Honestly that is really what caused my post election shell shock. That all his grifting, bigotry, criminality, bullying, wasn't enough to discourage people from voting for him
I remember during a Trump rallies said something to the effect that he didn't need any more votes and this may be the last election you'll need to vote in. I'm paraphrasing.
I've read many posts here that claim we should be understanding of those that voted for Trump and not pick on them. I understand the reasoning behind this I just can't pretend I don't hold them responsible for where we are. I for one will verbally knock them down every chance I get for being stupid.
My MAGA neighbor just bought a $15k Kabuto tractor to do some side gigs and I suggested it wasn't recession-proof but he laughed it off. I bought him groceries back in 2008 so we'll see how this venture pans out.
EXACTLY!!!! People seem to forget millions of people put this felon AND his enablers in office and nothing he's done should be a surprise to anyone!!!!!
Some of them are MAGA and some were too lazy to really look at the whole thing and they just went with their normal Republican voting. & then there were some who thought a black woman in the presidency wouldn’t work.🙄 and then there were some which shows not to vote for president but the others ok.
I see maga shit around my city all the time and I live in a suburb of a deep blue city. It’s unsettling knowing I live next to people who would rat out Anne Frank to the nazis
We need to acknowledge that a big % of this country’s population is in true sense dumber and more apathetic than populations of most so called 3rd world countries.
I know people, related to people who are intelligent. It’s a cult and has nothing to do with intelligence. They have been fed lies by Republican media for so many years and now they wouldn’t not recognize the truth if it tanked their 401k’s.
Unfortunately it isn't as simple as lack of intelligence, nor some relatively recent GOP glitch. It is more like another collapse of "Reconstruction" - instead of post-civil war, this is post-civil rights. It's about the America the Nazis admired and emulated. https://bsky.app/profile/zulaqi.bsky.social/post/3lmkmwop2t224
I think it's definitely meanness, cruelty, racism and all of the above apart from lack of intelligence. I think it's soft and naive to assume these people are stupid and not just assholes who won't cooperate in a society unless they're shamed and goaded by laws. Some people will never be nice.
the gas made the germans in dresden stupid too. 2 gallons to move the gas chamber and the other 8 gallons is the gas. the cyclist can feel the gas chamber.
Truly. This is an agenda that has been in the works by the "best educated" degenerates for years, decades, and is based on how the "best educated" have firmly tried to be for decades (centuries.) It is 2025, and "take Greenland" or market manipulation don't cause immediate impeachment?
But All The Rest of the @245 Million Eligible Voters-Did Not!
The @75 Million Harris/Walz Voters; the @4 Million Others Voters; the @89 Million Non-Voters; and X Number of New Voters (from the @96 Million Ineligible in 2024) Have A Great Chance to #VOTE U.S. BACK through Many 2025-2026 Elections!
Statistically it means if you have 2 neighbors, 1 will send you to a gas chamber with relish and delight.
Probably the one that goes to church every Sunday.
Republicans steer Democrats into the trap of defending controversial, but small, issues. Democrats, rather than hammer on universal issues like the economy, waste energy and lose people by making it look like the snail darter or pronouns are the most important issues in the world.
This article is paywalled, but even without the benefit of reading it I will say that I am 7000% done trying to “understand” these people. Twisting ourselves over trying to figure out the impetus of MAGA’s gripes has been a years-long, futile effort. They’re Nazis. It’s just what it is.
“A lot of the time, he said, Republicans seem to support policies that hurt people. When Democrats have bad ideas, as he sees it, “They’re not trying to hurt people, they’re just stupid.””
In the motivation lies the fundamental difference.
Neither will I. And what's worse is that nearly all of those who voted for him will stand by him, no matter what heinous acts he commits and whomever he hurts or gets killed. That's what shakes me.
When the ignorance has the benefits of democracy,all the power gets out of control.Now you have to fight for your rigths and freedom. We have the same perfect storm in my country Türkiye...
54% of Americans ages 17-65 read at 6th grade level or lower & 24% are virtually illiterate. We stopped Teaching of the Humanities 40 years ago & reduced education to “how much $$ da ya wanna make?” So we are illiterate idiots who love money & not that different from the idiots we elect
Thinking the election was rigged is a convenient way of ignoring the fact that we are a broken society. Even if Harris had gotten 80M votes like Biden did, 77M people voting for Trump is beyond disturbing/disgusting.
I have been watching this, with growing unease since 2015. I feel for my American neighbours, but I am so fed up and angry with the poison spillage over the border. I am horrified at its into our politics and our lives.🇨🇦
I agree, Steven Beschloss. Quite sad, and a generator of anger, disappointment, and major anxiety as to what happens now and how long before positive changes. Damn!
