i mean the oscar broadcast was enjoyable but it feels like a cultural victory for fascism that hollywood is too scared for even vague platitudes about resisting.
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That's why you do not give Hollywood any money they have completely turned their backs on what they were supposed to be. No more movies which does include Netflix and all that other s*** junk cut it completely off.
Because the trans community hated Emilia Perez. And also the liberal community. And the conservative community. And the theater community. And all the Mexicans.
It was oscar-bait that did its job and won oscars, but real people hated it for the empty pandering garbage it was.
What was the genuine reason to hate the musical? I've never really understood it. Mexicans suddenly being upset that a European director makes a movie set in Mexico? Fuck that. A musical not being a documentary? Fuck that. What reason did they have to hate it?
it was transphobic for starters
it was a bad musical, most of the numbers were just talking in vague singsongy ways
the acting was bad
it was racist against mexicans
the use of the cartel was offensive to actual real life victims of cartel violence
Gee I dunno why nobody likes it
I see those talking points everywhere.
Here's why I don't buy that:
Sicario, an American made movie about hyper violent Mexican people doing all the worst things we can imagine. Raving reviews everywhere.
Zero Zero Zero, an Italian made series, same topic. Raving reviews everywhere.
Well you see people dont give a shit about those movies because they're blockbuster slop, they don't expect better, Emilia Perez has more attention and is trying to pass itself as progressive
People don't care about everything equally, the only reason they care about Emilia is cause it beat wicked
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I’ve always felt like expecting heroics from the privileged is a lost cause.
No Other Land winning definitely felt like something but even then the room was dead for it. They won’t say anything until they can truly comprehend what the director was speaking to.
Prob because everybody hates trump and it didn’t have to be talked about every second of everyday. Honestly it’s refreshing right now when you can go a hour without talking about him.
Didn't watch it but taking your word for it, fucking disgusting, and shows we have work to do. The media is not our friend.
No matter, keep building. If it is a cultural victory for fascism, that just means the next battle has started and victory is up for grabs. Keep the faith-- keep building.
Because white people are scared Black & ( POC Some ) are not when we do Monologues or when we Speak Truth to Power no matter what the consequences are because God eventually will set it right
If they made a big deal, it would be news a for a day or so, Trump would play victim, and so on. There are better ways for Hollywood to fight fascism than stumpbat award shows
For this reason, I kind of missed Jimmy Kimmel as host. Conan is great, but he’s too nice and I think this moment required something more acerbic and cutting.
I understand your point but I honestly was relieved to not hear DT even mentioned last night. Last year he got attention & was live tweeting to host Jimmy Kimmel. We all know he’s destroying our country & we must resist. I was glad to have one night to focus on LA & movies. Escape from reality. 🙂
I’m a huge movie lover & always watch them but I get it. Sometimes we just need things that are “normal” parts of life. The Oscars are a yearly event. They aren’t important in the scheme of things but art matters. To inform, to educate, to entertain, to escape. These traditions help us feel grounded
I feel like it was also a pretty weird year for winners with that respect… many were first timers, no classic Hollywood liberal blowhard like Clooney, Ruffalo, etc.
Conan’s not really that way, at least not directly, and doing it while *presenting* is kind of a dick move.
That our society still has an appetite for watching the second richest group of humans on the planet hand gold to each other tells me we are doomed. The Oscars are advertising for the richest group’s investments. So weird.
I heard Darryl Hannah say, ‘Slava Ukraine’, Conan’s Anora / Trump is a wimp joke got a good laugh, and No Other Land won and the acceptance speech was 🙌🏼
I'm a bit more "optimistic" about the obvious lack of politics at this year's Oscars. After the election I think the memo was sent around that, rightly or wrongly, rich celebs getting involved in politics seems to cause more harm than good in America at the moment.
Haven't you grasped by now that rich Holywood celebs simply don't have the grip on voters that some people think they do? They may have realized that far from helping anyone it actually may have the opposite effect.
