A few years ago some Canadians wishfully offered to incorporate Turks and Caicos islands into the social safety net, postal service and transport system. Their people had the same but even more polite reaction Canadians are having now.
Yeah, every sovereign group or nation could pursue amalgamation as a mutual process, no need for inappropriate invitations or assumptions.
We also have our share of colonial past, capitalist resource grabbing companies etc… i hope the next Canadian government can continue repair and reconcile
I support Carney. I worry, tho, that he’s been silent re racial and environmental justice. I hope he will defend health care, multicultural Canadian values, and Indigenous sovereignty
But he will defend and protect our country & economy as best he can vs 🇺🇸 aggression. That gets my vote for now
This is an excellent article. The scandal is Trump trying to take over our neighbor, who has been nothing but supportive by force. The tariffs are just a means to get to that point. I support our friends there and hope one day we can mend this very damaged relationship 🇨🇦
This is just one subject: how about Ukraine, Mexico, Panama, Denmark (Greenland), EU, NATO, Japan, ….? And o, by the way he is destroying the US also from within. Your felon King. When do you start cleaning up the mess Americans? Time is ticking.
The Dems are a hard-right party compared to Canada's Liberals.
We wouldn't be making distinctions between D's and R's. Especially when even the D's are also blithely speculating about how a nightmarish war of annexation would benefit them.
In the UK people make the assumption that the Rep/Dem split is similar to the Tory/Labour split. They don't realise that even most of the Tories aren't as right wing as the Democrats.
Truly. I’m a dual citizen but if Dems want to annex Canada because they assume (counterfactually) that post-annexation we in 🇨🇦 would be allowed to vote, and would choose to vote for a conqueror … they are selfish, reprehensible, and deeply confused.
This still strikes me as the more likely of the potential military incursions, if only because the racism of MAGA aligns more with violence against brown Others
You expect to see military strikes on your southern border? Northern border to? You might wanna reconsider your Calexit and with some other blue states join Canada. MAGA fall out. That’s what Trump and his supporters deserve.
Yep. The deployment of US troops at the border will increase, likely to be used as a threaded military invasion to try to force Mexico to accept U.S. military strikes against supposed cartel targets, but ultimately to support seizing Panama Canal & exerting dominance into all of the Americas.
And so many folks keep acting like he’s not serious about Greenland or Canada, but that demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what all of this is about and what’s coming in the near future. If Trump stays in power, it’s WWIII.
Yep. He needs to be stopped by Americans, and fast. Before he sacrifices YOUR children to his war machine. His kids have those hereditary bone spurs. And cowardice. They won't be sacrificed. Just yours. And ours.
I’ve been in Canada since 2008. Never seen anything remotely like this. The resistance mood is real and now became mainstream. It’s everywhere we go, like your neighborhood grocery store.
Thank you so much. I'm so disappointed that it took Trudeau basically telling the US that it was serious before a lot of the US stopped thinking it was a joke.
Until then, the general discourse was "if he did it, would it be good or bad" when we were like "WE DON'T WANT THIS."
Ha, we should all get together and tell them "What are you talking about? We'd all vote red if you took us over" and just conveniently leave out that our political colours are opposite the Americans.
It's noteworthy that the only time he refused to engage with his usual annexation threats was when questioned during the meeting with Starmer.
The same meeting where he orgasmed all over the letter delivered from King Charles. Read his comments on the British Monarchy; his reverence is not subtle.
I think a lot of people in the world are not laughing anymore. Nice article, but what are Americans gonna do about all the BS their felon king is doing? They just gonna sit and let it happen?
Land of the liars and home of the traitors.
Canada be lobbing missiles into lower 48. sabotage in all states. ships sinking. they will do just what anybody else would do when invaded. they ain't taking what dumpy pants is dishing out.
Excellent writing, & right there with you in anger & frustration over this. It absolutely is a scandal.
I appreciate our friends to the north (& south), & hope they one day forgive us, keeping in mind that most of us despise trump & co., & are profoundly embarrassed by his words & actions.
Imagine if Claudia Sheinbaum started to say the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo is invalid and she is going to officially take back some or all of Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. Americans would be rightfully upset and threatening war. Yet we treat Trump saying a similar thing about Canada with a shrug?
There's a big difference. The US opportunistically snatched away territory that belonged to Mexico, so they at least have a basis in reality for their complaints. Canada has defended itself against the US only - never attacked or seized (and kept) territory they claimed.
It still boggles the mind that we have a lunatic threatening to annex Canada, Greenland, parts of Panama and Palestine, and everyone has to treat this with seriousness because we Americans stupidly elected him to the most powerful position on Earth.
Americans are joking (?) with Canadians about coming here are refugees. Like, a) there’s no escaping, and b) stand and fight at home. Canada doesn’t want cowards.
We don't want American apologies, and we don't want them masochistically saying, "Fuck us up!", or, "Take my state!".
No. We want Americans to fix their country and clean up their own mess. And get off our backs.
Any ideas on how to fight back when the US military is primed to shoot American "peaceful protesters"?
There's an enemy with his hand in our Treasury, cutting off aid to foreign countries as well as, most likely, our own seniors who earned it. A third of the country cheers it on.
Except to come here as tourists. Let's politely help them spend as much money as possible while we Canadians avoid the US like the plague (which may be what is coming next down there with their health policies). Maybe require vaccinations to enter, but definitely take their money.
I'm thinking when he finds out if Canada becomes a state, there will be 2 senators, over 50 congress people, and over 50 electoral votes, most of which would be center left he'll probably change what's ever left of his mind.
"Lately, Trump — a man who would never try to do anything world-historically rash like ending democracy in America — has told every news camera that would listen and broadcast his message to the world that he would like to rule Canada, one of the U.S.’s most vital allies."