20 million Democrat votes are still LOST and no one even looked for them. Europe is not forgiving you that and neither that you (the US) had 4 years to stop and end the MAGA-madness. We'll never get over it.
💯 With all due respect, it seems there were less than 77 million; although ONE was way more than enough 🤮🤢 The whole world needs to keep reminding those maggots about their SCUMBAG felon.
Same man. I was willing to accept that 2016 was an aberration and he wasn’t even close to the popular vote. 2024, especially after all we went through with Dobbs, has broken me.
What's even more baffling is that these people voted for him after seeing his vast faults and contempt for this country and the rule of law.
They actually voted for someone that attempted to orchestrate a coup.
Trump's actions were treason.
I challenge them to stand against him before it's too late
Propaganda created the Inquisition, Nazis, ISIS and MAGAs. It's the root cause. Learn how sociopaths think and manipulate and it becomes clear. 45yrs of professional brainwashing since Reagan won't end when Trumps gone ,he's a symptom. There's always been a fascist streak in the GOP
Are you really surprised? Do you only know people who live in NYC and LA? Most of the county has been red hat territory since 9/11 or Reagan depending on how you look at it.
When you have unlimited resources the propaganda is strong. Lazy/non voters will be too lazy to protest as well. And that's literally all we have left. Smh.
For the life of me, I will NEVER understand that members of my own family voted for a Racist Rapist 34 count FELON that also incited an Insurrection! He has been a criminal all of his life. Now, he is destroying our nation and economy!
Yes, 77 million seems to be the number they're telling us.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but Trump DID thank Elon (at Trump's MAGA rally on the day of his Inauguration) for doing whatever he did with those Pennsylvania voting machines.
I think that's why Musk is all over Trump.
31% of eligible voters. Their poor judgment, & prejudices, caused great damage to us all. 69% knew all about Trump, because he has been in our faces constantly for 10 years, & wanted nothing to do with him.
We’re in a new era of alternate reality where shared, agreed basic truths are avoided by large segments of the population. In addition we have not been this divided since the civil war.
They:
-didn't know he was a monstrosity.
-had been marinating in resentment for some time, feeling ignored, disenfranchised, poor, stifled.
-felt powerless; he promised them power.
-knew nothing about his background.
-are poorly educated and/or illiterate, largely.
Well, like everything else about Trump, I don't believe that that's true. No one in the history of the United States has won every single swing state. you can't tell me that #DonTheCon pulled that off without cheating 🤪
Over 11 million people, that we know of, were illegally denied their right to vote by being booted from the rolls last minute or denied their right to register.
It is unclear how many more did vote...and their ballot was thrown out.
I got a bit of heat for saying this in another thread but this is why I would not vote for Harris or Walz again.
The Trump family holds a patent on voting machines and he bragged about rigging the election. A peaceful transfer of power my ass. A hand recount should have been done.
What I’m saying is we DID vote and musk not only said he could hack the election tabulation machines, Trump actually THANKED him the night of the elections for understanding the vote counting machines, and winning Pennsylvania in a landslide. We have been duped.
We HAVE been duped, and it`s been driving me crazy - also, why the Harris campaign refused to call for any recounts in those swing states is honestly reprehensible.
I would not ever vote for her. She destroyed my faith in not only her candidacy, but the entire Democratic Party. Cory Booker is restoring it, AOC, Swalwell - but Schumer is a huge disappointment all around z
We need a presidential recall poll. Ask voters “if the election was re-run today, how would you vote?” Then shove those results figuratively down the gullets of GOP senators and reps, tell them they are shackeled to a corpse, and maybe they should save themselves. Nixon him or all go down together.
They didn't "know" what they were voting for. If you listen to what ppl who voted for this idiot say, you get a picture of someone who doesn't exist. It happens on the other side as well but nowhere near the same extent. We have to figure out how to play the info game amidst the disinformation game.
This is their 2nd time voting for him. It is not any consolation to me that they are okay with the rascist rapist with 34 felonies but not losing their job or their savings. As long as he hurt other people, it was okay.
I was born in 1960, fifteen years after the end of WWII. America was a proud and strong country then, and I have always been proud to be an American. So now, 65 years later, you can imagine how I feel. A bit angry and disgusted, to say the least
They flush all that was decent and good with this country by voting for Trump! Sure we had problems to sort out but what it will become will be the equivalent what sits at the bottom of this bowl👇
The country we had on January 19th is gone. Will we ever be able to get it back? To be scared to write or say something, for fear of retaliation from the government isn’t America. I’m terrified for my children.
Almost everyone knows someone or has someone in their family who voted for him. I hate what they did. I'm trying hard not to hate them. I don't always succeed.
Because Steve,
He was ALLOWED to run for an Office from which he organized fraud electors in several States, gathered an armed rebellion AGAINST the Constitution, and LEVIED war on Congress with that armed rebellion...
