Trump is not able to run for office again in 2028. He will likely run the country into the ground during the next four years like he did during his first term. It's not likely people will want another 4 years of benefiting the rich and taking from the poor and Middle Class with Vance.
The Orange Slug is the clear & present danger. But the core of the problem is the alliance of the technoligarchy, obscenely wealthy, & the christofascist movement. They have conditioned a major % of the electorate to accept dictatorship. We may survive The Orange Slug but that is not the solution.
The sad part is that insurance companies will try to increase rates again for homes now in high-risk areas. Gavin Newsom will need to do something to entice people to move back.
So, it's supposed to charge more than cancel your policy when it's no longer profitable. I've seen this regarding our earthquakes, flash floods, and yearly fires. There is a reason people would rather not pay for a system that feels like a scam.
Building homes in certain parts of LA county (and much of the west) has always been risky and is becoming so much more risky due to climate change that offering home insurance is like offering life insurance to the Russian roulette player. It doesn’t make sense any sense & there’s no way to profit
Imagine if the fire fighters showed up, put out the fire and then demanded money , if you don't pay they put the fire back as it was, Imagine that for even a moment.
Yep. Let's see what kind of financial relief the insurance industry buys from the Republican Party over the next four years. It will be record breaking.
Me think “spark” is not the appropriate description, not quite sure he can “spark” anything even due to a catastrophic pump malfunctioning event , left alone start a fire …
You be hard pressed to find a personality as depressingly boring and lack of luster as Zuck
I heard there was some guy running around with a blow torch, but they couldn't arrest him for that, but apparently he had parole violations so he's in prison again.
Trump Didn’t Ensure Victims Of Fires Of Help Once He Was Pres. His Concern-Expensive For Insurance Companies. Never Said He Would Make Insurance Affordable/Liable To Pay. Made Irrational Conclusions About How To Remedy Future Desasters-While Disclaiming Climate Change As Reason For Desasters.
Maybe insurance companies will be the breaking point: refusing to pay out on medical claims, now cancelling policies when people are homeless and have lost literally everything. The message is that they are companies which take your money, then effuse to perform their obligations. Consequences.
The real mark of how low this country has fallen is how much hatred and nastiness is being directed to California instead of sympathy and help. I think it is time to secede from the awful thing the US has become and form a more perfect union.
One of our national political party leaders made an offer to California, Oregon and Washington to join Canada. We support our communities during natural disasters. 🇨🇦
A lot of the now rich oldest- boomers with 2 and 3 homes were put through college on federal work programs in Yellowstone Nat’l Park. Now they won’t admit that wages for labor haven’t kept pace with inflation nor will they admit they got what they call a “hand out” or give others access.
The student loan economy helped the cost of education in the US far outpace typical inflation and degrees were made compulsory for even entry level jobs. Then it was the MBA and MPA and JD degree farming. It surged up the cost of living and debt-based economy in the U.S.
Make everything about COST OF LIVING. Hurricanes, wildfires flooding ….higher insurance and property taxes. Tariffs higher cost of goods. Gut the ACA forget having health insurance.
We win HUGE IN 2026 when we always tie the insanity to the economy.
This is not accurate - police/fire services are a social contract as everyone realized the benefits - not at all socialism Without capitalism we could not afford all of this service.
Actually replacing private insurance (property insurance with FEMA, United Healthcare with Medicare For All, etc.) with a 100% public system would solve a LOT of problems, especially in the healthcare sector. It's the profit motive run amok the way it has in recent years that causes problems.
Been there & subjected to the insurance insufficiency. Giving me depreciated values of items lost when paying a premium for a high dollar amount-never reaching it.
