If that’s true congressional members would have worked to expel their colleagues for voting not to certify a free and fair election & they did not even try to expel the members that participated in the false electors scheme. Silence and inaction is the same as guilt.
That's absolutely correct.
Democrats are now insulting me for just asking why they didn't even mention the 14th Amendment section 3.
This isn't just laying down for Trump's regime, some Democrats are complicit.
I am a lifelong devoted Democrat and union organizer. I'm just sickened!
Kamala Harris should be the leader of the Democratic Party, but she has not even mentioned that Trump cannot legally serve as president.
His oath was illegal.
He is an illegitimate incumbent. Congress did not do its sworn duty to impeach, & thereafter a corrupt judiciary (cannon) shielded 45 & SCOTUS made a criminal a king. What I find most offensive is congress’ finger pointing at the people for voting for him. His candidacy never should have occurred.
I think the ship is running with nobody at the helm. AOC is going around while the rest is like decided to take a vacation or just given up I guess and became a "yes master".
Trump lost. Voter suppression won. Numbers don’t lie. Stalin: ”He who votes decides nothing, he who counts the votes decides everything." Trump: "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LN65qFUDDo
LOL, I hate that one too. I remember growing up and hearing that as a reason not to vote. I would love to hear that now and say: "So would Kamala Harris nominate the same people for her cabinet?"
“Both sides are the same” means you haven’t been paying attention. Not the same. But the Democratic Party can’t effectively oppose the current Republicans— at the ballot, in court or in Congress. The whole system needs an overhaul and I haven’t seen anyone willing to tackle it.
It’s not going to look the same when MAGA tries to buy anything & find out what tariffs and deportation & eliminating science does to their QAnon Theology.
I'm considering auto-blocking everyone who memes something about the price of groceries. People want to pretend Drumpf promised that are willfully ignorant.
I feel the same way about the people hacking on Biden for his pardons. Jesus, all the straight up criming that the orange thing has done and you want to call out Biden for protecting his family from this crazy SOB???
Man, screw you.
I feel like: "i have critique of both sides" gets confused for "they're the exact same". This is obviously completely incorrect since my critiques of the dems are policy, while for the republicans it's existential...
Ditto for when my brother told me pardoning 1500 insurrectionists was no different than Biden preemptively pardoning Drm Fauci.
Blocked.
My brother.
I never thought we would be in this place.
It's such a dumb fallacy, and I'd argue *motivated* dumbness. If you can't find a stark and meaningful contrast between the actions of either side, you're working hard to check out.
My husband was one of the most liberal persons I ever met . He is very intelligent, reads a lot , speaks fluently 5 languages, plus 3 others he can communicate quite well.
He didn't vote for the last 2 elections because he was so disappointed that people didn't vote for Hillary.
Over time I've come to hear "both sides are the same" as a "I want to remain apolotical & both sides try to make me engage with politics, so both sides are the same."
So it hits me as "nah nah nah, I can't hear you."
& that's a BS POV to me. Life's rough. Care enuff to invest in a POV.
There are far too many online left wing communities which subscribe to this belief, complaining about “lesser of two evils is still evil” but the Democratic Party isn’t the one that is actively dismantling the progress the country has gone through in recent years. In short, I agree with you on this
Agreed Jeff! If you’re dumb enough to believe people throwing Nazi salutes and dropping shitcoins to bank off the inauguration are the same, you’re just a moron with a lower IQ than your shoe size 😂
At minimum there’s a level of accountability on the left that’s absent on the right. Franken makes a (very offensive) joke, he’s forced to resign; Trump, an adjudicated rapist, coasts to his party’s nomination. Cuomo bros coordinate messaging, they’re out of a job; Hannity and Trump, still working.
Both sides are definitely not the same. I do hope to see some courage from Democrats, though. AOC can't be the only one who isn't too scared to stand up and trying things while defending her principles. Norms be damned.
Agree. Mind blowing lack of awareness and thinking skills. Both sides are far from the same. I’m dumping all my right wing incel bigots connections (I don’t call them friends) as we speak
Bluesky should enable the creation of blocked starter packs. They should be able to cross-reference all blocked starter packs of people you follow & those who end up on enough common blocked packs wind up on the “You’re a fucking Nazi” starter pack, & new Bluesky users can start with a clean slate!
THANK YOU for posting this. It is the cop out statement I constantly hear from people who did not vote. I find what they try to use as an excuse for non voting to be disgusting.
I was staffing a Harris/Walz booth last fall during the pride fest when a college kid told me he didn’t see a difference between Trump and Harris. This was a gay, brown-skinned male. I was stunned. I talked about preserving democracy, I talked about inclusion. The kid was not convinced.
