1000% agreed. we hear a lot of screaming about medicare fraud but we don't hear how it is the industries like pharma (and other medical industries) that are getting rich from it ...
I’m glad we can all come together and shit on Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan at the same time. They both have done immeasurable harm to our society by opening up new avenues of control for big money. The third way is not the way. Trickle down economics is a lie.
Both were bad and both deserve blame but it doesn't need to be litigated now. Let's focus on our agreement that both were mistakes that we should correct.
I respectfully disagree. The path back to power is to follow the FDR playbook. I'd take Bill Clinton in a nanosecond over what we have now, but let's also be honest about the past -- and the abject failure of the current leadership to protect the republic and the constitution.
Yesssss! This is one of my hugest issues of the last ten years… if you’re f’ing doctor needs to hear from you about the latest drug and how many softball games you now play in slow motion, then something is wrong!
I’m talking about the ads, just like smoking or alcohol ads, very coercive, tricks ppl. Btw, loved Bendtner, was fun watching him play and the memes were great.
Drug ads are such an insane concept to me. Things regular people know absolutely nothing about but we saw two old people in a bath tub watching the sunset in a field and we are like. Fuck ya. Give me those
Funny you say that. I was just thinking how nice it is not to hear pharma commercials on Canadian television. They certainly want you to do an Internet search.
It was one of the biggest surprises to me coming from Britain years ago, where the pharmaceutical companies can't advertise, just how much they advertise here. Needs to be banned. Your doctor should be the only one to tell you what you need medically.
They can easily fill those slots with Replacement windows, herbal remedies for every possible ailment, tape that seals holes in boats, and magic cookware.
There was a time, back when monopolies were illegal. Now it seems like a figment of imagination as we have to listen to the ignorant tells us how hard billionaires worked to get where they got. Funny, I've never met anyone with vast wealth that didn't shit on a lot of people getting there
It is no wonder they charge us ten times more than any other country, they spend MILLIONS on all those damn ads. I like Farxiga’s; it doesn’t even give a clue what it’s for, it just tells us to ask our doctors about it. 🤡
But do watch out for the side effects or “allergic reactions—skin rash, itching, hives, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, or throat. Dehydration—increased thirst, dry mouth, feeling faint or lightheaded, headache, dark yellow or brown urine”. But you won’t have kidney disease! 🙄
Agree...there's a new ad for a new drug everyday, which only serves to drive demand from desperate patients who may not even need them. Such a waste...put the money into research and prevention.
I only found out that US runs pharma ads. I couldn't believe it at first. Its despicable. Your ENTIRE HEALTH SYSTEM are literally shaking you upside down for the last of the coins in your pockets.
Those of us who know this and say it when the profiteering garbage is blaring from someone’s TeeVee are treated like we have three heads. Truly. We’ve not only allowed this to go on, but we’ve happily been brainwashed into believing it’s normal. “Ask your doctor so you can buy this, it’s purple!”
I honestly don't mean this to be offensive but it seems like the brainwashing of US citizens has been going on for YEARS across the board. I was slackjawed watching youtube ads on pharma. I don't understand the blind patriotism
So most of my loved ones and friends and acquaintances numb themselves continually with fanatic, near-religious devotion to brands and products and cliques and team and tribes like the Kansas City Chiefs or the Baptist Church or Pepsi or Kanye West or Taylor Swift…
No, I don’t get offended at obvious conclusions about what’s in front of all of us, generally. Anybody arguing that the unbridled demand for a thought, time, and heart-free populace that will buy more and more and more to try to fill the gaping hole inside themselves, all to prop up the stock market
…It’s not that they disagree that it’s obviously predatory crap, WHEN they can. They’re not ALLOWED to think, here. There’s no time or money for that. Rush, you’re late, the bill is higher again. We don’t know how we can afford go to a doctor when we are sick, here, while insured, in between work.
So many of my neighbors just flat do not have the time left after working job after benefit-free job, just so they can barely make ends meet, to even THINK about what was in front of their faces this whole time…
The ads don’t help - and in my experience, lead to unhelpful conversations with the doctor - and they mainly serve to give the patient the illusion of choice and control, hopefully mitigating the horror of having your claim rejected 35% of the time (90% if you’re on AI Medicare).
