I've created an initial Grumpy Machine Learners starter park. If you think you're grumpy and you "do machine learning", nominate yourself. If you're on the list, but don't think you are grumpy, then take a look in the mirror. go.bsky.app/6ddpivr - ThreadSky

roydanroy.bsky.social • 101 days ago

I've created an initial Grumpy Machine Learners starter park. If you think you're grumpy and you "do machine learning", nominate yourself. If you're on the list, but don't think you are grumpy, then take a look in the mirror.

https://go.bsky.app/6ddpivr

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Comments

dmimno.bsky.social•101 days ago

Does my pinned post count?

erpel.bsky.social•99 days ago

well done baiting me to check out your account

teemuroos.bsky.social•97 days ago

I do ML. And if you don’t add me on this list, I’ll be grumpy. Checkmate

josueortc.bsky.social•101 days ago

Wanna be added! Thanks!!

suryaganguli.bsky.social•98 days ago

Now that I am not in this I am grumpy 😉

gusthema.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm grumpy!

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

Public grumpiness evidence required.

gusthema.bsky.social•101 days ago

I can't stand all this BS about agi anymore! Can we just come back to solve real problems with ML?

(How about now?)

gaelvaroquaux.bsky.social•101 days ago

Hey, you stole my line

digthatdata.bsky.social•95 days ago

@gradybooch.bsky.social is conspicuously absent

michaelhoffman.bsky.social•101 days ago

I am extremely grumpy

dileeplearning.bsky.social•101 days ago

I’m grumpy I’m not on this list

dhruvbatra.bsky.social•84 days ago

And I came here to protest Dileep's listing (he's not grumpy, he's a realist!). But if Dileep thinks he's grumpy, my "grumpy" standards are off and I must be as well :)

aliciacurth.bsky.social•101 days ago

He’s still learning but I think @alanjeffares.bsky.social has what it takes to make this list

aliciacurth.bsky.social•101 days ago

I think this is good evidence for the grumpiness I have to endure EVERY SINGLE PROJECT

alanjeffares.bsky.social•101 days ago

i’m starting a meta grumpy list for people that are grumpy about this list

aliciacurth.bsky.social•101 days ago

Yeah I’m just grumpy now that there is no ✨Golden Retriever Energy in ML✨ list for poor delightful people like me

starrtrooper.bsky.social•97 days ago

My grumpiness increases as my learning curve

jennwv.bsky.social•97 days ago

I am grumpy about not already being recognized as grumpy. GET OFF MY LAWN.

jennwv.bsky.social•97 days ago

I have created entire research agendas out of being grumpy.

841io.bsky.social•97 days ago

i can confirm

roydanroy.bsky.social•97 days ago

Fixed! Keep on grumping!

smerity.bsky.social•101 days ago

I am a potentially reformed grumpy ML person? I'm still grumpy on many things in the ML / LLM space but after this specific instance I decided to take a break. I still fear my stated fears came true but burned a few dear friendships not stating it more delicately :(
https://twitter.com/Smerity/status/1153364705777311745

alxfed.bsky.social•101 days ago

I am a grumpy old man and I work (since 1978) with adaptive algorithms that you in a very metaphorical way call 'Machine Learning'. I just _must_ be put on your list.

alucchi.bsky.social•101 days ago

Swiss French here and I do ML. By definition we are of the passive agressive/grumpy kind.

erpel.bsky.social•99 days ago

I'd be quite grumpy, if you don't add me 😤

nafnlaus.bsky.social•101 days ago

Grumpy hobbyists welcome, or just grumpy pros?

desirivanova.bsky.social•99 days ago

I nominate @fhuszar.bsky.social

inference.vc•98 days ago

flattering

segyges.bsky.social•101 days ago

i've read two papers on arxiv today and am often described as not entirely sanguine

swalton.ai•97 days ago

I’d like to submit my application

https://bsky.app/profile/waltonstevenj.bsky.social/post/3lbkmxvoegk2j

jesfrellsen.bsky.social•100 days ago

I fell like nominating myself, but do we really need another starter park?

roydanroy.bsky.social•100 days ago

Great demonstration of grumpiness, Jes!

