Eurg- I think this is really complex guys. I don’t think the 52% of women Trump voters hate women. A lot of these women would have voted the dems in the past. When you couple disinformation against a weak government the other side is gunna win. Some people think some issues are more important.
You’re right - to us it isn’t logical at all. All the atrocities you mention was pandered as misinformation itself. So many people do not know how to fact check. They are just not educated enough.
When you couple those two things a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, 34 felony, adjudicated segs offender winning seems logical to you? Really ? Please help me with what disinformation and weak government you speak of? Like I'm asking a legitimate question. 1/2
2/2 How does any woman not hear information and not fact check everything herself? How does any woman become so disgusted in a "weak" government that she is literally willing to sentence herself and all of her female descendants to a life of submission and control. How does any woman....?
That is the golden question! Too many people have 0 fact checking and research skills. Finding the truth has become harder. They simply *believe* he will make their lives better.
I honestly think it's just a lack of motivation. I really think they don't care and thank some unnamed deity that my grandmother and mother didn't feel the same way. I acknowledge that as a white woman I've lived a far more privileged life than my marginalized peers 1/?
Yeah it’s that as well. It’s a number of things, I think hence why I said it’s complex. I do feel for our fellow Americans - I send you strength. Your children and grandchildren are lucky to have you - you will educate them well 🥰
That being said in my 57 years I've lived a fairly independent life. I've always been able to do what I wanted without a man. My mother was the first female railroad engineer for Burlington Northern in Vancouver WA in the mid 70's
Well, if they didn't rape us& get away w/it 90% of the time, or sexually abuse is when we're minors, tell us what to do with our own minds & internal organs like they know anything about any of that 1/2
if we weren't raised to constantly be aware just by virtue of our existence we are constant targets for some kind of violence can be really exhausting & unless they're gay or trans or even seem that way MEN WILL NEVER GET WHAT IT MEANS TO BE FEMALE... Well maybe we'd like them more.Just sayin' 😁 2/2
Don't... 🥺 it's like I never knew how many ppl could be so full of that much hate against that many ppl and that difference was something so focused upon as a bad thing rather than something to be interested and excited by 😔
The orange one reigns Supreme because people like my 93 year old mother in law hates women. She just started voting republican when he ran against Hillary.
There is a book titled Tripping the Prom Queen that I recommend all women to read.
Women see other women as competition and because we've been raised to view being competitive as unladylike or unattractive women tend to be quiet or secretive about that competition which turns it toxic.
You know, as kid I was relieved we didn't have proms in the UK, & I totally empathised with Carrie. Prom culture encouraged jealousy & now it's here. Whoopdidoo!
BUT, the synopsis insinuates the different ones are at fault. Sorry no, when the popular girls ganged up they did me a lifetime's damage.
Oh honey, that is WW to a T, & why they voted for that broke lech three elections running. My working theory is that WW who have no clue of the extent of their internalized misogyny, look at a woman going for the top spot and say, “If it can’t me me, I will do all I can to make sure it isn’t thee.”
Women have been taught to “hate” other women by the patriarchy. So instead of fighting that, we fight each other. Most women’s internalized misogyny is so deeply ingrained we don’t even realize it. #realtalk
“…women themselves absorb and transmit misogynistic values, just as men do. This is not a tidy world of tyrannical men and victimized women, but a messier realm of oppressive social customs adhered to by men and women alike.”
Half the Sky by Nicholas Kristoff and Sheryl WuDunn
As a fellow Texan, I already knew how much women hated other women. The internalized misogyny is pervasive. It starts in the home where fathers may love their daughters but have low expectations. It is boosted by the church. Sad - just sad
Every time a woman over 40 walked into the store she'd stride STRAIGHT PAST my female coworkers and seek out a man, because, if THEY didn't know anything about what they were in for, surely no woman could.
Tearing each other apart helps the patriarchy. We've got dumb women, too, and we haven't learned how to corral them. Proximity to power will do it every time.
In my opinion, its the less privileged fighting for the approval of the privileged. (As any less privileged group does)
Most women throw another under the bus for approval/satisfaction of men
Everything comes down to empathy - if you can't/won't imagine yourself in someone else's situation it's far easier to disregard their feeling or value as a human. The world at large could do with more empathy and introspection.
Can you imagine how Usha Vance can live with herself or wake up to her racist, woman hater husband! He actually said, "How can we force women to stay pregnant!" How does a Yale graduate get to that area in life where she can justify a husband that talks like that!
No idea, honestly. Either she's a cultist too, or what he says in home life is different from what he says in public and she's as much of a cynic as him for believing that's OK. The willingness of that whole mob to say anything for personal gain is beyond my comprehension.
It feels like we got stabbed in the back!! How could women sell us out? Do they not realize that they sold their rights and freedom away? To someone who hates women
Let's just hope Cheeto and his boyfriends Musk and Vance have too many obstacles to remember to take away our rights! Maybe every woman should have watched handmaid tales!
Not all white women. Only those who are of the patriarchy & subservient to their husbands, usually because that's dictated to them to be so, in the Bible.
I tried telling people and they thought I was being dramatic or watched too much TV. They thought that the economy would be worse. And when I would explain the differences in plans, they said oh the economy is always better under Republicans 🙄
People are starting to see it now!! They are starting to realize that he will be going after their Healthcare, Social Security, their children's IEP, for special needs children, did they think they were going to be safe when he has been ranting about deporting illegal immigrants?He is Hitler again
Are you serious, reproductive rights!! Women are dying because they cannot get medical care when having a miscarriage?? If a woman requires a abortion after a rape.
A woman can only get pregnant once, a man can get hundreds of women pregnant! Maybe we need laws to regulate men!!