Just wait until GoP states accelerate the purge right before the next election, so it will be too late for anyone to check their registration:
"3,565,000 - The number of voters denied the right to vote. The were purged or challenged. Enough to elect @Kamalaharris "
"Both sides are the same" is a lazy ambivalence. You may as well be saying, "I haven't been paying attention and I don't care if the world is burning all around me."
I completely understand where you’re coming from! It seems to me that this might show a bit of reluctance to engage, a lack of interest in the topic, or perhaps just some nervousness about sharing their true feelings.
I came here to say something really similar- that it’s a low hanging fruit of cop outs.
Anyone who says the both sides argument leads me to think they prefer to float through life & hope for the best. Definitely not someone I want beside me on a sinking ship!😬
I like this Mr. Tiedrich...I'm beyond sick of this repugnant favored propagandist statement. It was designed to draw a "they're equally as bad as each other" parallel. However, for those sound of mind, we know (knew) otherwise. At what point in the past 20 yrs did a dem pres incite an insurrection?
As far as the parties go, one side is just bog standard ineffectual centrists and the other side is Nazis. But I can see how that could confuse stupid people.
Democrats are either wimps or complicit. They absolutely own part of the mess we are in. We have absolutely no leadership. Go a head and block me. If Dems don’t get their shit together and fight these massive corporations they’re not winning any more elections and we all continue to suffer.
I just responded to a gentleman this morning that said just that, "both sides are the same". He is being disingenuous, facetious, and is emotionally still stuck in the '70s. The GOP promotes this kind of cynicism in order to depress the vote and the far-left falls for it hand over heels.
Same. I’m also blocking Dems who are into blaming the victim—VP Harris ran a nearly flawless campaign, and Pres Biden gave America the best 4 years. The GOP win so often because they remain UNIFIED no matter what. Dems eat their own. We have to stop that!
She performed admirably given the fact that she had 3 months to conceive, plan and execute a campaign to win. She has my total respect. And always will.
agreed. election results in 2016,2024 and nearly 2020 say that America sees the Democratic Party is a worse choice. Just wrap your heads around that, or risk being out of power for a generation. Key lessons for Democrats to learn here, I caution not to dismiss the >50% of 75M Independent voters.
Starting to see a lot of the “centrist” folk coming online.. if you don’t take a side you are the side of the oppressor and I have nothing more to say to you. Simples.
Jeff, I love you buddy. Fundamentally, we are all the same. Those on our-side choose awareness>limited self perspective, that is why we feel different. But they are sick in a way that is built up in so many experiences that they’ve lost that reality. It is Sad and it is madding, but it is true. 🙏🫶
We sure were foolish to think that the youth vote would save us this time around, but most chose to sit on their juvenile asses because of the war in Gaza.
Comforts me to know that they’ll be punished for that decision for the rest of their lives, as things inevitably get much worse.
that nonsense ("both sides are the same") baffles me. like, i'm incredibly frustrated with the dems for a lot of things, but i don't think for a fucking second that they're anywhere near the same as the gop assholes who want to systematically dismantle every part of everything, ever.
I think it's true for a certain type of rich, white, old Dem who will go along with whatever heinous fuckery the other side comes up with if it benefits them directly, and that should be acknowledged. But as an overall ideology, they're completely different worlds.
along that line, you know what i saw the day that trump removed fauci's security detail? my local shithole midwest gutter town's FB page had multiple people talking about that and "suggesting" someone should go find fauci.
Most peoples politics are vibe-based.
Some care because they get energy from it.
Others back out, deflect, rationalize etc because they are overwhelmed.
Cant change human nature.
Or pay attention to the braying of fools during a fight.
It’s a critique of neo liberal capitalism and the support for capitalism by both sides. Recognizing that racism, sexism, classism is all intersectional with capitalist exploitation and we can’t reconcile social equality while maintaining an in inherently evil economic system.
sure and yes. it does seem foolish not to mention that being paid to not act is perhaps as vile as being paid to act. money does
corrupt absolutely. can’t ignore that. it’s the main problem for all
of us.
Both sides took corporation money.
Both sides betrayed the people they swore to represent them.
Yes, they did it in different ways, but in the end, they betrayed us.
You mean to tell me that 4 years under Biden and they couldn’t pin trump for 1 felony? When Harris put thousands in prison in CA. BD
Shocker! You mean “trickle down” didn’t work for you? But Ronnie said . . . Republicans have been destroying this country for decades. Only “sleepy donOLD” has been doing it at warp speed this time. This week has seemed like a year. 207 weeks to go.