clauswilke.com•101 days ago

Doing machine learning, and definitely grumpy.

samuelvaiter.com•101 days ago

I think I am eligible as a French (researcher).

baseless-fabric.privac.ie•94 days ago

📌

edwardraffml.bsky.social•100 days ago

What subjects are one requires to be grumpy about?

ak-nain.bsky.social•101 days ago

I should have been in the first set itself 😂😂

satnam6502.bsky.social•101 days ago

I do machine learning hardware, does that count? And I can definitely be grumpy.

cpaxton.bsky.social•101 days ago

Am I not grumpy enough or not ML enough

karmeshyadav.bsky.social•84 days ago

I support this nomination!

cpaxton.bsky.social•84 days ago

Lol I think I'm much grumpier in person than on Twitter

bendraves.bsky.social•101 days ago

I regularly send marketers this picture which I feel like is the right level of passive-aggressive grump for this group

lowd.bsky.social•101 days ago

The truly grumpy are too cynical to want to be added to any list.

trappmartin.bsky.social•101 days ago

Or they would complain that they are on a grumpy list.

lowd.bsky.social•101 days ago

I’m grumpy that many researchers are so cynical about the alleged harms of ML as to ignore the massive current benefits and future potential.

Like, ML used to be for two things: advertising and surveillance.

RL was all about bandits for clicking on ads!

CV was all about tracking people!

lowd.bsky.social•101 days ago

Now ML is being used to make pictures and songs and things of BEAUTY… and everyone wants to sue!

ML is inspiring and people are depressing.

cthorrez.bsky.social•101 days ago

First I was excited, then I realized I already followed them all

jrudoler.bsky.social•101 days ago

Amazing list (not sure what to make of the fact that I already followed everyone - maybe @kordinglab.bsky.social’s grumpy is rubbing off)

csprofkgd.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oooo please add

tommylofstedt.bsky.social•101 days ago

Funny, I already followed almost all on the list 😅

kdawg.com•101 days ago

How can @garymarcus.bsky.social not be on this list? 😁

tomdiethe.com•101 days ago

Nope not me, I’m always a ray of sunshine, my daughters can attest to that

grzegorz.chrupala.me•101 days ago

I'm definitely grumpy. And an MLer, so I'll fit in.

mattrix96.bsky.social•101 days ago

I think I am :(

patrickkidger.bsky.social•101 days ago

I have, very occasionally, been known to get mildly disgruntled.

If that's not enough justification for inclusion then I promise to try harder to be grumpy in the future. 😈👿

sebastian-uribe.bsky.social•100 days ago

so grumpy about this starter pack that I want to join it

pelayoarbues.com•101 days ago

Who is grumpy! You are grumpy! 😆

simonemarini.bsky.social•101 days ago

I would really like to be part of this. I make ML models for a living, and my grandma taught me how to be grumpy. (And how to keep fighting without ever stopping complaining. And how to cook.)

nantas.bsky.social•101 days ago

😤😠😡🤬

rao2z.bsky.social•89 days ago

Grumpy as the next curmudgeon.. about ML, its oh so expanded/diluted that much of #AI twitter is MLLM, no?

endofthepier.bsky.social•84 days ago

I’m grumpy, but don’t do machine learning. May I go in up to my waist ?

melaniemitchell.bsky.social•101 days ago

I would say @rodneyabrooks.bsky.social has sparks of AGI grumpiness.

melaniemitchell.bsky.social•101 days ago

🤨 grumpy face

hplisiecki.bsky.social•101 days ago

Is ranting about NLP being an abbreviation for both natural language processing and neurolinguistic programming grumpy enough?

sidneygjwong.bsky.social•94 days ago

At this stage, the two forms of NLP are indistinguishable based on how people are over-exaggerating their utilities

hplisiecki.bsky.social•94 days ago

Sounds like something an NLP proponent would say

sidneygjwong.bsky.social•94 days ago

I just realised the thread is on grumpy ML folks 😁

mysageadvice.bsky.social•101 days ago

💙

seanescola.bsky.social•101 days ago

Can’t speak to all the others, but @davidpfau.com definitely qualifies as grumpy https://bsky.app/profile/davidpfau.com/post/3l4fzkv46sl2u

amartyaroy.bsky.social•100 days ago

Self Nominating :)