Congress allowed him to run by CHOOSING to ignore the 14A. sec. 3.
Along with 7/2024 SCOTUS ruling on presidential immunity in case named none other Trump v. United States.
Which he is capitalizing on the immunity to the fullest. As in not complying with court rulings when it goes against him.
You are exactly right! Marie Le Pen who was convicted of embezzlement, is barred from running for president in France for 5 years. What is wrong with our system? The greatest in the world? Ummm...
Brazil... Courts took <5 months to disqualify.
S. Korea... Congress took
Arrogance leaves America blinded to the examples of Democratic accountability around the globe. Just because we've lasted this long does not make us great. It's what we've done... or haven't.
For 77 million Americans, two gay men getting married is as catastrophic as the 9/11 attacks. I'm serious about this; their hatred and bigotry is as strong in their minds as all other considerations.
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Slience is a vote.
They are just as much to blame as the ones who came out.
The @75 Million Harris/Walz Voters; the @4 Million Others Voters; the @89 Million Non-Voters; and X Number of New Voters (from the @96 Million Ineligible in 2024) Have A Great Chance to #VOTE U.S. BACK through Many 2025-2026 Elections!
Problem is, those that voted didn't think he meant that THEY would be affected.
Probably the one that goes to church every Sunday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/us/democrats-ipsos-poll-abortion-lgbt.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20250406213332/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/us/democrats-ipsos-poll-abortion-lgbt.html
In the motivation lies the fundamental difference.
Very interesting read.
Thanks for sharing it.
DOGE isn't "fixing" the government, it is dismantling it.
#Trump isn't "helping" Americans, he is retaliating against them.
Pam Bondi isn't "upholding" the Constitution, she is ignoring it.
I voted for HER
And I will hold a very substantial grudge.
Was it really the price of eggs?
Or something darker and more dangerous about our country?
They actually voted for someone that attempted to orchestrate a coup.
Trump's actions were treason.
I challenge them to stand against him before it's too late
I don't get it.
Good job guys, you lost a historical presidential election to a moron that is literally illiterate
#Resist #NoKings #FatHitler #DeportElon ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
Just as bad as the active voters for him, imo.
These same people must have some scars on burned fingers from repeatedly touching a hot stove bare handed.
Probably only when you take away their vapes and burgers.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but Trump DID thank Elon (at Trump's MAGA rally on the day of his Inauguration) for doing whatever he did with those Pennsylvania voting machines.
I think that's why Musk is all over Trump.
And 69 percent did not vote.
The most basic issue is that dems, if imperfect, are far better.
-didn't know he was a monstrosity.
-had been marinating in resentment for some time, feeling ignored, disenfranchised, poor, stifled.
-felt powerless; he promised them power.
-knew nothing about his background.
-are poorly educated and/or illiterate, largely.
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To learn more:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/the-changing-demographic-composition-of-voters-and-party-coalitions
https://cvp.ucdavis.edu/research/maga-republicans-views-american-democracy-and-society-and-support-political-violence
It's likely that recent events have changed these results, but they're a start.
Elon stole this election. How many times does Trump need to confess before someone actually listens?
It is unclear how many more did vote...and their ballot was thrown out.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
The Trump family holds a patent on voting machines and he bragged about rigging the election. A peaceful transfer of power my ass. A hand recount should have been done.
They had time to do something up to January 20, 2025… but they didn’t listen and didn’t act! WHO can do anything now? I fear it’s too late…
Now, I don't think I will put America in the "great" category ever again.
75m for Harris
89m didn't vote, winning in a landslide.
But why?
Purges of voter rolls, suppression laws, misinformation, Citizens United.
$290,000,000 Musk spent.
We are about 66 percent either crazy ot stupid, and probably some are both.
America is done. Far too stupid to succeed.
But the stupid will hurt the stupid the most.
He was ALLOWED to run for an Office from which he organized fraud electors in several States, gathered an armed rebellion AGAINST the Constitution, and LEVIED war on Congress with that armed rebellion...
Congress allowed him to run by CHOOSING to ignore the 14A. sec. 3.
That's how.
In 1988 Mitch came by.
I had to put him in front of a mic and let him prattle on about god, gays and guns.
Which he is capitalizing on the immunity to the fullest. As in not complying with court rulings when it goes against him.
S. Korea... Congress took
Arrogance leaves America blinded to the examples of Democratic accountability around the globe. Just because we've lasted this long does not make us great. It's what we've done... or haven't.
The truth is that America is only about money first, everything else, second and third.
This is the core truth irrespective of MAGA or Democrat.
Incidentally, why are people still calling it 'Republican' when clearly the GOP has died and there is no 'party'?