissymart.bsky.social•23 hours ago

I'm working on it.

crimsonfinch.bsky.social•3 days ago

Not yet but thinking about it and what alternatives we have. Next phone will be a Fairphone, will try and load a non-android OS but not underestimating the degree of difficulty. Facebook sucks but hard to eliminate messenger and WhatsApp when it's how other folks communicate with you.

chookybum.bsky.social•3 days ago

It will be impossible to get rid of everything. I wish Australia had its own tech.

blshiv.bsky.social•3 days ago

Work in progress.

muditj-chuditch.bsky.social•3 days ago

Working on it. Snarking at people for not just flipping a switch on everything is counterproductive.

chookybum.bsky.social•3 days ago

To be fair, Trump said he would take Canada. Not really the same threats to us.

carrieonbaggage.bsky.social•4 days ago

Start with an apology to France and dump #AUKUS.

david-j-harley.bsky.social•3 days ago

I've never understood why how little Australian media reports on Canada. We are sister countries and Canada is slightly larger and close to a country that would like to rule the world. Canada is looking to get new submarines; Australian politicians would be wise to follow their lead & fuck AUKUS off

luket245.bsky.social•4 days ago

Serious question. What should our national security strategy rest on if not traditional alliances? We’re a small nation on a large bit of land without the military to secure the place on our own.

lvan61.bsky.social•4 days ago

ANZUS has never guaranteed that The USA would defend us.
We cling to this myth at the expense of being independent thinkers.
We can, and should, do better.
Embedding our military capability into the US defence industry is not clever.

luket245.bsky.social•4 days ago

I get the argument but what’s the alternative strategic option? Is it closer ties to nato or being more open to china?

tommyjones.bsky.social•2 days ago

Nato is kinda busy right now and one member is trying to grab other member and an island. False security is no security. Oh, and be sure you have full source code for plains and subs.

luket245.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes yes, but what’s the alternative? Nukes seem unlikely. A Chinese alliance seems political problematic. India and Japan provide options maybe?

tommyjones.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hard to tell who’s trustworthy nowadays. India has the manpower and Japan the industrial (military) power.

luket245.bsky.social•2 days ago

Development of treaties with some ASEAN alliance countries maybe?

thenoseknow.bsky.social•2 days ago

Albo and the Dudd fight over who is kissing Trump's arse the best !!! Both are deeply UNAUSTRALIAN !!! Put them last, that's where they put you!!!

forbestonow.bsky.social•4 days ago

Not just Australians. Everyone needs to take the hint while they can still do something useful about it.

tigerconlon.bsky.social•4 days ago

Dutton and others flew over for tRUMP schooling at least 4 times, on Aus taxpayers. Gina's doing deals with tRUMP to buy oil and gas in the US and wants his DOGE cuts here in Aus.
Gina's LNP won't do it.

gwb-1.bsky.social•4 days ago

We always want to use another selectively chosen country when it suits.
Canadian politics have nothing to do with Australia.
What a yet to be elected politician has to do with Australians'decisions is as fictitious as Dutton's support for wage earners.

pinnacledrop54.bsky.social•3 days ago

I do admire the straight talking of the Canadians.

bestarchaeopteryx.bsky.social•4 days ago

Really admiring you for speaking out against this sort of craziness, thanks Greg

meckeringboy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Carney’s in a similar situation with an election looming, but he has a spine. Unlike his counterparts in Australia. I thought we Aussies were renowned for our courage.

We are wimps in the face of a bully.

waynedmoore.bsky.social•3 days ago

It absolutely is.

marianami.bsky.social•3 days ago

I believe a Guardian poll showed 29% of Australians would’ve voted for Trump if they had a chance, & 49% of LMP supporters. We’ve got a fifth column of MAGA right here in Australia. I know many of them, & they’re loyal to Trump over Aus.

plmg53.bsky.social•4 days ago

There continued use of weasel words makes you wonder who is delulu.

maxwatching.bsky.social•4 days ago

Exactly. Needs to be an election issue

roseannebyrne.bsky.social•4 days ago

Scared weird little guys our politicians. They definitely don’t represent us or lead us. Small invisible targets.

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