2sk22.bsky.social•101 days ago

I’m an OG ML person - I was doing back propagation in 1990! I retired a few years ago after getting fed up of the field 😀

rdkbio.bsky.social•98 days ago

Another nomination: @fhuszar.bsky.social

rdkbio.bsky.social•100 days ago

I nominate @jph.bsky.social

becausejustyn.bsky.social•99 days ago

I am only grumpy when I am coding.

sethaxen.com•101 days ago

Just checked, and yeah, most of my posts on here have negative sentiment, so I think I qualify.

rdeheide.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oh nice, can I nominate myself?

rdeheide.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oh I need to attest to my grumpiness. I'm especially grumpy about the flood of ML papers stating "we have a new method; here is a nice picture; thus our new method works!". I want proof. Solid math. I don't trust nice pictures of birds with some pixels highlighted.

davidpfau.com•101 days ago

@neu-rips.bsky.social?

rashmib.bsky.social•101 days ago

lol, my kind of list , Can I be included as well ? Thank you !

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

Need evidence of sufficient public grumpiness. Twitter links would do.

clinamina.bsky.social•101 days ago

nominating @subutaiahmad.bsky.social :-)

johnegan.bsky.social•98 days ago

nominating myself

i try not to be too grumpy

am a little bit irritated by probabilistic tech slop 🤦‍♀️

kwangsungjun.bsky.social•98 days ago

I nominate myself. I hate lack of after service from the authors of the papers with errors..

davidjwatkins.bsky.social•100 days ago

I have been known to grump from time to time

everydayhuman.bsky.social•89 days ago

I would like to apply to the pack: Ive been told I have grumpy resting face😾, and have been learning from machines since a kid teaching since 12. Favorite ML book GEB.
Network theory, information theory, signaling, game theory.

kldivergence.bsky.social•99 days ago

Not entirely sure I’m grumpy or in ML but at the very least I am grumpy-ML-adjacent. And eager to rebuild a network off of X/twitter so…. Let me in? 😄

christophmolnar.bsky.social•101 days ago

This morning I drafted a blog post about how overly focusing on ML benchmarks can hinder ML research.

Is that enough to add me to the grump list? 😁

nsaphra.bsky.social•101 days ago

I’m grumpy. If I’m not on the list already then I’m even grumpier

nsaphra.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oh I see myself already there. I’m grumpy about that too

chriswolfvision.bsky.social•101 days ago

You could have a shot at an interesting variant of Russell's Paradox, by adding a "not" to you sentence: "I am not grumpy. If I am not on the list already, then I am grumpy".

mihainica.bsky.social•101 days ago

I nominate myself! Evidence: I haven't had coffee yet

zeerak.bsky.social•97 days ago

Apparently I am known for being grumpy. But then who wouldn’t be with the current state of ML

zehavoc.bsky.social•99 days ago

Hey, I'm literally becoming Abraham Simpson those days, can get in ?

kylem.bsky.social•101 days ago

I would list among my many qualities “grumpy” “opinionated” and “critical”, but hopefully in a good natured way 😉

kylem.bsky.social•101 days ago

my evidence is the last three years of complaining about AI hype on Twitter, @/kylemorgenstein

kawinethayarajh.bsky.social•101 days ago

Moderately grumpy UToronto alumnus nominating myself 🙋

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

Nominations welcome. Self and otherwise.

maosbot.bsky.social•101 days ago

You should see me when people tell me that function approximation is a solved problem

rmcantin.bsky.social•101 days ago

Testing alternative: "Monte Carlo is the way to go for reliable Bayesian inference" 😂

maosbot.bsky.social•101 days ago

I can report off the charts grumpiness levels here

gaelvaroquaux.bsky.social•101 days ago

Dude, it is.
Look up the universal approximation results for the MLP.

aaronschein.bsky.social•101 days ago

Love the group, and wish I could apply, but unfortunately feel too bubbly and thus unqualified

nolovedeeplearning.bsky.social•101 days ago

starter packs are just a way to conflate follower counts quickly.