True and false. Trump is a celeb, and many other conservative actors have C voters hanging on every word. But liberals and leftists tend to have a diversity that belies having a portrayal of beliefs displayed as absolute truth. Everyone goes, "See, that guy gets it," as rep, but rarely matters.
" But liberals and leftists tend to have a diversity that belies having a portrayal of beliefs displayed as absolute truth".. are you absolutely sure you are on Blue Sky, because this place is 90% liberals portraying beliefs as absolute truths no matter how untruthful.
Fair, although I'd say 80%. I meant more that there is no consensus of that truth whereas Conservatives just 'other' everything different as bad. Points for sticking to brand but L's have a harder time going saying -everyone- gets rights. Rights are not pie.
Yes, well, not sure what that has to do with Hollywood perhaps realizing that its reach is often viewed as a jewelry bedecked hand gesticulating at the peasantry. Just look at the glee with which Gervais' roasts were greeted.
I felt the same thing watching Saturday Night Live: Efforts by the writers to be more crass and less culturally or politically engaged or significantly push back.
I think they spoke through actions instead of words.Look how multicultural,multi national it was.Look who was represented.Look at the movies chosen.It was DEI overboard.They didn’t have to shout out words to be clear about their stance.I thought it was amazing.Did 🍊🎃 even get it?Very clever. #Oscars
I watched it for a bit expecting some good speeches on topic. It was pretty boring, so switched channels. Didn't like the new format of not showing the scenes either.
It was certainly odd. I was expecting a lot more of the speeches to center on that. Closest we got was the Brody speech. Perhaps they’re exhausted like we all are or they felt Fonda’s speech couldn’t be topped?
I think it’s that the entertainment industry has spoken up so much against Trump in all his elections. Harris had so much star support. And voters didn’t care - if anything, it hurt Harris.
warning everyone about project 2025 for YEARS and being called a hysterical TDS shitlib bc “both parties are the exact same and also that stuff won’t happen,” then now seeing dems get shit on for not stopping what repubs are doing (with full power) is kafkaesque
that disgusting AI “raze-gaza-and-build-a-gilded-trump-empire-complete-with-golden-idol-and-trump-with-bibi-in-pool-chairs” video trump posted was soul destroying. blue voters siding with Putin bc “USA always bad” is soul destroying. seeing Elon gut the NOAA — it’s all so fucked. what do you even do
I hear you and maybe that’s a poor read of what transpired. But my reasoning is that after 8 years of fighting against this they don’t feel they have anything new to add.
I'm not sure. We criticize fox for pretending to be political news when it's licensed as entertainment and we are disappointed when our show honoring entertainment isn't political.
I preferred it to be enjoyable. What can even be said at this point? Trump voters aren't going to be moved by anything. Non voters aren't going to be moved by anything. That was likely our last actual election, if it was even an actual election and not just Elon pulling levers. What is left to say?
I think you may be underestimating his ego. If not mentioned he will assume they love him. Trolling and getting right in his face (ala Gov of Maine, President Zelenskyy) are the only things that rattle him and we need him rattled. Every day. And Conan knows this so fuck him & every celebrity there.
I think that a lot of people have come to the conclusion making those types of speeches/gestures has become counter productive and plays in to fashy hands.
Can we not enjoy entertainment anymore without politics? It was nice enjoying just a show when we're inundated w politics all day...the break was nice!
Conan made the comment about Anora's awards and how people must like watching someone stand up to a strong Russian, which was funny & apt, but otherwise I appreciated denying Troll & Villain any oxygen.
The U.S. is a cult of normalcy. Pretend fascism isn’t happening. Pretend Covid’s not a thing. Pretend genocide isn’t going on. We have a hard time dealing with reality, ironic for a nation that “elected” a reality show clown.
I am sorry to say Jon Stewart has been the most heartbreaking. At least last week he cut himself in a rageful bit, but I still think he’s trying too hard to be funny when we really need biting commentary. He’s my hero and I need him to step up.
