People need to stop using being autistic as an excuse for being an arsehole. It just embeds misleading stereotypes. Yes, being autistic can mean you find social interactions difficult, I know I can. It doesn't mean you default to walking around with a sock on your c**k. www.lbc.co.uk/news/gregg-w... - ThreadSky

danielsohege.bsky.social • 104 days ago

People need to stop using being autistic as an excuse for being an arsehole. It just embeds misleading stereotypes.
Yes, being autistic can mean you find social interactions difficult, I know I can.
It doesn't mean you default to walking around with a sock on your c**k.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/gregg-wallace-dropped-autism-charity-more-people-come-forward/

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annmemmott.bsky.social•104 days ago

Well said. I did wonder how long it would be before someone tried to excuse appalling conduct towards women as a sign of autism. Absolutely not.

bertch313.bsky.social•104 days ago

It's not autism that causes people to act out

It's trauma

Autism is traumatic. This is how they are related.

I have no choice but to be a dick sometimes because if how I was treated and where I'm at in my recovery

I still do my best to aim it UP
like I was taught by my favorite comedians

hughster.bsky.social•104 days ago

People do this with Musk all the time and it's so frustrating.

grahameg6mzk.bsky.social•104 days ago

So far I’ve not heard of any complaints about his sexualised behaviour toward men. Makes it sound a personal choice about how he behaves toward women.

bettinastruff.bsky.social•104 days ago

Yes, I was initially quite encouraged when Musk told us he's autistic.

Now I'm just embarrassed because being autistic and being an absolute dick are completely different things.

Conflating the two in any way is a mistake and an insult to most autistic people.

recombobulating.bsky.social•104 days ago

It is privilege that enables and encourages this behaviour. Not disability.

pmcavoy.bsky.social•104 days ago

though I do know an autistic person who did appear with sock on his cock....
didn't assume it was to do with autism though.

cdconnor.bsky.social•104 days ago

Agree about creating misleading stereotypes here, also there is internalised ableism going on with his own views about self-id & dx. Got my own concerns about that "friend" and there handling of there "friend's" inappropriateness.

danwoody.bsky.social•104 days ago

Poor Ggreg, seems he's the real victim here and not just looking for any excuse to protect his income regardless of the collateral damage he may cause. I was last so moved when I discovered tragic Tiger Woods wasn't a morally bankrupt shagger but a blameless casualty tortured by sex addiction

katellis37.bsky.social•104 days ago

Ggreg 😂

the-real-drrock.bsky.social•104 days ago

I doubt he has autism, sociopath maybe, but social inappropriateness ≠ social awkwardness.
It's probably because of our zero consequence society though. He does/says something inappropriate, nothing happens... so he does something slightly more inappropriate, and so on...

recombobulating.bsky.social•104 days ago

It's privilege.

eledwards.bsky.social•104 days ago

It’s becoming a horribly predictable trope- eg the timing of Neil Gaiman’s identification as autistic just preceded publication of interviews making multiple allegations against him. It’s also deeply offensive to the larger number of autistic
people who are the survivors/victims of SA

alimovesto.bsky.social•104 days ago

It makes me so upset reading things like this. My husband and eldest son are autistic, and they would rather die than behave like Greg Wallace.

annmemmott.bsky.social•104 days ago

Quite. After decades working with and for autistic people of all genders and ages, I have never even once been made to feel unsafe with sexualised behaviour of that type.
Any sort of person *can* be a predator. It's nothing to do with being autistic.

alphamelkyway.bsky.social•104 days ago

Super preschoolers in place of super predation

Premeditated

Non premeditated

Spur of the moment

dominikanow.bsky.social•104 days ago

'he passed it down to his son' ☠️

dominikanow.bsky.social•104 days ago

Makes autism sounds like some kind of venereal disease, I mean.

danielwendler.com•104 days ago

#Autism means you might misunderstand what someone is feeling. Being a jerk means you don't care what someone is feeling. They are not at all the same (and in fact, most autistic people I know care deeply about others!)

adstanley.bsky.social•104 days ago

These people just make my life as an autistic woman harder. Yes, I screw up, but most people know the difference between that and being a jerk. But the jerks want permission to trample over boundaries, including mine.