This rant should qualify me for this starter pack.

mirerfang.bsky.social•101 days ago

Is there a TMLR submission account as well?

marwinsegler.bsky.social•101 days ago

Clearly @grumpybavarian.bsky.social should be on the list 😊

ebakerwhite.bsky.social•101 days ago

I’m here to nominate @colin-fraser.net 😃 evidence: years of tweets.

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

Nominations require public evidence of grumpiness.

neurostats.org•101 days ago

Self-nominating

oliverbatch.bsky.social•96 days ago

No one needs to know how grumpy I am. I'm told I must say "no" less often in the face of absurd ideas!

reggiemclean.bsky.social•101 days ago

Is grumpiness the only acceptable metric? Or is cynicism an acceptable proxy for grumpiness?

gdalle.bsky.social•101 days ago

@roydanroy.bsky.social I volunteer as tribute! Here’s my most recent ML grumpiness

https://x.com/giomdal/status/1851367572073021833?s=46&t=QgdAJrXrbMdyLyfExn6epg

rexdouglass.bsky.social•96 days ago

I can also get some testimonials if needed

https://bsky.app/profile/rexdouglass.bsky.social/post/3l7pfmhrc6l2t

iandanforth.bsky.social•101 days ago

How is Zachary Lipton not on this list?

ccanonne.bsky.social•101 days ago

@neu-rips.bsky.social is here!

davidpicard.bsky.social•101 days ago

So it's the extra-grumpy list, then 😂

vincefort.bsky.social•101 days ago

Happy to be added if you deem me grumpy enough 😉

beaudoin.social•101 days ago

Can you make it as a block list too? ;)

ishan.khatri.io•101 days ago

I love this. Definitely not grumpy or jaded enough to make this list, but I saw that I’m already following almost everyone on it, so clearly I enjoy some grumpy content every so often 😂

ishan.khatri.io•101 days ago

Also nominating @giffmana.bsky.social who isn’t always grumpy but has his moments :P

giffmana.ai•101 days ago

ah come on now, lists of people? We've done that before and it didn't end well...

gusthema.bsky.social•101 days ago

It's so good to see you here!

giffmana.ai•101 days ago

Thanks! Just test-driving for a bit to see.

The last "migration" to mastodon was a disaster, so I'm not holding my breath on this one...

gusthema.bsky.social•101 days ago

I tried Mastodon too and didn't like.
The good news is that bluesky is looking good but the AI community here needs people like you too!

chriswolfvision.bsky.social•101 days ago

There was never anything happening on Mastodon. This is already quite different.

chriswolfvision.bsky.social•101 days ago

Lists are linear, circles are circular...

jonkhler.argmin.xyz•101 days ago

What about a ring buffer implemented via a doubly chained list? 🤔

jonkhler.argmin.xyz•101 days ago

*linked - that lack of edit button is a downer

arun-niranjan.bsky.social•98 days ago

👋🏾 I "do machine learning" and believe I am grumpy as well

arun-niranjan.bsky.social•98 days ago

E.g.

https://bsky.app/profile/arun-niranjan.bsky.social/post/3lbhk7evtm22w

sayan.page•100 days ago

🙋‍♂️

cameron.pfiffer.org•101 days ago

this fits your vibe

talyarkoni.com•101 days ago

i hate this so much i should probably be in it

jbimaknee.bsky.social•98 days ago

I'm grumpy

If you aren't grumpy, you aren't paying attention

saiprasanna.in•99 days ago

I nominate @yoavgo.bsky.social for all the informative grumpy tweets

yoavgo.bsky.social•99 days ago

ah yes! i thought about nominating myself but then i realized i am no longer an ML researcher because it is all just prompting now

dziadzio.bsky.social•98 days ago

certified grumpy

cmarschner.bsky.social•99 days ago

That comment is on brand

tedunderwood.me•99 days ago

This post proves you belong!

jeremyharper.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oh I’m grumpy!

abursuc.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm an Eastern European!

ericbrachmann.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm objective. It just so happens that most stuff I see is junk.

chrisoffner3d.bsky.social•101 days ago

"Nicht geschimpft ist genug gelobt." 👌

mgorinova.bsky.social•101 days ago

Ahahha this is so accurate!

