If true then the US is now a genuine Russia-style mafia state. Russia extorts with energy-, the US with tech-dependence. I trust the conclusions we draw from this will also turn into a semblance of policy. - ThreadSky

ilvestoomas.bsky.social • 9 hours ago

If true then the US is now a genuine Russia-style mafia state.

Russia extorts with energy-, the US with tech-dependence.

I trust the conclusions we draw from this will also turn into a semblance of policy.

Reposted from Indy Auntie

"During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the Starlink service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations."

Astonishing betrayal of an ally.

www.reuters.com/business/us-...

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hamsamrich.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I am no longer proud of being an American. I don’t know if I ever will be again.

rearlamp.bsky.social•8 hours ago

But how will Russia's reconnaissance and attack drones send and receive data?

https://defence-blog.com/russia-modifies-shahed-drones-with-starlink-antennas/

tapioseta.bsky.social•5 hours ago

We have to make Europe great again.

Or else we are all doomed.

#MEGA
#SiVisPacem
#nuclearWeponsForEurope

hayrinenjuho.bsky.social•3 hours ago

China must feel exhilirated right now as USA is painting itself in the corner.

msw599.bsky.social•2 hours ago

#FreeLuigi

kairos.social•8 hours ago

The #mobster-in-chief

#MoneyPower: 💰 🔄 👊
Money > power > more money > more power…

Democracy > oligarchy > mafia state

Here we are.

https://youtu.be/bqwg2Hzn5sw

kairos.social•8 hours ago

csommersko.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The US military needs to exterminate the vermin before it's too late.

jonnyroyale.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Starlink should be banned across Europe if this proves to be the leverage they are trying to use. See how quick Egon and Trump roll back the threat

joshroman.bsky.social•2 hours ago

https://bsky.app/profile/joshroman.bsky.social/post/3lihukwf7lc2t

amadiadebayo.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Musk was never an ally.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he was passing on intel to russia from UA troops using starlink.

Europe should have provided an alternative for starlink since day one.

andriiphysicist.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Oh really?! Just what kind of an alternative? What is its name, price, characteristics?

cepelinas.bsky.social•8 hours ago

It’s obvious that the world order that existed since the end of the Cold War is over. It had been in decline for years already. My only fear is that the EU won’t step up where it needs to because there will be some Member States still hoping that Trump is an anomaly and things go back to normal.

sirihigher.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Sadly wad to be expected. Reliance on Starlink is a danger to us all

hansdeclercq.bsky.social•9 hours ago

you are unreasonable about the Mafia. Don Corleone first made a polite and reasonable offer before having a horse's head delivered.

kittyonunicorn.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Did mean to write "Donnie"?

madonnahatesputin.bsky.social•2 hours ago

madammem.bsky.social•6 hours ago

We cannot conflate Musk's businesses with the US government.

We cannot give oligarchs power

Musk cannot extort a sovereign state. His businesses should be immediately under investigation in the EU for extortion along with all other NATO allies (minus US)

Oligarchs are not above the law

ronaldvbakel.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Outright extortion.

samisky.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Disgusting

xgabrriell.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Who will keep buying almost anything from US if this risk is so high, that in the future the product/service would be useless? Arms included...

femmedefinesse.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Is OneWeb an option for Ukraine?

ide1.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Starlink is owned by Elon Musk.

johndalton1108.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Spot on

yanadear.bsky.social•9 hours ago

yep the world order as we knew it is gone

mrhappyonbsky.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Just like russia, if Ukraine agrees to the terms the U.S. dictates for continued support – I don't think they're worth the paper they're written on. U.S. will at any point *again* threaten to cut off Starlink when they feel they can extort even more.

abvasconcelos.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Maybe zelensky knows that and is just buying some time.

alphast.bsky.social•4 hours ago

No the USA has been purely and simply been taken over by a KGB agent. The Republicans have elected agent “Krasnov” as president. They are not a mafia state. They are a new Russian oblast.

hengymrohebwlad.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I hope the Ukrainians have been planning for this. It should be no surprise to anybody, as Musk has played games with Starlink access previously during Ukrainian offensives.

marytorgersen.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Trump’s introduction to Zelenskyy in the famous 2019 phone call involved extortion; it’s only fitting that now Trump has advanced to extortion plus blackmail. So on point!