Those fatcats be busy dodging responsibility, churning out 'claim denied', thinking up ways to advertise for your dimes in the back of your couch cushions and inventing policies to skirt lawsuits and fabricating coverups. WAY TOO BUSY to care ...
There’s a management concept called FOSIWID (the function of the system is what it does). If your healthcare system hurts more people than it helps, that’s its function. If its main focus is value extraction for shareholders, that’s its function.
I used to think banning commercials was the way to go BUT now, given how pharmacy benefit managers incentivize or punish MDs prescribing certain meds, don’t know that I trust the doctors to “tell me what’s right for me” rather than being concerned about their pocketbook.
I have read many times that those ads are the biggest expense in Big Pharma, not drug research. For one thing, research and development is done through universities and government grants. Direct advertising to consumers is unwarranted since most people won't know practical pharmacology.
Right, but Big Pharma owns your colleagues, so it seems like a difficult avenue to pursue. How can members of the government take on Big Pharma when they are paid ludicrous amounts of money?
I have been thinking along those same thoughts for years !! With ads, Pharma pretty much dictates what drugs to push ( for profit not health) and a means of punishing health professionals who don’t go along
How about insurance ads also? State Farm alone spends $600 million on ads, Geico and Progressive close to a billion and guess who gets to pay that cost?
Have you listened to the ads, tho'? I appreciate knowing that a drug that can end a rash could kill a person (why can a drug for a rash kill a person - in the US?)!!
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It is one of the reasons I do not go to doctors unless an emergency! They target an issue, prescribe Rx and 5 more Rx to counter the issues primary Rx brings! Then 10 years down the line: oh no! That drug causes cancer!
I have spent 30 years working with my doctors to find a combination of drugs that basically work and the side effects are as minimal as possible. I have compared all my meds to see which have similar side effects and worked with my doctors to fine different meds so I don't have stacking side effects
My dad was a pharmacist & graduated from UT Memphis right about the same time penicillin was marketed as THE DRUG! I’m oldest of 5. All but the youngest have experienced MRSA infections that threatened a limb. We all are pretty much antibiotic resistant now. I have trust issues re “new drug” 🤷🏻♀️
Oh wow, I didn't realize about the newer drugs o_0 When Olestra first came out I was in high school and immediately went EIW NO when the commercials came out. Someone had a bag of Doritos that used that stuff and it literally said 'may cause anal leakage' and I was like nope nope nope.
I think the insurance, pharmaceutical, etc... companies should be treated as people under Citizens United and charged with terrorism against their customers. And throw in the 8th amendment to boot
That would be the greatest thing! We are so sick of watching endless drug ads on TV! They are endless, and they are incredibly annoying! Who watches them and then goes to a doctor and asks if they can take them? They are useless and so repetitive. Get rid of them please, Congresswoman Omar!
Tying healthcare to work is how they've tied us to underpaying, abusive workplaces, and many in the government are loathe to get rid of the poor system we have. When preexisting conditions were excluded from new insurance plans, anyone with health issues truly could not switch jobs without trouble.
We know, and the game was rigged against you, and the useless, greedy middlemen/insurers/lobbyists want to keep it that way. Many of us, with all our hearts, want you to be able to change this, among other things, for your country.
Thank you. I'm sorry that these asshats are targeting Canada, who was our closest ally, nationally our cousin, until they decided to trash that relationship to please Putin. Keep boycotting, many of us in the States are, too. Best wishes to you.
Lots of us are feeling your pain, which has to be considerable, and we're looking forward to a future where we're best friends again. When you hear our anger, it's not you we hate.
You’re fucking right here. It’s the only way to get cack at this vile putrid pig trump. Kick him the balls by holding back spending on anything American
Hold in here. That would break the cycle of fat food ad, weight loss ad, gambling ad then back to fast food ad. Corporate America would be just pissed about your suggestion
But it’s your doctor’s job to discuss the risks and side effects of any medication. If he didn’t think the benefits outweighed the risks significantly he’d never have suggested it. The drug ads are not your friend.
Absolutely! And while we’re banning ads, many countries don’t allow advertising directly to children, because they are vulnerable to exploitation. Let’s try that.
There's way too much pharma being promoted by non-doctors for ailments that in many cases can be mitigated by lifestyle changes.
If you're drinking carbonated drinks and living on Prilosec, I have news...