I worked in a male dominated profession, some of the few women there were backstabbers. Eventually I realised the infighting was to be held in better regard by entitled managers. It's encouraged! ...because if we'd united, they'd have had to pay us the same as our male colleagues. It's systematic.
It all starts in our schools. Girls are allowed to be catty and mean with each other. It is the norm and expected. No one is teaching girls how to get along from a young age.
As a woman- I am constantly surprised by women who vote against their own self interests or those of their daughters, granddaughters, friends, etc. it feels like there is some internalized misogyny that should really be addressed.
Have you seen the exit polls? It's us it's white women. It's 2024 if you are still in a relationship with a man that controls you so bad you can't go into a completely private voting booth and do what you need to for your country frankly well then you need to go to shelter before it's too late.
I’ve worked in shelters with abused women… the fear, the threat is real… and that control will intensify under sex offender Trump. That was/is part of the plan. To shut women up. If you’re only ever fed fear, lies and bs you don’t trust anyone, especially not yourself.
It's not that I'm unfamiliar with DV I was a victim in a shelter. Hence my advice is to get out before it's too late. Thank you for your input. I do agree with you.
Hate for the sake of being whatever gender is just wrong, simple yes? Hate, dislike, disapprove, fine... but put at least a neuron to use and come up with a rational reason for it, not just " 'cause" that just stupid
It's a shame though. My husband is a good man. He doesn't hate women. He has such respect for them, their opinions and even was taught chivalry. Believe it or not. I could only hope other real men are truly the same as him.
Old joke: man goes 2fishmonger to buy lobsters,sees two tanks.One has a lid on it,the other doesn’t.Man asks fishmonger what the difference is. Fish monger says,”the covered tank is full of males,who are so rambunctious,they’d all climb out.The other tank is full of females:they keep each other down
I tried to think of something meaningful to say like, "Oh no, women don't hate women," and I honestly couldn't come up with anything. Do women hate other women? Sometimes. I think more they were influenced by their political party, their churches, or whatever other echo-chamber they were living in.
Our whole world hates women. Women who hate other women are just fitting in. Our culture says that to be female is degrading. The phrase, "like a girl" being just one example of casual misogyny rampant in our culture. Women aren't allowed to be fully human.
Watching AOC spreading lies and more lies on MSNBC against Tulsi Gabbard, live TV, calling her everything but a white woman makes me wonder why women are supposedly marginalized. Hate has no place in society, but it's there.
“…women themselves absorb and transmit misogynistic values, just as men do. This is not a tidy world of tyrannical men and victimized women, but a messier realm of oppressive social customs adhered to by men and women alike.”
Half the Sky by Nicholas Kristoff and Sheryl WuDunn
So true in my career and also socially I’ve been horribly bullied by white women - latest experience by old white British women who live in a British bubble in France and hate anyone younger and more vibrant than them! Oh and I’m 60! They never bloody learn!!
I love to inform women that they have the same brain as men no difference. Women must really be upset that some really ignorant women nobody should ever like theirs taken away that doesn't make sense.
…lol at this being said by a man. Misogyny is deep-seated in all of us, as is individualism. To prescribe this to “gender” is completely glossing over the issue at its core and further places the blame on women.
White women think they can smash the patriarchy by quoting the patriarchy 😆
I know that Republican legislators were calling churches across country & telling pastors & church leaders to tell their congregations to vote for Trump. Same hate Trump spews is told in churches. I'm certain lots of white women fell in line behind their husband & voted for toxic 🍊
Because the problems of many don't effect them, so big middle fingers to those who are effected. And trying to talk and bring reason to those is like talking to a brick wall.
One of the nastiest misogynists I have ever met was a woman.
Lets just say her daughters did not end well, even though they were some of the sweetest if messed up people I grew up with.
I don't think women fundamentally hate women; I think we often don't trust each other even as much as men. IMO many women, with less sense of power or agency, assume that of their "other" including their own identity, so his fears and hatreds and choices become hers by definition.
Yup, we learned it in junior high school. We're indoctrinated to compete for everything, including grades, cool clothes, attention from boys. Worst years of my life, and I've been through a lot in my 70 years.
I think some women like to see themselves as inferior to men to remove from themselves the burdens of responsibility. They will support this ideology via religion and politics. They are happy to take the subordinate role of “being cared for”, elevating the men in their lives as their superior.
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Women see other women as competition and because we've been raised to view being competitive as unladylike or unattractive women tend to be quiet or secretive about that competition which turns it toxic.
BUT, the synopsis insinuates the different ones are at fault. Sorry no, when the popular girls ganged up they did me a lifetime's damage.
Read the book. It's eye opening
Half the Sky by Nicholas Kristoff and Sheryl WuDunn
Most women throw another under the bus for approval/satisfaction of men
I thought I disliked most women until I moved to the northeast and got a job with practically all women.
Turns out, if your culture is steeped in a misogynistic religion, that's what you fucking get.
A woman can only get pregnant once, a man can get hundreds of women pregnant! Maybe we need laws to regulate men!!
But let’s avoid the same sweeping generalizations the MAGA crowd makes about every demographic.
So many people just thought their life was too hard and voted the incumbent out.
It’s happening all over the world.
Some ppl are genius Physicists.
Some ppl vote against their own basic human rights.
https://www.advocate.com/politics/tennessee-marriage-licenses-officials-lgbtq
You think that 51% of women can’t think for themselves and are under the direct control of men or the church!
That’s misogyny.
Half the Sky by Nicholas Kristoff and Sheryl WuDunn
Give love to halal women
Not give hate
White women think they can smash the patriarchy by quoting the patriarchy 😆
Hard to believe.
Lets just say her daughters did not end well, even though they were some of the sweetest if messed up people I grew up with.
I also wonder how many women’s mail-in ballots were filled in by men in their lives.