this is something that experienced devs and professionals have been getting increasingly vocal about, and i think they're right to worry - ThreadSky

golikehellmachine.com • 6 days ago

this is something that experienced devs and professionals have been getting increasingly vocal about, and i think they're right to worry

Reposted from seanxtort

I maintain the real losers in the LLM equation are people without the base level experience thinking they HAVE to level up with LLMs instead of doing the work first. Pressure + lack of experience is gonna hurt the next gen workforce.

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porter79.bsky.social•6 days ago

it used to be you went to college and/or grad school to learn to make these distinctions. (Along with learning a specific body of knowledge)

To have this sort of nuanced handle of approach.. .

Weed from chaff?

what do I know All I have is more shit.
(Of which I am a master, thank you)

dbeatcatdad.bsky.social•6 days ago

Someone recently ran some of my code through an llm to "optimize" it without understanding what it was doing in the first place, or even why it even existed.

cyneheard.bsky.social•6 days ago

The "professors have to teach Gen Z about directory and file structures" example x1000 - and it won't just be "here's some key structural things we skipped", it's "how do you tackle problems that aren't 'hope you can ask the AI the right question'" - infinitely more fundamental.

tcbullfrog.bsky.social•6 days ago

I also worry about copyright lawsuits. I kind of doubt that "LLM stole your code, not me" is gonna hold up in court

I know some LLM companies have set up legal defense funds for users but that's also not something I want to rely on

dara-the-explara.bsky.social•6 days ago

I don’t think this is a particularly high risk angle for what it’s worth. There’s plenty of essentially copy pasted or paraphrased code in production systems.

But the ability of AI to produce things that aren’t fully self-contained scripts and fit into a larger system is severely lacking

dara-the-explara.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yeah, learning new stuff with AI is pretty perilous. It can be one tool but you need to primarily lean on documentation and tutorials (and just trying stuff).

dara-the-explara.bsky.social•6 days ago

When I started picking up Rust recently, I found it useful to past some example code and just ask it to explain it. This is helpful because rust is very syntactically dense.

But also a better written tutorial would have accomplished the same thing.

golikehellmachine.com•6 days ago

this *plus* the inability to actually *get* that work experience

mcmartin.bsky.social•6 days ago

We're meaningfully refreshing our pool here off of hobbyists, frankly, and that can only take you so far.

I'm less worried about continuity than I was, though; "here's 50 years of programming fads and why they situationally mattered" nerds still seem to get audiences.

mcmartin.bsky.social•6 days ago

Part of my Loud Nerd origin story is encountering a startup making an embedded device that included a fairly standard old-school text-mode screen that they had to reinvent by vaguely remembering ROM-hacking a SNES, and feeling that *it really shouldn't have come to that*

discographette.online•6 days ago

whenever I see colleagues at industry events talk about how powerful of a tool it is I just go

ah, ah that really fucking sucks dude- nobody taught you how to learn or fend for yourself with research, that is a fucking tragedy man, you have been robbed.

jerryn13.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yep, the next gen tech workforce is basically in Eastern Europe and BRIC countries since we have been aggressively offshoring development work for about a generation.

stortorano.bsky.social•6 days ago

I worry about my kids (genz and gena) and their ability to reach the lowest rungs of the ladder.

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