And there's another problem too 1/2
All these meds end up in the water system. Some cannot be removed or dissipated.
That means they get into our food, our drinking water, etc. So we're taking all these meds shed into the waterways and who knows that that does to us.
We overuse meds, imo.
I remember when pharma ads were BANNED, so only the doctors were making the best medication choices for their patients. But after Reagan decimated the FDA and installed Big Pharma there, the relentless assault from their ads ensued. We were far better off in the healthcare space without these ads.
Direct to consumer advertising has definitely changed the equation. In some cases, it does work to educate people to engage with their HCPs, yet it does not come with out its detriments.
And quit having sponsors and ads during the evening news Stick to relevant events from journalist's with integrity, and only factual information that the voters need to hear. No hype, no hysteria, no opinions, no fear mongering. Just the news. Not for nothing, but that newscast would OWN the news.✨
Healthcare is meant to be a process of the best informed decisions. If one is unable to fully understand their health, they should be assured they live in a society where the people in healthcare have the education and information they need. Pharma ads cause confusion and open paths for abuse.
It would be great if our society starts working on prevention instead of trying to medicate the problem. Which is true for more than just health in this country (eg flooding)
ABSOLUTELY. I grew up never once seeing any TV commercial for a prescription drug. Now it's just about every other commercial is pushing some drug like it's candy. There's a drug to "cure" every mental issue imaginable, and the large majority of people who take them DO NOT NEED THEM.
The late 90s. I was working at a drug store at the time. The first ad I recall was Claritin which was a prescription at the time. The ads didn’t clearly state what it was for and people came in asking for it…without knowing what it was or why they might need it. Depressing.
I’m all for people being involved in their own health care decisions but this is ridiculous. That’s like practicing medicine without a license. (Or knowledge
Or common sense)
I agree, but it is funny to see the disclaimers, always longer than the selling points, that warn of side-effects infinitely worse than the condition the drug is purported to treat.
WELCOME TO TRUMP'S UNITED STATES OF CORRUPTION...! And....Before trump and musk seize the money in your bank account you might want to keep only the bare minimum in it and bring the rest home.....
No matter my feelings about Pharma ads I bet that would fail a 1st Amendment test. But I encourage some congress person to introduce a bill to do it. At least would get people on record and might be one of things grassroots MAGA and left agree. Suspect lobbying would make legislature uncomfortable
The ads also put health care providers in a compromised position when patients come in thinking a specific drug should be prescribed when it may very well make no sense.
Like we used to. But I'm not sure advertising to consumers has much influence as they don't make decisions on prescriptions. I don't see an ad for a medication and tell my dr to prescribe it. The lobbying of Big Pharma is more of an issue, as is the pricing model esp with insurance companies.
A 2017 study in Medical Care found that 7% of patients specifically requested an advertised drug, and about 19% asked their doctor about a general condition after seeing an ad.
I also believe that advertising is part of the whole 'healthcare = industrial complex' reality. As is the rejection of capping prices of prescription drugs.
Knowing that this is big biz makes me distrust the advice of my own healthcare workers.
The point of the commercials is for people with those conditions ask their doctor about replacing their cheap generic drug for something with just enough changes to it to justify a new patent and a massive price tag.
Although I can always tell when the election cycle kicks in or is over... only political ads outrun Pharma - maybe we should only have publicly funded elections with a 6 week election cycle and get rid of Citizens United? Or ban dark and billionaires from buying our elections?
Absolutely. Except now it's illegal in many places for public health to promote vaccines, and Big Pharma might be the only ones allowed to educate the public on their products.
Anytime I see an ad for pharma etc., I think... They must be doing really well, financially, to be able to place so many ads on TV. No wonder they cost so much.
Just like Canada.
No booze
No tobacco products
No cannabis ads
No Pharma ads
No gambling ads
No firearms
No pesticides
No credit ads
No therapeutic ads
I'm sure there's more.
I visit family in the US regularly from a nation with free(ish) medical care. I'm always astonished by the amount of TV advertising for drugs, health insurance schemes and ambulance-chasing law firms. This, while health levels in the US continue to fall in comparison to other nations.