Being Eastern European, I guess my response is meh

zabong69.bsky.social•61 days ago

A lot of these people are smiling. While obviously meeting the „do machine learning“ criterion, they have to work on grumpiness.

inference.vc•98 days ago

oh and @egrefen.bsky.social

inference.vc•98 days ago

@neu-rips.bsky.social can be grumpy if he puts some effort in

kordinglab.bsky.social•101 days ago

Now we just need to get Ben here.

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

He has an account and so I added him.

marvinschmitt.com•101 days ago

import grumpy as gp

or: I spend about 60% of my time fighting Python and LaTeX errors — that should make me sufficiently grumpy to qualify.

desirivanova.bsky.social•101 days ago

I spend 60% of my time fighting with IT department errors 😂
(also, I don’t like gps)

trappmartin.bsky.social•101 days ago

YOU DON’T LIKE GPs???

andreapanizza.bsky.social•101 days ago

@kordinglab.bsky.social grumpy? The infamy!

pierrealquier.bsky.social•101 days ago

Oh I would be happy to become grumpy :)

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

Are you grumpy or just French? ;)

antoine-mln.bsky.social•101 days ago

uff touché

pierrealquier.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm French all day.

I'm only grumpy before my morning coffee, but at that time, I'm Napoléon-level grumpy.

yetanotheruseless.com•101 days ago

porquois pas les deux? ;P

yetanotheruseless.com•101 days ago

if I could spell it would help, but c'est la vie?

zoetherobot.bsky.social•29 days ago

I can BE grumpy if you wish. My robot is NEVER grumpy. She's actually very friendly. https://youtu.be/SeXxdBV8EsY

gaelvaroquaux.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm like totally offended not to be on this list.

stefpac.bsky.social•97 days ago

Where’s Schmidhuber?

roydanroy.bsky.social•97 days ago

When he joins, someone let me know!!!

yetanotheruseless.com•101 days ago

Yeah, this should probably include me, if any list does!

carlosdata.bsky.social•101 days ago

Hi, mind to include me? My twitter handle is perdiendomasa as a prove, i guess.

bwp.bsky.social•101 days ago

Grumpy is the only way to be in the current phase of AI. Whether it’s horrible reporting on AI, research that AI researchers tout as groundbreaking that other fields did years ago, or people in the field refusing to do basic knowledge reviews so they can claim being first, grumpy is where it’s at

ncourty.bsky.social•97 days ago

Very grumpy here. Me ACing ICLR and reading the reviews

alexshtf.bsky.social•100 days ago

I don't think I'm grumpy enough :(

tttthomasssss.bsky.social•101 days ago

I am grumpy and would grudgingly nominate myself if there is space left 🧛🏻

ntraft.bsky.social•101 days ago

Look, I do machine learning, but I'm not happy about it.

ntraft.bsky.social•101 days ago

Do be sure to add @garymarcus.bsky.social and @rodneyabrooks.bsky.social, naturally!

alfcnz.bsky.social•101 days ago

I roast bad posters at conferences.
Do I qualify? 🤔

federicovaggi.bsky.social•101 days ago

You are one of the most positive people in the field Alfredo!

chrisoffner3d.bsky.social•101 days ago

As long as people use the right typeface. A policy that I condone btw. 😎

alfcnz.bsky.social•101 days ago

Aww 🥰🥰🥰

mmbronstein.bsky.social•101 days ago

Am I a grumpy one? I try to be positive on this app

sacha2.bsky.social•101 days ago

yet

muledupape.bsky.social•101 days ago

I got it this way
from grumpy import *

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

I'm happy to remove you if you are re-inventing yourself.

mmbronstein.bsky.social•101 days ago

No, I promise to be grumpy sometimes

compthink.bsky.social•101 days ago

If I ask you define grumpy, does that immediately mean I am grumpy? (I believe it does).

roydanroy.bsky.social•101 days ago

That's just you being a good computer scientist!