Capitalism is billionaires offering vast sums for private firefighters to save only their homes when they destroyed the fire breaks and climate bulwarks that made this fire happen
Rich folk are confused. They still think somehow their $$ is going to save them from the horrors of climate change. Private firefighters or not, their homes will burn, their crops will fail, their livestock will starve, their homes/bunkers will flood.
and fascism is when tRump and Elmo try to score political points with misinformation during an emergency, as opposed to, I don’t know………fucking helping????🤬🤬🤬
Proper context: home/biz insurers BELIEVE IN MANMADE CLIMATE DESTRUCTION! They refuse2insure humans REBUILDING in REPETITIVE flood/fire/disaster zones! STOP FORCING NATURE2ADAPT TO YOUR DESIRE TO LIVE in mountains/ riverbank/coastal areas! U not in these zones- u have full coverage NO EXTRA COST!
Do you only drive on private roads and never eat produce from US farming subsidies, or steel from subsidised US steel industry?
Do you pay taxes towards a police force? Or schooling??
I don’t drive private roads. I eat produce from grocery stores and I don’t buy steel. I pay taxes to the gov. Just ask what you want to ask not a bunch a dumb questions.
Wonderful. So you pay into a system that spends your money on the things that are needed for a society to function well. Roads, bridges, farm subsidies, police, steel for your cars and buildings
Thank you!!! All these departments are socialism that serves the people.Insurance is what you have to pay for
“what if”and when you use it your rates go up or you get canceled.
True Story. Ben Franklin ran fire department and an insurance company. If you didn’t buy fore insurance he would show up and let your house burn. Unless you bought a policy then and there.
A government tax based public service is now socialism. You will have to explain that one to me. A community based subscription service, perhaps. But, I think you may be confused.
You're clearly the one confuse. That's like... Basic socialism. Paying taxes to have public service hospital, housing, firefighters, road maintenance, trains, busses, etc...
Capitalism is the privatisation of all those services.
You are still confused. Socialist and capitalism are two forms of economies In capitalist societies, the free market (supply and demand) determines production and pricing with little government intervention. In socialist economies, governments control production, distribution,and prices. Free market
Can you individually pay for firefighters, road crews, a full medical staff, or even a body guard? Sure, we have corporations who act as individuals, but they are regulated by the government and its agencies for public safety.We're a free market capitalist society, not socialist. That's the military
What you're discovering is that capitalism is trash and can't work alone because its workers would die without a ounce of socialism to make it survive. It still doesn't mean socialism is a capitalist thing. It goes against the very project of capitalism, free market, that has no regulation.
Again, don't confuse terms, socialism is when the government siezes means of production among other things, and it's the precursor to communism. Social democracy it's what you are looking for. Capitalism is good unless you don't wanna get paid for your work. The problem is the lack of regulation.
Again, that's socialism according to Marxist theory. A pretty irrelevant definition in modern political terms.
Words have multiple meanings. Conservatism in 2025 America is not conservatism in 1960s France or 1880s UK. Same too socialism.
BTW socialism in Latin America is the gateway to dictatorship. And that's why democrats lost among other things. And that's why Latinos in some states only vote Republicans. Keep playing with words.
You actually read that definition? It agrees with me.
And don't be silly. We've had far more conservative Latin American dictatorships than left wing ones - paranoia about socialism is definitely a factor in their creation.
The US Democrats losing was FA to do with being socialist. As they aren't.
There been while that there are no right wing dictatorships in South America, and after only left wing, very brutal ones BTW. Hey, if you like socialism by its definition, good for you. But the left won't win anymore if they don't address that properly. If not for the disaster that might be coming.
Late stage capitalism is when the fire department charges you an exorbitant fee for showing up because a private equity firm bought the entire fire department in a leveraged buyout.
That IS late stage. The UK was highly advanced in the 19th century. They workhouses and and vulture capitalism at a time when a third of the planet was still in a gifting economy.
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Then before they do anything the privatized fire department forces you to sign a bunch of paperwork, watch 3 ads from their sponsors, and put a down payment on the cost.
All while your house is in the process of burning down.
But If you had signed up for FirePrevent+ you could have skip the ads.