Big pharma spends 18b a year on advertising the second biggest ad spending industry , the biggest is retail 100b per yr , consumers pay in the long run
Thank You I counted. 1 1hr program there were 8 pharmaceutical ads. Not all were for the same drug.Statistic that only 6% of people ask a Dr for a drug seen on TV. 31% of the time a Dr will prescribe the asked 4 drug.
Just adding to the cost Americans pay 4 drugs.We pay more than any country.
And when they say lowering drug prices will affect their research and development. How many billions are they wasting on these stupid ads? Put that back into R&D.
Every time I travel for work and am forced to watch any amount of cable it baffles me that basically every commercial is a drug recommended by all doctors in my local area
How would we ever find out about the latest and greatest drug whose side effects often include death that treat very specific conditions that no one else has?
Our doctors?
Other healthcare providers?
Unless they’re getting a kickback they often don’t pay attention.
Those clowns are linking 340b to everything under the sun to get Nebraska Senators to vote against the bill. I'm pissed this is a tax write-off for them.
always thought so myself. Although it's entertaining to me, a "read the small print" gal to note that so many of the biologicals hv a low rate of success & high rate of death or suicidal ideation among patients.
Yes, when big pharma is the only one advertising at the Superbowl, as they were a few years ago, it tells you who has the money. People see the ads and think that drug will fix them and get mad at Dr. when they will not prescribe the drug
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how sick is that exactly?
also, if another country is so horrible, why would you move here and try to make it JUST LIKE THE OLD COUNTRY?
There wouldn’t be any scares.
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And now there’s a new pill that does that, too.
Don’t you know women, in particular, are all diagnosable, if they talk about the unbearable pain and trauma and misogyny, in public?
You can pay somebody for that, too
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2008
under
GW Bush (The FOOL}
401 k lost 37%
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in disarray
Fascist need
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Security
WE
have to keep US either in line or dead.
Fight them with every breath.
Cheering you on to get there, from Canada.
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I told him no, because - and I rattled off the side-effects (including DEATH).
If it hadn't been for the commercial I would never have known the negative side effects.
I think it would make an even bigger difference though if we got with the rest of the world and offered free universal health care.
SALAAM
Side effect- *may cause diarrhea*
Ad- *buy our drug to help prevent diarrhea*
Besides I'm tired of the litigious ads playing CYA with all the side effects, etc.
Pharma ads are the modern day cigarette ads and it's time for them to go...
If you're drinking carbonated drinks and living on Prilosec, I have news...
And there's another problem too 1/2
That means they get into our food, our drinking water, etc. So we're taking all these meds shed into the waterways and who knows that that does to us.
We overuse meds, imo.
https://youtu.be/da0EUKh-8cE?si=EgNuTqlbvOakjBfO
Penmenvy (meningococcal groups A, B, C, W, and Y vaccine) Lyophilized Powder for Injection
Vimkunya (chikungunya vaccine, recombinant) Injection
Merilog (insulin aspart-szjj) Injection
Ospomyv (denosumab-dssb) Injection
Xbryk (denosumab-dssb) Injection
Or common sense)
When the ads disappear, so does the pressure to ask your doctor about the latest overpriced miracle.
Maybe health decisions should be guided by science, not sales quotas.
#BanPharmaAds
A 2017 study in Medical Care found that 7% of patients specifically requested an advertised drug, and about 19% asked their doctor about a general condition after seeing an ad.
I also believe that advertising is part of the whole 'healthcare = industrial complex' reality. As is the rejection of capping prices of prescription drugs.
Knowing that this is big biz makes me distrust the advice of my own healthcare workers.
Not good.
Get lobbyists out of Washington. End Citizens United and then maybe you’ll be able to get Pharma ads banned.
“Talk to your doctor about…”
No booze
No tobacco products
No cannabis ads
No Pharma ads
No gambling ads
No firearms
No pesticides
No credit ads
No therapeutic ads
I'm sure there's more.
But maybe, just for the short term, we can focus on the dictatorship that has taken over America.
Then maybe work on women's rights, LGBTQIA + rights, healthcare and peace. Here and around the world.
Then correct the many things wrong with our pharma marketing.
Just adding to the cost Americans pay 4 drugs.We pay more than any country.
Same goes with attorney advertising, by the way.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/medications/do-not-get-sold-on-drug-advertising
Our doctors?
Other healthcare providers?
Unless they’re getting a kickback they often don’t pay attention.
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