I still don't like commenting on it because it was so obviously a Vladimir Putin event that was wildly successful and distracting from Ukraine, and dividing the center/ left.
You’re punching down while the responsible people above you are laughing all the way to the bank. Why not look up and focus your frustrations on those responsible for policies that didn’t resonate with voters? They’re the ones who actually blew the election, not some people who were against genocide
Naw. If you make a protest vote and then it blows up in your face, that's on you. They were warned what Trump would do. But their need for purity in their candidates blinded them. They chose the candidate who was completely reprehensible and dangerous over the one that wasn't pure enough. FAFO.
What evidence did the Dems show they were any different on this situation other than the approach? Trump is doing it gloves off, but the Dems handle it by hemming and hawing about how powerless they are to stop it. Kamala would have acted that she was powerless and this still would have happened.
Just curious as to what power you think Biden and Harris have over Israel/Gaza. Seriously, what t-rump is proposing is illegal on many levels but the US does not (until possibly now) rule over Israel or Gaza. Hemming and hawing us diplomacy.
Trump sent a signal back in 2017 when he unilaterally declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel and moved our embassy there. These virtue signaling knuckleheads still beat the crap outta Biden and Harris, threw votes away and here we are. It’s mind boggling. They didn’t help Palestinians one iota.
so now what. do we say "told ya so" and then bask in schadenfreude? If it makes you happy to say "told ya so", go for it. These weren't the first people snowed/taken by trump, and wont be the last. So do we keep the door open for all victims of Trump. Or, hey, we can just be high and mighty
These people are beyond reach in any normal way so "told you so" might be the only way. Perhaps they SHOULD be mocked to their faces and made to see how they betrayed their country, themselves, & those they were pretending to care about in the case of the single issue Gaza voters
Oh, so sorry that we have to confront you with reality and hurt your sensitive little feelingsI. If you weren't living in delusion where you support a deranged, hate-filled mentally defective pres who in plain sight is destroying our country, perhaps we could be a bit more genteel.
Disagree. But you're entitled to your opinions. However you can't rationally blame the entire DEM loss on the handful of single issue Gaza voters who DEMS discounted and irrelevant and shoved in the corner. Sorry, you dont' get to make them wear that anvil on their neck.
The protest vote played a part in the Crooks victory. Now the Muslims who didn't vote President Biden. Well, look what the Crook did with their vote. Kicking Muslims out of Gaza! They trusted a snake! He doesn't want to rebuild Gaza for the citizens of Gaza. He wants to rebuild it and profit.
Never want to hear from them again! All they do is drag everyone down into whatever foreign op they fell for and refuse to learn for themselves. They can sit in the car and let mom and dad handle real life 🙄
Cool. So not voting for a genocide is “self-righteous” now.
It’s amazing how quickly Harris forcing to choose for or against a genocide turned democrats into soulless sycophants who have thrown their moral structure into the trash.
Your right, Trump was the right choice.. do you hear yourself. We have a 2 party system we have to operate in. Plain as day. They threw a fit and won a 2nd Trump term. Palestinians will pay the price for immature American voters who can future cast.
Ended up with not biting for the slaughter of 50k people.
Unlike you.
And by the way, KAMALA was the one who made it end like this. She should never have made people vote for genocide. This is on her, not people who couldn’t vote for open slaughter.
Sadly, the people claiming to care the most about Gaza are
sleeping the soundest.
Performative activism is a great sleep aid. Do something that makes YOU feel good. Get forgetful when your actual actions are shown to support the opposition and their policies. Policies you hated so much. Hmm.
i warned people: Trump will be far worse. Biden is a war criminal, still voting for him over Trump. Then Harris, who didn't listen & lost, but I voted for her.
Because the fucking job was to vote for the least harm. Chances of making the world better would have been easier with Harris. What fools.
No Democrat is responsible for Americans voting in fascism, and you as Americans have to take the responsibility. I do not understand why is it that you Americans think that Democrats are at fault for this. It just doesn't make any sense.
Saudis gave Kushner $2billion. No one knows why. Kushner is not a fund managers arse. Bibi visited 47 had secret talks. Kushner and 47 talked about developing Gaza all before 2024 election. Saudis ‘say’ they support Palestine. We will see.
Have all the previous administrations been aligned with Israel and complicit in genocide? Yes. Did refusing to vote for Harris/Walz destroy all hope for a two-state solution? Also yes.
I think it’s more a case of cutting off your nose despite your face, and then acting bewildered when your face is funky. Maybe you didn’t like your nose, but didn’t you realize you’d hate your noseless face even more?
Not a new take to blame minority voters (namely Muslims) for the completely predictable effect of the DNC’s “I’m speaking” strategy instead of the white women and men who rallied behind Trump.
I totally despise Biden’s role in the Gaza genozide. However, it was clear as it can be that felon47 never wanted a 2 state solution. It was clear he wanted Gaza for his own purposes (see Guardian article from march 2024). I will never understand why there were no protests against felon47
It just blew my mind that some folks saw the election as this type of binary: Vote for the preservation of Democracy but the persecution of Palestine, or vote for the liberation of Palestine but the destruction of Democracy. Hard to fathom how folks didn't see they were getting both with Trump.