mikegc.bsky.social•104 days ago

Odd, I have a good friend who has a (late in life) diagnosis of autism.
He’s never behaved like a knobhead

emmavj.bsky.social•104 days ago

I thought it was because he was working class - another defence he’s trotted out

danielsohege.bsky.social•104 days ago

I missed that. How?

buildingisfun.bsky.social•104 days ago

Wtf!

simonfrcox.bsky.social•103 days ago

oh but anonymous friend of man who hasn’t got an autism diagnosis knows that “a light filter when it comes to sex … is common in people on the spectrum.” ugh

kimlam.bsky.social•104 days ago

The more we try to explain away behaviour the less of a responsibility people feel to behave in socially acceptable ways. Insulting to people who struggle daily to interpret social cues and put in the effort to ‘fit in.’

josafiend.bsky.social•104 days ago

Neurodivergence is a reason but never an excuse. I’ve opened my mouth and my autistic honesty and bluntness has fallen out plenty of times, but I’m always accountable for what I do. An autistic arsehole is still an arsehole.

alphamelkyway.bsky.social•104 days ago

ADHD

josafiend.bsky.social•104 days ago

Yes, that too.

neurodivergent07.bsky.social•104 days ago

The vast majority of neurodivergent people will learn that there are some ways of behaving which just aren't appropriate and will stop doing them right away. Our heightened sense of justice will always mean that we won't ever want to be a sex pest. Hiding behind ignorant stereotype makes it worse.

paullomax.co.uk•104 days ago

He probably has ADHD (which over indexes for people whose job requires them to chat bollocks to a camera without a script) but that is also not an excuse…

recombobulating.bsky.social•104 days ago

The rate of both autism and ADHD in prisons is at least 10x higher than in the general population.

But it only gets brought up as a defense for the most privileged of white men. Everyone else just gets dismissed and ignored.

bertch313.bsky.social•104 days ago

I've made significant effort to discuss these things in adult areas of the internet that I know incarcerated men are watching

bertch313.bsky.social•104 days ago

If any of them realize they have behavioral health disorders, without doctors, it's likely in part due to discussions I had online in 2017-21 or other posts I've made since trying to free all workers mentally

wohyeahwohyeah.bsky.social•104 days ago

If anything, being autistic makes you more inhibited when it comes to physical stuff like that.

neurodivergent07.bsky.social•104 days ago

I think that working for the BBC makes you a mysoginistic predatory dickhead actually. I know far more male BBC employees who do that sort of thing than I know autistic men. What do you mean, "You can't make sweeping statements like that!"...

quasequase.bsky.social•104 days ago

Ok he may be austistic, but he is ALSO disgusting.

millswest.bsky.social•102 days ago

Funny how the ‘not recognising social cues’ is usually around misogyny. No autistic people I know have this specificity.

hmann07.bsky.social•104 days ago

Parts of the spectrum bring a hyperselfawarness. As soon as this behaviour was flagged as inappropriate it would've triggered extreme feelings of shame and self-recrimination.

recombobulating.bsky.social•104 days ago

Privilege allows people to redirect that feeling into blame and hatred of the Other rather than learning healthier ways of dealing with it. That is a massive massive problem for society.

alphamelkyway.bsky.social•104 days ago

There is no otras

nettekin.bsky.social•104 days ago

Irrespective of whether he is autistic (I'm not convinced) why did no one in the production teams of these programmes tell him to shut up? Seems like yet another example of the BBC protecting it's golden goose*
* or giant 🐓

drpaulitious.bsky.social•104 days ago

Before asking *why* no-one did, first establish *that* no-one did.

mckjerral.bsky.social•104 days ago

As a collective they didn't, because he was still on air and still behaving badly. If individuals did speak up then it's an institutional failing.

drpaulitious.bsky.social•104 days ago

Now, read my post again, bearing in mind that "if individuals" in your reply.

mckjerral.bsky.social•104 days ago

Not everyone is arguing with you 🤷🏻‍♂️

drpaulitious.bsky.social•104 days ago

Old habits, eh? Sorry.

fionaskywalker.bsky.social•104 days ago

Because men don't call each other out, and women saying they're uncomfortable are just being hysterical

andraswf.bsky.social•104 days ago

He's just an arsehole who has been enabled all his life

deliciouslegacy.bsky.social•104 days ago

He isn't even a "talent" i just don't get why he was protected fornso many years. Awful presenter nobody liked him and no knowledge of cooking he was just a dodgy greengrocer...!

andraswf.bsky.social•104 days ago

There's an inherent difference between having difficulty manoeuvring social cues and behaving like a 1970s light entertainer around women

chompmancobra.bsky.social•104 days ago

That giant prick co founder of Brewdog went shopping for an autism diagnosis after some of his appalling workplace behaviour came out.