Canada is helping to fight the Los Angeles fires, Mexico is helping to fight the Los Angeles fires, meanwhile Donald Trump and the entire Republican party.
communism is when there's no insurance because the house is not your property and the fire department has no water in its fire hose but reports to the party secretary that the fire is extinguished 😁
No, communism is a stateless system where people cooperate like in a commune. The issue is it breaks down at large scales because you need a system to ensure resources get places they are needed, & greedy people always exist and hijack it
It works on paper. In practice, humans ain't pulling it off
I will always be and always have been a Democratic Socialist. It is because I care for my fellow citizens while I and my family also have opportunities to succeed. I am Empathetic. Saying _______first is an Apathetic, greedy way of life. I would not get along with a neighbour who thinks that way.
For sure. I do hope for a future where we can solve the problem of the greedy few hijacking the systems meant to help all, but it feels like that if we do get to that stage, we'll have evolved into a technically different species by then
mmm... very theorical discussion but i think you talk more of anarchy than communism
communism is not stateless system it's a state system where is applied the "dictatorship of the proletariat"
this means the exercise of political power is done working class as a whole, and in its own interest
the french commune in paris in 1870 is like the self-managed factories in barcelone during spanish war : anarchy system...
the best proof is that russian communists destroyed the anarchist representative system in barcelone in may 1937
for the applicability at large scale i agree 100% with you
I have always thought insurance was a scam especially in the United States. Had to pull tooth and nail for claims. Most loans require you carry insurance.
Um no. Insurance companies deny claims based upon exclusions, limitations, etc. It’s called a contract. Just because you think they should pay doesn’t mean they contractually should or must. If every claim a policyholder felt should be paid was paid, every insurance company would be insolvent.
Americans need to learn the difference between Socialism and Communism. It’s been at least 40 years of my life and no sign of progress yet. That’s why 47 luvs the uneducated.
And communism is when you're only covered, and the fire department only arrives, if you have a decent social-credit score for being a good loyal robot with no opinions whatsoever.
Capitalists response to this dilemma?
Defund the firefighters. Set up private firefighting companies that refuse to attend because it's dangerous.
Sorted
Or deny service due to some obscure technicality.
Caller: "My house is on fire"
Dispatcher: "You're not calling from the registered phone number. Page 19, subsection (c) of the agreement."
Caller: "My phone is in the house on fire. I'm at the neighbors"
Dispatcher: "We're sorry. Have a nice day"
Believe it or not, there are areas here in the U.S. that operate like this. If your subscription to the Fire Department lapses, even if it was yesterday, they don’t answer your call.
Except it isn’t. Socialism isn’t “when fire department exist”. Having access to free services like a library or a fire department has little to do with the workers relation to the means of production
It's not pure socialism, but it is a socialized program. Like our water, most of our roads, education, etc..., Democratic socialism is part of most modern democracies.
(Had to google translate, sorry for any misunderstandings)
Yes, and the fire department reflects that. They are responding way quicker when the property at risk belongs to the wealthy or a business. Not so much when it’s working class families
I'm sorry, what? You're describing the cops, there, buddy. I've never had the fire department be scared to arrive at any scene, while cops will frequently not show up in "bad" parts of town unless there's 50 of them, and sometimes not at all. Like when I lived at the Pink Palaces in San Francisco.
(The name was ironic, it was the fucking ghetto.) Cops and pizza delivery people literally refused to come, but the fire department responded just as quickly there as they do to any other neighborhood I've ever seen. The fuck you mean they respond faster to wealthy people??
Big government can pay for fire service boats that draw up water from the sea and spray on to the coastal towns and cities that have fire storms.
Small govt cannot.
And dropping sea water on coastal towns is not only NOT the best way to stop a major fire, but can DESTROY the homes and EVERYTHING in them, AND RUIN the LAND for growing anything, in one fell swoop.
Planes that scoop up water to fight fires nearly ALWAYS scoop up FRESH water, NOT SALTWATER.
That's ridiculous. Countries around the world do it without problems. Using seawater to put out fires will not destroy the soil. The salt washes away in the next rain storm.
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Maybe ...around 2 % of Trump voters have any idea what socialism is ....and have no idea how many socialist programs they participate in , r have access to .
In Denmark we pay quite a lot of tax and have free hospitals, among other things it is free to go to the doctor and to university where the students get a fee. It is still not socialism but very nice. I am happy to pay my tax.