reanfds.bsky.social•101 days ago

I nominate myself, I’m super grumpy about the hype with LLMs and want to do more fundamental research aimed at interpretability 😤

vaishnavh.bsky.social•101 days ago

You might enjoy Cafe Grumpy, it's a chain of coffee shops in NYC https://cafegrumpy.com/

branislavpecher.bsky.social•101 days ago

Does complaining about the review process and quality of reviews count as being grumpy? 😅

geomblog.bsky.social•97 days ago

Most of my papers are written because I'm grumpy about something someone said on the Internet :). I would say rage fuels me but I'm too tired so I'm just grumpy 😀

danielvanstrien.bsky.social•101 days ago

A genuinely aspirational list!

fabtar.bsky.social•100 days ago

Fantastic thank you for doing that

jimmoraga.bsky.social•101 days ago

"Stop selling vaporware. AI has its place in the solutions toolkit but it's not a panacea. [...] now, everyone seems to have the urge to implement AI solutions without understanding the options, [...] or when it is counterproductive or unhelpful."

https://www.linkedin.com/advice/1/youre-facing-skeptical-stakeholders-your-fxnaf?contributionUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28articleSegment%3A%28urn%3Ali%3AlinkedInArticle%3A7222661419542990848%2C7222661420981616640%29%2C7223837547494322176%29&utm_source=share&utm_campaign=copy_contribution_link&utm_medium=member_desktop&articleSegmentUrn=urn%3Ali%3AarticleSegment%3A%28urn%3Ali%3AlinkedInArticle%3A7222661419542990848%2C7222661420981616640%29&dashContributionUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287223837547494322176%2CarticleSegment%3A%28urn%3Ali%3AlinkedInArticle%3A7222661419542990848%2C7222661420981616640%29%29

bramzijlstra.com•101 days ago

I think I’m grumpy enough

bspartridgecis.bsky.social•101 days ago

Love the title 😂

kat-heller.bsky.social•97 days ago

Well I definitely know more people in this pack than any other, so I must have an affinity to grumps :)

jennwv.bsky.social•94 days ago

This is why we're friends.

borrrrrrrrrris.bsky.social•101 days ago

ooh ooh me me!

receipts:

cfoster.bsky.social•101 days ago

I love this

2027a.net•101 days ago

📌

eduede.bsky.social•101 days ago

noming... myself :)

karynaur.bsky.social•101 days ago

My cat approves my grumpiness. I also do ML sometimes cause I don't get paid for being grumpy :(

ramon-astudillo.bsky.social•101 days ago

@otelmo.bsky.social maybe this one is for you?

I don't know if I am grumpy. Maybe not on social media (?)

otelmo.bsky.social•101 days ago

Is there a ML trash talkers list? That's me

ramon-astudillo.bsky.social•101 days ago

You could always create one

otelmo.bsky.social•101 days ago

🤔

fernbear.bsky.social•97 days ago

I am an extremely grumpy ML person, give me an add! I dedicate nearly half an hour every day to shaking a stick at the energetic younguns to keep 'em in shape.

fernbear.bsky.social•97 days ago

One example:
Trying to warn people beforehand: https://x.com/hi_tysam/status/1816816765768241394
"I told you so" afterwards: https://x.com/hi_tysam/status/1824043847451591162

fernbear.bsky.social•97 days ago

(Minor caveat, this seems to apply less to approximate second-order optimizers better than Adam, but still seems to be a problem)

anirbit.bsky.social•101 days ago

self nominating as pretty grumpy 😾

warpandweftdata.com•100 days ago

Am I allowed to be on this one and the nice data people one at the same time?

roydanroy.bsky.social•100 days ago

No, choose.

ka81.bsky.social•98 days ago

Yep that would be me ML autistic and grumpy

raamana.bsky.social•101 days ago

this would be only truly grumpy if we get gary marcus, yann lecun and pedro domingos :)

rdoerfel.bsky.social•101 days ago

I broke my local development environment on my Windows machine. Many reasons to be grumpy. 1st I have to use Windows. 2nd I have to use Windows. 3rd ....

Sometimes, I also do machine learning.

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