Terrible people trying to use it as a get out of jail free card and not caring if they stigmatise genuine autists (who all manage not to harass in the workplace)

firehorsep.bsky.social•104 days ago

See also Musk.

deliciouslegacy.bsky.social•104 days ago

Bloody hell. He just keeps on doing utterly prickish moves...!

tracyh.bsky.social•104 days ago

Being autistic has nothing to do with this kind of behaviour.
Who is telling these terrible men to use this as an excuse?

sparksbet.bsky.social•104 days ago

Unfortunately, it plays right into our society's pernicious stereotypes and infantilisation of autistic people.

mandeville24.bsky.social•104 days ago

He will be saying next that Jimmy Saville was misunderstood!!!!!

all-a-mort.bsky.social•104 days ago

I'm sure "Jimmy Saville was on the spectrum" is probably something they'll float soon enough, when Jimmy Saville should have been on the fscking sex offenders register, naughty list and Satan's extra attention proper bad dudes list instead.

simonknight100.bsky.social•104 days ago

There also seems to be a creeping trend of referring to someone being autistic or having learning difficulties/disabilities as a footnote to appalling crimes, often against women. I don’t understand why journalists would see this in need of reporting, unless it is to infer some causal relationship.

ka81.bsky.social•104 days ago

It's a shit causal relationship that has zero merit and is outright insulting tbh. @simonknight100.bsky.social

simonknight100.bsky.social•104 days ago

It’s bad isn’t it.

ka81.bsky.social•104 days ago

It makes me livid @simonknight100.bsky.social no excuse for shit behaviour autistic or not. But they all seem to aquire autism conviently after accusations come out. It's hurtful narrative autistics can't behave and should be excused. No they shouldn't.

It hurts all autistics this.

obrienp.bsky.social•104 days ago

An autism charity cut ties with Gregg Wallace after more people came forward with allegations against him.
A CHARITY DROPPED HIM!

He diagnosed himself with autism!
He clearly missed a few diagnoses.
Sociopath, sexual predator, borderline personality disorder, and all-around dirt bag!

rebeccathomas53.bsky.social•104 days ago

In my experience, autism makes you more vulnerable to sex pests, than likely to be one

alismith269.bsky.social•104 days ago

🎯

rebeccathomas53.bsky.social•104 days ago

As a much younger, undiagnosed woman, I would latch onto (and 'get off with') men who paid attention to me... Looking back, I realise that sex felt good, and it was much simpler than talking or socialising in a group. And that those blokes probably couldn't believe their luck!

rebeccathomas53.bsky.social•104 days ago

I think that's different... I hope it is

ka81.bsky.social•104 days ago

Really annoys me this cause I've seen this a few times people who never talked about themselves being autistic before, suddenly claiming post their terrible behaviour their autistic with no diagnosis or self diagnosis previously. Well, either way, it's no excuse at all.

littlemissskittles.bsky.social•104 days ago

My ex-boyfriend did exactly this to cover for his abuse during our relationship. Claimed he couldn't help the damage he was doing to me due to autism (when there was no mention of it before) as if it was an foolproof get-out-of-jail-free card. Sadly a lot of people around us bought it at the time.

ka81.bsky.social•104 days ago

Yeah autistic here too. Bollocks.
He get a diagnosis?

Yeah...even if he did then he was just a autistic twat not a neurotypical twat. Abuse is abuse. No excuses.

littlemissskittles.bsky.social•104 days ago

I'm not sure if he ever did, to be honest. And truth be told, even if he did, I couldn't be sure if it was genuine or if he was just sharp enough to portray it convincingly enough to the assessor to get the result he wanted. That guy was dangerously smart and manipulative with it.

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