And they've no idea that aspects of socialism is what makes the harsh realities of capitalism less problematic for those capitalism routinely screws over! Well, rump is about ready to take care of that--US capitalism is going to end just like democracy.
Socialism is when the fire department arrives.
Capitalism is when they stand there and watch it burn, because you didn't pay your last "fire department bill".
No pay? No spray. See also: Tennessee
And being a piece of shit ( Trump, Musk, and Johnson) is taking to social media and trying to politicize a natural disaster, while thousands are being evacuated as their homes burn to the ground.
And HUMANITARIANISM is when Canadians 🍁 help put out Californian fires, days after the President Elect threatens their Sovereignty with Economical Warfare.
State Farm was a coward! All the years people paid for it-they got out because they knew that they couldn’t pay one DAMN cent if anything happened 😞😞😡😡🤬🤬
Trumpism is when the firefighters couldn’t stop the fire so it is blamed on woke liberals hiring black Firefighters in blue cities and misinformation about the water supply and not on the strength of the fire or circumstances that led to the fire in the first place
As my father used to say, insurance is legal mafia. The business model is you pay us and we will see if you qualify for our help with your investment. It’s the biggest con ever.
The mafia, you pay us for your business and hard work and we might not burn you down or kill members of your family. Do you see the a difference! Crazy people didn’t stand up to this earlier!
It used to be that insurance would pay out, maybe not as much as you needed, but they did their job. That model has changed over time to be the greed and cruelty we have today.
The responsibility of that change is in the hands of decades of politicians, which ever party. A measure of a true leader towards the world, is how they treat their own people.
Climate change is costing the United States roughly $150 billion per year due to the impacts of extreme weather like hurricanes, wildfires, and floods; this figure includes damage to infrastructure, agricultural losses, and worker injuries, but does not account for loss of life or healthcare costs.
With the scale of the on-going LA disaster insurance companies will be looking for any excuse to deny claims. After all - they might miss a private jet payment.
how dose one not go bankrupt in a known fire hazard area with old dry foliage in the forest in a seven-six year pile up water diverted from reservoirs to keep a minnows population alive and cutting fire fighting budget and also selling off fire fighting equipment?
Capitalism would be if you had to pay the fire department to come to your house instead of your neighbor's which is something that totally happened in Rome. We'll get there with Elon as POTUS.
Insurance companies in California must offer coverage in wildfire-prone areas under new regulation - CBS San Francisco https://search.app/wAJFbPWhbrCmmjN57
I don't think that's accurate, capitalism is where you have insurance and replace your own stuff, communism is a state home on a dangerous estate with little choices.
Exactly what we need, moderation, research, conversation. Not extreme left and right. Humans are well balanced and supposed to settle between extremes. These memes feel Russian troll house to me, typical MO and stops proper discussion.
Most humans are well balanced. Some are crazed lunatics.
Some are vulnerable and thus being exploited by crazed lunatics.
Some are just plain selfish and greedy.
No I hadn't, just followed and clicked your link. I teach and I see the damage daily of excessive social media usage in the kids and their adults so I'll have a listen. It's something that really interests me.
The US left takes as its model the welfare state of northern Europe.
And there health, education, security are in the hands of the state and they work very well.
Food stamps are not state housing, money and childcare and you pay the most for healthcare in the world, mine is free and ill protect that, in fact I believe heavily in socialism but im not anti capitalist as it pays for it. These memes usually come from your state enemies.
The world increasingly dominated by billion-dollar corporations is a caricature of Adam Smith's capitalism.
In liberal economies, the state has increasingly been dominated by private interests.
Billionaires in key positions in the future US government are proof of this.
Absolutely we have runaway capitalism with a twinge of technofascism. What I'm wary of is sudden rejection of the system without a replacement that WORKS for the masses, not the 1%. With climate change and the build of armed forces from communist nations, there's bigger forces at play here.
Specter of communism is very well used by far right.
Like supposed "communist China" (with its billion-dollar companies), far right defends control of media and universities.