I mean, they're both kinda out for themselves and the rich. But one is much much worse than the other. Gun to my head I'll take the neoliberalism with the sparkles and unicorn shows, over the alternative.
Isn't it an interesting conundrum lol that the majority of those "both sides are bad" folks voted for the side offering racist fascist Talibangelical policies and destroying Constitutional rights to install an authoritarian dictator? 🤔🫤
I have a friend, that in his quest to be "fair", will give equal weight to every issue. That can hide the truth just as much as the extremist trying to filter everything through the prism of their own worldview. You can't put a bowling ball and marble on a balancing scale and say it's even.
Do not allow perfection to be the enemy of good. The results we're seeing in the US are a painful reminder of that. Neither side is perfect, but when one side wants to actively stoke hate, erase the existence of my friends and block access to medical care "both sides-ing" that is absurd.
Transport this Republican Party to Germany circa 1938 and then they can make the claim. The current Democratic Party is not prepared for the moment, though, and hasn’t been for years. The republicans are fighting a war and Schumer is scolding them for not following Robert’s rules of order
Nope, they aren't the same at all. But definitely both interested in holding onto their power no matter what. And one of them just won their 50-year bid to consolidate all of it.
When somebody says that, you can be sure they either voted for Trump (if they're disingenuous) or didn't vote (if they're sincere). Either way, they are responsible for our current mess so no, I don't need to hear their bullshit.
I love to listen to people bitching about this program or that and asking who is trying to kill it. They never actually know. Then I usually point out that 1 party is actively trying to kill social programs. I live in a deep red area, most have no idea who is actually fucking them.
But if there are fine people on both sides the only way to differentiate is that one side wants the other side eliminated while the other side isn’t remotely interested in the affairs of the first side making then finer people
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One side is not voluntarily dismantling democracy, safety, and mercy.
Democrats are now insulting me for just asking why they didn't even mention the 14th Amendment section 3.
This isn't just laying down for Trump's regime, some Democrats are complicit.
I am a lifelong devoted Democrat and union organizer. I'm just sickened!
I could not even tell you who is in charge of Dems at this point. Have not heard from anyone other than AOC.
His oath was illegal.
Trump lost. Voter suppression won. Numbers don’t lie. Stalin: ”He who votes decides nothing, he who counts the votes decides everything." Trump: "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LN65qFUDDo
Man, screw you.
Blocked.
My brother.
I never thought we would be in this place.
We are fooled to believe that we have only 2 choices. The awakening will come.
He didn't vote for the last 2 elections because he was so disappointed that people didn't vote for Hillary.
Over time I've come to hear "both sides are the same" as a "I want to remain apolotical & both sides try to make me engage with politics, so both sides are the same."
So it hits me as "nah nah nah, I can't hear you."
& that's a BS POV to me. Life's rough. Care enuff to invest in a POV.
intellectualy lazy .
All Republican talking points.
Fortunately, most of them hate each other too, so the mating ritual is never actually completed.
Appreciate your humor.
Need it now more than ever.
Hope you and your wife are well.
"3,565,000 - The number of voters denied the right to vote. The were purged or challenged. Enough to elect @Kamalaharris "
https://youtu.be/0LN65qFUDDo?si=6lIjNFT1E0-mNEA-&t=49
When in reality they are just being intellectually lazy and shallow.
Anyone who says the both sides argument leads me to think they prefer to float through life & hope for the best. Definitely not someone I want beside me on a sinking ship!😬
"Republicans claim Sun sets in the East."
"Democrats disagree."
Comforts me to know that they’ll be punished for that decision for the rest of their lives, as things inevitably get much worse.
Sure, I'll give your personal address to Trump and Biden.
'both sides are the same' my ass.
That’s all the explanation there is.
Most peoples politics are vibe-based.
Some care because they get energy from it.
Others back out, deflect, rationalize etc because they are overwhelmed.
Cant change human nature.
Or pay attention to the braying of fools during a fight.
corrupt absolutely. can’t ignore that. it’s the main problem for all
of us.
A related instant block is “what about…”
Both sides betrayed the people they swore to represent them.
Yes, they did it in different ways, but in the end, they betrayed us.
You mean to tell me that 4 years under Biden and they couldn’t pin trump for 1 felony? When Harris put thousands in prison in CA. BD
Just block their betraying asses.
It’s all projection
2026
2028
Protect democracy
Save democracy
Vote
Non-violence
Peaceful protest
Impeach
and
no
They can fuck all the way off.
#USA
“False equivalency is an understatement”