This fits with Susan Glassner’s theory that Trump is not merely siding with Putin, but adopting Putin’s worldview as his own.

marytorgersen.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Correction: typo - should read Glasser. Sorry.

supergoofnz.bsky.social•3 hours ago

If republicans hadn't let him get away with it the first time, the world and especially Ukraine wouldn't be in this mess.

miskanuutinen.bsky.social•8 hours ago

It could be true, considering who Musk is. The U.S. likely allows him to weaponize Starlink, cutting service as Ukraine fights Russia. This isn’t support—it’s blackmail. Disgraceful.

odd3mann.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Unacceptable blackmailing from an ally!!!

massimo-taurus.bsky.social•8 hours ago

No surprise - is this the true face of americans making deals by extortion? By our law this is illegal and can be disputed afterwards. How can Americans allow Musk & Trump to oberrule and moral and law?

martinneu.bsky.social•8 hours ago

For all countries that have purchased more complex US systems such as the F-35: These cannot be used for long without explicit and active US support.

ckarion.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Sweden produces fighter jets, the JAS 39 Gripen. And would like to sell some. Just saying.

martinneu.bsky.social•3 hours ago

True. Good jets at reasonable price.
Eurofighter Typhoon is European, Rafale is French. However, some Tactical Data Link (TDL) components are classified as 'US Secret'. Can be overcome with some creativity.

frankkh.bsky.social•9 hours ago

The best thing to hope for is that a sniper could solve the #DonaldTrump and #ElonMusk problem.

It would be two of the most dangerous men on earth who would be no more.
Right now they're on a killing spree, and they need to be stopped - NOW!

eielsen.bsky.social•3 hours ago

SES from Luxembourg operates O3b; might be possible to swap? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O3b

tridang.bsky.social•7 hours ago

If Ukraine survives the next 4 years, we will have to send them the scalps of Trump and Musk as an apology…

wayan2007.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Why we need develop inside EU so not have this new mafia country dictate us!!

mgrinvalds.bsky.social•9 hours ago

I feel that the turning point to embolden Musk was Boeing's failure to seriously challenge SpaceX. It could be just another space company,but now it is the ultimate service provider for US Gov in many areas that are crucial for https://nat.security. Huge leverage

supergoofnz.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I wouldn't trust the US to keep its word even if Zelensky is forced to sign the extortion agreement.

atriverside.bsky.social•3 hours ago

https://bsky.app/profile/atriverside.bsky.social/post/3liqhj7bkhs2q

sordf1sh.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Musk's grandfather was the leader
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement

boonru.bsky.social•8 hours ago

As an American: It's bad and going to get a lot worse. Hang in there and we'll be friends again after we put the orange-faced fuk-muppet and his cronies on pikes.

avestbom.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Sorry indeed to say but how is that as half the US hate our guts to the point they voted Trump in?

boonru.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Very few of those voters hate you. They are insecure, ignorant and desperate for change w/o understanding the cost. They hate themselves more than anything. The memories of world war have faded and ignorance is running it's course over here because eggs are $8... TLDR It's stupidity, not anti-EU.

turnitup5000db.bsky.social•27 minutes ago

Put more simply, they hate a caricature of liberals and the left they associate with Europe due to seven decades of right wing propaganda. The American right was never your friend. The center and left still are but we’re in trouble over here and can’t guarantee a win anymore.

everythingistolong.bsky.social•7 hours ago

oleichristensen.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Exactly the same.
Russia threatened Europe by restricting the gas supply - the Americans are now threatening with disabling some critical technology used in the war.

Shame on America! 🤮

jannehaverinen.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I think the lesson here is: don't trust the USA with anything, and don't trust or rely on anything coming from one of Elon Musk's companies. I bet Grok AI will also be a time bomb for everyone adopting it—I would even trust DeepSeek more

tapioseta.bsky.social•5 hours ago

OK.

Can we still buy 64 Gripens in stead lf F35's?

_Nothing_ with software from US cant be trusted.

#buyEuropean
#MEGA
#SiVisPacem

nicolekidmansnose.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Just because the USA is not to be trusted it doesn't mean we can suddenly start trusting China either! They're also not our friends. They continue to supply rocket fuel for Russian missiles bombing Ukraine.

chinaswede.bsky.social•6 hours ago

How to get rid of US based cloud services, like Amazon, Azure, Google? Many companies and organisations have cloudified core services and data there.

tapioseta.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Soon millions of refugees who love democracy and freedom will be fleeing from US to Europe.

We need EU visa program to atract US scientists, engineers, soldiers ect. who love democracy and freedom.

They just fired many of their top generals...

#MakeEuropeGreatAgain
#MEGA

tapioseta.bsky.social•5 hours ago

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/02/21/fired-joint-chiefs-chairman-top-navy-leader-air-force-vice-chief-service-judge-advocates-general.html

tapioseta.bsky.social•5 hours ago

With strenght, will and european co-operation and intuitivity.

Soon millions of refugees who love democracy and freedom will be fleeing from US to Europe...

cosmologist.info•7 hours ago

I wondered about this. Grok 3 seems not too bad (though note X is “primary source”). But it is the best currently-free model; may try to get market share and in govt, then later can be bend at will. (If trained on X, will have increasing slant anyway).

donalddumb.bsky.social•5 hours ago

of course, it's true. the pattern is obvious.

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