Jesus, those protest votes really f^cked us all, didn’t they? As well as all the lazy Dems who couldn’t make it up off their asses to vote. How much louder did we have to yell about how IMPORTANT this vote was?
And now we are all paying the price.
They did, they sealed the fate of their own people, from the comfort of their safe USA lives. They can’t say they did not know, they were warned over and over. They allowed themselves to be seduced by 47 because his rhetoric rhymes with their misogyny. FAFO.
Maybe that was the only chance, the Harris admin clearly stated (via actions) it would continue to bomb and Harris’s husband declaring his love for Israel at the convention demonstrated even more. So take a chance or vote for genocide?
Right? Jared Kushner has literally talked about how when he was a child, Netanyahu would borrow his bedroom when he’d visit the Kushners’ home. People are just too uninformed.
Lotta thought the leopards eating faces party was done eating faces, people believed the media when they sane washed every crazy thing they said. True culpability is media conglomerates. #fuckmurdoch.
There's a LOT of people that pay no attention and when they heard people on the LEFT and right saying kamala was just as bad, they assumed there must be some fire to the smoke and stayed home.
They blame Harris and Biden, but the reality is the funds were approved by congress with a veto proof majority, so there was fuck all they can do. President does not control funds..... well until the last 2 weeks that is
They can go fuck themselves. When Gaza and the West Bank are depopulated, and annexed along with East Jerusalem - they have only themselves to blame for their misery.
Please don't blame a lost election on a minority of voters. Please blame a lost election on the unpopular policies espoused by the incumbent administration that then disenfranchised would-be voters. Please!
I went on a coffee date with someone who claimed they voted for Stein. I asked lots of questions to understand their reasoning and politely challenged their views. That was the last date.
While I was not in agreement with Joe and Kamala about israel, I still stand strong in a position that this ‘alternative’ would effectively eradicate the Palestinian state.
Shame on them for throwing a fit and now we are all reaping the consequences… fuck them all.
Exactly. It is the rigidity refusal to think about context
All them: not bombing babies is easy
🙄. That’s the answer to international diplomacy in the Middle East 🤦♀️
I gave up and told one of them to run for president since they have answers no one else has arrived at in 70 years
I hear from them all the time. They have a pretty massive superiority complex (I’ll probably hear from them again now). I think we should all chip in and get em a suite at the new Trump Tower Gaza for their efforts.
Exactly how I felt. I thought It was clear to everyone. Apparently not. Too many agendas like the Gaza votes, the Evangelical votes (far more than I ever imagined) etc etc
I feel guilty about enjoying this I told you so. Do I get a free pass since they put this above my rights? Even after being told this was going to happen?
I think the whole issue is these people are escapists who live outside of reality
These issues are important to their sense of identity but they aren’t legitimately connecting with potential consequences
I think, for the most part, the dissent was well-intended.
Unfortunately, vibes are not enough. We need strategists. Had these same folks approached this with strategy, the risk to Gaza from a possible Trump win should have made sitting out or third party voting unthinkable.
“Obviously there is no way in hell we can let Trump touch Gaza so we are getting in the car with Harris.
And she better get ready because I’m gonna be screaming DRIVE in her ear with a knife to her ribs so I hope she’s not planning on A MOMENT of peace
That’s why Bibi went to Maralogo, to do the deal, he needed 47 to win to keep him in power, he is up on charges just like 47 in his own country. He was terrified that Harris would win, she would have used her power to bring a 2 state solution, he is and has always been opposed to it.
Not true. AOC was lying when she said the Kamala was working tirelessly for a ceasefire. She wasn’t. There was zero difference between her and biden’s positions on Gaza and it wasn’t that people voted third party. People who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t vote for anyone. Harris gambled and lost.
I'm all for strategic voting, but I can't honestly say what my vote would be if tens of thousands of my friends, family and countrymen were being slaughtered. Until such time, the most I'd hope to do is seek to understand, and try not to be callous or hypocritical.
If my tolerance would make it, I’d hunt through my Threads account for all the people who vehemently argued with me that their virtue signaling would work and they were going to stop the genocide by not voting or voting third party
But they don’t total enough people to have lost the election. I can almost give a pass to the relatives of Gaza residents. But all the white virtue signalers should have known better what was going to happen in the swing states. The difference between Biden’s vote in 2020 and 2024.
They were all over me on my old account here on Bluesky. They called me a fascist and asked how many Gazans had to die to elect Kamala, as if there’s an equivalence.
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Meanwhile, on the strip, some of their fellow countrymen are suicide bombers.
It's all a matter of conviction
Hate Hamas? You hate Palestinians!
Hate Netanyahu? You hate Jews!
Hate Both (me)? Fence Sitter!