Welfare state in northern Europe works very well.
It is a model that could be used. However, there is lack of political will.
Communism gives state control of your life and income is fixed in poverty. We have tried both these systems for thousands of years so history can teach us quite a bit about of choices and options.
you seem to be sure that in capitalism there's no body and life control. That's a USA mythology. Do you have the right to chose where, and how you live based only on your "free will"?? Do you have access to all that you would you chose?
my family ran away from Stalin, I know communist experience's we had were far from optimal. However, Cuba would had a better chance if USA didn't strangle it's economy. Idk I'd chose to not starve and have a right to health care and education even if that meant I don't get to drink sugar soda.
Maybe read the meme again?
Especially as many of these homes had fire protection dropped recently because the Insurance companies were afraid of this very thing happening.
That is only true if the insurance policy specifically calls it out.
However, up until recently these homes had fire insurance for this very reason, but the insurance companies feared it would cut into their profits so they pulled it.
But asking people to move away from capitalism without a working model of what that looks like means it will become communism. Socialism crashed out economy in the 1970's so that doesn't work either. We do have lots of research showing we need a form of both systems. Likely more similar to star trek
We have a working model and have for over a century. Its called public services. They have all worked very well. Until republicans fuck it all up and then scream “see? Government sucks”. Communism is just a diff method of steering all the money to a select few. No diff than late stage capitalism.
Spot on. None of our systems work, complex system theory and Dame Dana Meadows explains why in her work from the 70's -80's and for me modern art take, Adam Curtis.
I think you misunderstand my comment. I disagree with you. Our public works systems do work. Overseen and regulated by elected govt. and paid for with tax dollars. They dont work when disingenuous people try to dismantle them for private gain.
It's unfettered capitalism holding all the levers of power that's the issue.
Where I live even domestic water supply is in the hands of private enterprise, providing worse service for higher costs. (See US Healthcare for an analogue)
It actually does. Firefighters used to only put out fires if the property owner had a plaque showing they paid that specific fire department. It became a socialized service after people realized letting it be a capitalist system caused damage to everyone
Socialism is a governmental system. Capitalism is an economic system. Neither works very well without the other. All the successful European democratic socialist governments have capitalist economies. Defining complex problems simply but wrong makes things worse.
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Good luck with that.
Then I play Russian roulette. 1st round, gun doesn’t fire.
I’m willing to pay $20k to keep the policy while I put the gun back to my head.
Do you accept $20k to renew my policy?
Let’s say grudgingly you do…
You’ve got $30k in your pocket. If the gun goes off you owe my widow $1 million.
Last chance, want to cancel the policy?
Surely you can see that some situations are so risky that it no longer makes sense to offer insurance for it?
I don’t need to play Russian roulette to survive.
I do in fact need shelter and employment. Which often can only be found in cities.
Therefore my “high risk activity” is moving to a place my employment is.
You be hard pressed to find a personality as depressingly boring and lack of luster as Zuck
INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE CANCELLING INSURANCE POLICIES !
CAN THEY DO THAT ??
This is what you voted for.
We win HUGE IN 2026 when we always tie the insanity to the economy.
So, socialism..
Socialism is cooperation and maintenance structures.
Do you pay taxes towards a police force? Or schooling??
Welcome to socialism. That’s all it is!!
Beware of charlatans who suggest it’s same as communism.
It’s the way we work in Europe - we pool taxes and buy things for the benefit of society…. like you do.
“what if”and when you use it your rates go up or you get canceled.
Privatize profits.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39516346
Capitalism is the privatisation of all those services.
Gouvernement ownership of the means of production is nationalisation.
Both are against the very fondamental of capitalism that is private property (of the means of production).
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39516346
Words have multiple meanings. Conservatism in 2025 America is not conservatism in 1960s France or 1880s UK. Same too socialism.
And don't be silly. We've had far more conservative Latin American dictatorships than left wing ones - paranoia about socialism is definitely a factor in their creation.