For real. Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and John Oliver need to ride together, shoulder to shoulder, on to the scene and say things about nuclear war, genocide, fascist takeovers, etc. They are not comedians, they are truth-tellers. Sometimes truth is absurd. The comedy bits were editorials.
How are Stephen Colbert and John Oliver doing so far? I hope better. I also suspect The Daily Show may have new writers because nothing is hitting the mark in terms of humor. It’s relying on slapstick bullshit.
Hot take; Jon Stewart is a privileged douche who seems much more comfortable whining about Democrats than actually acknowledging how terrible Trump is.
This was my gripe. There was seriously nothing radical or subversive about it.
With the exception of Daryl Hannah nobody did anything.
Might as well have wiped the Cheeto dust off their frocks and finery.
You mean the sexist, racist paradigm of cultural programming that masquerades as entertainment while spewing out more propaganda films than Nazi germany could have ever dreamt of? That Hollywood?
I haven’t watched Oscars for years because of this. I don’t care if it’s Mel Gibson or Jane Fonda, I do not give one f what a narcissist on stage thinks who is doing it only to go viral or appear in headlines.
Listen to experts, not actors.
Actors know no more than you do. Probably less.
Want to go on Twitter? Fine.
I don’t need to hear them in front of Congress.
Their words mean no more to me than my next door neighbor or someone on here, but their narcissism makes them think it does.
At Oscars, stick to craft.
Sports? Play game.
They tried to catch and kill a movie's milestone success with an unrelated smear campaign. This country would rather Fascism than 1% Atomic Habits starting at SocDem.
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It was oscar-bait that did its job and won oscars, but real people hated it for the empty pandering garbage it was.
it was a bad musical, most of the numbers were just talking in vague singsongy ways
the acting was bad
it was racist against mexicans
the use of the cartel was offensive to actual real life victims of cartel violence
Gee I dunno why nobody likes it
Here's why I don't buy that:
Sicario, an American made movie about hyper violent Mexican people doing all the worst things we can imagine. Raving reviews everywhere.
Zero Zero Zero, an Italian made series, same topic. Raving reviews everywhere.
People don't care about everything equally, the only reason they care about Emilia is cause it beat wicked
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No Other Land winning definitely felt like something but even then the room was dead for it. They won’t say anything until they can truly comprehend what the director was speaking to.
They had a rare chance to rip the sleepwalkers from slumber and they did...absolutely nothing?
No matter, keep building. If it is a cultural victory for fascism, that just means the next battle has started and victory is up for grabs. Keep the faith-- keep building.
Bigger change needs to occur.
Oscar speeches are useless.
Conan’s not really that way, at least not directly, and doing it while *presenting* is kind of a dick move.
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Big winner of the night was a Russian propaganda film.
so both sides *aren’t* the same huh?
the Grammys and the Oscars both glaringly ignored the withering old queen. I hope that's intentional.
with each pgm, I loved it being asshole free.
resistance comes in all forms and sometimes we just need a safe space.
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He’s trying to flip CA to the rich w/ Gold passports.
God, we need our South African DEI hire 🙂 back right now.
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With the exception of Daryl Hannah nobody did anything.
Might as well have wiped the Cheeto dust off their frocks and finery.
Listen to experts, not actors.
Want to go on Twitter? Fine.
I don’t need to hear them in front of Congress.
Their words mean no more to me than my next door neighbor or someone on here, but their narcissism makes them think it does.
At Oscars, stick to craft.
Sports? Play game.
Well, Ukraine should be free and at peace, and I don't want to fuck Trump!
What? That's Ukrainian for "Glory to Ukraine"?
Nevermind
(But, I still don't want to fuck Trump.)
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They tried to catch and kill a movie's milestone success with an unrelated smear campaign. This country would rather Fascism than 1% Atomic Habits starting at SocDem.