Punching those idiots who led you directly to trump is absolutely punching UP.
https://bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social/post/3lhfowqowtm27
they FAFO with other people’s lives
FUCK PROPALI IDIOTS
So of course no one will listen to an arrogant fuck who has not participated in a SINGLE discussion.
Sit down as you know nothing.
too embarrassed
ashamed
you FAFO with other people’s lives.
that’s the worst kind of human
It’s amazing how quickly Harris forcing to choose for or against a genocide turned democrats into soulless sycophants who have thrown their moral structure into the trash.
We don’t call you blue MAGA for nothing.
You folded like a cheap suit because your party told you to.
In reality, they did not take the actions statistically most likely to prevent further genocide. (even if it was only +0.0001% chance)
To me, this looks like image > reality
What a total failure of misplaced and obviously stupid convictions without fact or reason.
You hwve been folded wnd owned, and EVRYONE is laughing at how you found the WORST possible end!
Unlike you.
And by the way, KAMALA was the one who made it end like this. She should never have made people vote for genocide. This is on her, not people who couldn’t vote for open slaughter.
You: “You need to vote to murder your own family, or trump will be president”
*trump becomes president*
You: “It’s your fault trump is president”
You've been proven dead wrong.
Nobody cares about your irraional ideas that led you to it.
YOU LOST.
WE TOLD YOU YOU WOULD LOSE.
AND YOU DIDN'T CARE.
And nobdy gives a shut abkut your idio5iv rationalizatikns.
Gaza doesn't care about your feelings.
Nothing you said make a bit of diffeence in the end.
You wree fucked massively and you've been shown to be a compelte and total idiot.
Welcome to 2025!
The old stupid lies are obvious now.
sleeping the soundest.
Performative activism is a great sleep aid. Do something that makes YOU feel good. Get forgetful when your actual actions are shown to support the opposition and their policies. Policies you hated so much. Hmm.
Because the fucking job was to vote for the least harm. Chances of making the world better would have been easier with Harris. What fools.
too many elected Democrats are mediocre, lack courage and vision.
the Republicans are just vile.
and we fucking citizens need to reclaim our involvement in civic life.
Look at the FuQing SMIRK on Netanyahu face ..
Cannot hide his glee from the world that is watching this final step of genocide.
And then US is an occupying force?? Forever ??
We all saw how that worked out for every other G Damn neo colonial ‘western’ (white) nation.
Body bags!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gi_RuAwXkAAFcUe?format=jpg&name=medium
They're not listening still --
Perhaps they never will.
"Vincent", Don McLean
No further comment necessary
Trump the traitor just sold the USA 's should to Putin
Trump WILL have US military stationed there
And as much as I don’t want them injured
Get the Fuq out of an illegal occupation!
Hegseth will clean out REAL CAREER OFFICERS
As they disobey an unlawful order
There’s gonna be a blood bath & teump doesn’t give a shit
And now we are all paying the price.
There's a LOT of people that pay no attention and when they heard people on the LEFT and right saying kamala was just as bad, they assumed there must be some fire to the smoke and stayed home.
Case in point just above…
Fuck them… all.
All about genocide Joe
The brainwashing still very entrenched
Shame on them for throwing a fit and now we are all reaping the consequences… fuck them all.
All them: not bombing babies is easy
🙄. That’s the answer to international diplomacy in the Middle East 🤦♀️
I gave up and told one of them to run for president since they have answers no one else has arrived at in 70 years
They probably still think Harris would have done the same thing.
Then they drank Trump’s tainted champagne and the “oh my fucking god, what did we do?” hangover is hitting them really hard today.
Oh well. Be best.♥️🇨🇦
That's a Russian bot.
Ignore it.
We should call it out.
But I am waiting for the collective acknowledgment of how gravely they misjudged and who will pay for it.
Instead, I see indignance about derailing. Pointing out consequences is 'mean'. Why won't we unite!
But I wrote something immediately after Trump won on ig, blacking out in anger, like
FYI I remember what you said leading up to this election and I won’t forget it
Haven’t
Not sure that acknowledgment will happen but I know who should be doing it
These issues are important to their sense of identity but they aren’t legitimately connecting with potential consequences
Everything is vibes & feelings
In the now
Unfortunately, vibes are not enough. We need strategists. Had these same folks approached this with strategy, the risk to Gaza from a possible Trump win should have made sitting out or third party voting unthinkable.
“Obviously there is no way in hell we can let Trump touch Gaza so we are getting in the car with Harris.
And she better get ready because I’m gonna be screaming DRIVE in her ear with a knife to her ribs so I hope she’s not planning on A MOMENT of peace
big long thread🧵
https://bsky.app/profile/edhirsch.bsky.social/post/3l4kcduxfg626
Remember what that terrorist #RashidaTlaib said about #GenocideJoe, Harris, #FreeGaza, & #FreePalestine
#FAFO boo-hoo
Expect a $ of $15-20 BILLION to be floated around - but US military will be provided to assure public safety
Ben Gurion Canal; & Kushner to manage contracts