The US Democrats losing was FA to do with being socialist. As they aren't.
wait a min-
in the UK, first iterations of fire dept. (19th century) were private until a house burned down so bad it they had to make a municipal fire dept
its just capitalism at its finest
Dickens out front shoulda told ya.
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/from-a-leak-to-a-flood-how-corporate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Edinburgh
All while your house is in the process of burning down.
But If you had signed up for FirePrevent+ you could have skip the ads.
It’s entertaining though!
Or when private fire fighters tap into the public water during the fire for 15 hours so a billionaire can save his own strip mall.
It works on paper. In practice, humans ain't pulling it off
communism is not stateless system it's a state system where is applied the "dictatorship of the proletariat"
this means the exercise of political power is done working class as a whole, and in its own interest
the best proof is that russian communists destroyed the anarchist representative system in barcelone in may 1937
for the applicability at large scale i agree 100% with you
https://abc7news.com/post/17000-liberty-mutual-customers-california-lose-dwelling-fire-insurance-policy-heres-what-need-know/15236639/
People gotta understand these differences!
Defund the firefighters. Set up private firefighting companies that refuse to attend because it's dangerous.
Sorted
No socialism, private pay for firefighters
Miss a payment & your house burns
Caller: "My house is on fire"
Dispatcher: "You're not calling from the registered phone number. Page 19, subsection (c) of the agreement."
Caller: "My phone is in the house on fire. I'm at the neighbors"
Dispatcher: "We're sorry. Have a nice day"
Problem is ….if next door is not insured and you are it doesn’t stop your house setting on fire.
But seriously, this is spot on.
Um Estado Burguês invariavelmente se orientará para o lucro privado acima do bem comum. Exceções confirmam a regra e não a invalidam.
Yes, and the fire department reflects that. They are responding way quicker when the property at risk belongs to the wealthy or a business. Not so much when it’s working class families
Small govt cannot.
Also:
Close tax loop holes & tax havens.
Introduce wealth tax.
#carbonrationing
Planes that scoop up water to fight fires nearly ALWAYS scoop up FRESH water, NOT SALTWATER.
Which doesn't make dumping seawater onto residential areas a good idea.
They think it's the same as Communism!
Capitalism is when they stand there and watch it burn, because you didn't pay your last "fire department bill".
No pay? No spray. See also: Tennessee
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=Tennessee+firefighters+watch+house+burn
No taxpayer funded firefighters.
Private service only comes if you’re paid up
#Humanitarinism
Capitalism is when the for
Fire fighters are hired to protect wealthy peoples property
Capitalism is when insurers deny your home coverage leaving you without firefighters
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/state-farm-ad-patrick-mahomes-andy-reid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY
We have to be smarter than the fascist right wing. We have to KNOW what fascism and socialism both are.
Insurance companies in California must offer coverage in wildfire-prone areas under new regulation - CBS San Francisco https://search.app/wAJFbPWhbrCmmjN57
Already been dropped.
Some are vulnerable and thus being exploited by crazed lunatics.
Some are just plain selfish and greedy.
And there health, education, security are in the hands of the state and they work very well.
In liberal economies, the state has increasingly been dominated by private interests.
Billionaires in key positions in the future US government are proof of this.
Like supposed "communist China" (with its billion-dollar companies), far right defends control of media and universities.
Welfare state in northern Europe works very well.
It is a model that could be used. However, there is lack of political will.
the only real choice you have on capitalism is work to make someone else richer or starve
Especially as many of these homes had fire protection dropped recently because the Insurance companies were afraid of this very thing happening.
However, up until recently these homes had fire insurance for this very reason, but the insurance companies feared it would cut into their profits so they pulled it.
We all use and need socialist concepts, from schools to fire dept., from roads to the military.
Capitalism with a legal duty toward rigerous social responsibility is an outstanding model.
“But it’ll never work.”
Nonsense. Look at Denmark et al. Wealthy states with exquisite public services.
It's unfettered capitalism holding all the levers of power that's the issue.
Where I live even domestic water supply is in the hands of private enterprise, providing worse service for higher costs. (See US Healthcare for an analogue)
The fire department has nothing to do w our economic system ffs.