Also: "it would be easier to dismiss Trump’s cartoonishly imperialistic talk of conquering Canada, a country of roughly 40M souls, if this weren’t occurring against the backdrop of an admin working to impose its degenerate MAGA incarnation of American imperialism on a war-torn European nation"
Thank you for writing this. The normalization & belittling of this in the Papers Of Record has been deeply shameful, when it should have immediately ended his presidency.
Trump is a disrespectful disaster of a President and the only reason he gets away with his BS is that Republicans in congress enable him. vote all the Republicans out & give the house & senate to Democrats because when they have the majority they will be able to stand up to Trump.
There are some rhetorical similarities to Russia's expansionist playbook for sure. However, the one reason this makes no sense is that if Canada were to become a state it would almost certainly be Democrat.
the article actually mentions a Trump official saying in an interview that we would be a territory like Puerto Rico, for the exact reason that we'd be too democratic, meaning we wouldn't have any electoral college votes.
You started out right: what would you think will happen (and is already happening) with the Ukrainians who live in annexed territories? Do you think that you would be free to vote your new king out?
I'm considering donating a truckload of Norwegian møsbrømlefse to the White House. Filled with caramelized goat cheese and sour cream, butter or sugar. It's a weapon of mass infarction.
Because the American’s who voted for this schmuck have never travelled outside of this country and if they have, very few I’m sure, are the bombastic schmucks who nobody likes visiting their countries.
I’m just hoping the Canadian people realize that tens of millions of Americans knew damn well what a disaster a Trump 2.0 presidency was going to be and voted against it
Yes, I understand that. I’m upset with the third of the population who couldn’t be bothered to vote.
But furthermore, it is up to YOU to fix this. All Americans who see this is bullshit, talk to your friends, neighbours, coworkers and shout it out loud that this is wrong. Take back your country!
the face of a liar who knows he’s lying, knows the reporter knows he’s lying, and is enjoying watching the reporter follow the catastrophic etiquette that mandates not telling him he’s lying.
The media in the US is failing to capture how angry Canadians are. The relationship between our two nations is irreparably damaged. Even in traditionally right-wing and pro-American parts of the country, the anger is high.
We in Europe see the betrayal of Ukraine, you, the threats to Denmark, plenty others. We see the lies, the idiot behavior. We are awaiting our tariffs, the destructing of world order, everything. We don’t see Americans standing up to this. Irreparably broken. Same here. Do Americans realize that?
I think for you Americans it’s time to wake up. He is not only destroying the world order we had, he is also destroying America. First you will have your king, than he will be your dictator.
This was excellent! Exactly right. Americans need to take this seriously. And everyone including Americans and Canadians needs to stop being so naïve about propaganda and destabilization. The war starts when the fibbing and yelling starts not only when the guns go off.
Here's another article on that same topic. We in Canada need to fight the forthcoming destabilization. Trump/Musk will use proxy political parties and fake polls among other things. And we absolutely need the help of Americans of goodwill in this battle. https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-trump-is-planning
I take issue with a byline that examplifies American exceptionalism: “Americans would never accept another nation threatening our country the way Trump insists on doing with Canada”.
What makes this writer think Canadians are **accepting** of trump’s aggression?
Canada has:
Universal healthcare
Better education
Longer lifespans
Up to 18 months parental leave
Dental coverage for low-income Canadians
More liveable cities
A higher ranking on the happiness scale
Two official languages
If trumps lips are moving, he’s lying ,trump has two goals , staying out of jail and following Putins orders ,the U.S. is now a Russian territory, remember to thank a republican(NAZI) when you meet one .
He wants to run an oligarchy like Putin, with the wealthy & business types paying him. Look at his selling meme coins, people paying 500k & more to meet with him. Putin is his role model & one of his owners (Musk the other)
Let's say it! America needs to be taken over by another country or group of countries. It's careering out of control, and this is causing disturbance worldwide. We didn't vote for this, yet it's affecting us very badly. 20 people died today in Ukraine. Can't we vote to shut this down?
I hope that it doesn't take martial law for average Americans to understand how deadly serious this really is. You guys have to rise and resist. Please. Canadians and the global community are counting on it.
If any American steps foot in Canada without an invite they will go home in this. We are not fucking around. You think Viet Nam was bad? WE ALL LOOK the same. We will fuck you all up. Just try it. You will find out fast.
I am extremely tired of the framing that this would be Trump, or Trump and some of his cronies invading Canada.
The threat is the US military invades Canada. This is American aggression and would be the American armed forces. (only one small acknowledgement of the marines at the end)
Maybe? It’s about time: what to think of the betrayal of Ukraine (read the Budapest memorandum), threats on Denmark (Greenland), Mexico, Panama, trade wars, lies and extortion. Your felon king is not only destroying your county but the whole world. You just gonna sit and watch it happen?
Thank you for taking this seriously. His attention span is near zero so the fact that he repeats this over and over means he is giving it serious consideration
He’s been talking Manifest Destiny since his first term. When I noticed Boebert and Stephen Miller saying it in speeches, I knew they’d come for us. The Project 2025 ghouls clearly whispered in his ear.
It's destabilizing. Technically, the US is engaged in a cold war against Canada. It's nowhere near Cambodia 1970 or Chile 1973. But those are two nations the US fucked with and changed forever. Don't let it happen, friends. Fight back.
I understood China also invoking tariffs on you. Is this after a little conversation with Trump on their possible tariffs? Helping him to economically destabilizing you for a favor? Would be a typical Trump deal.
I am from Europe, maybe it’s time to turn you back to the US and somehow join us.
Crickets from USn relatives. Have always acted like everything in US is superior(ha!)& this is no different. Naturally to them our response is overblown b/c naturally we have no context in our teeny country & know nothing about the world. USns thinking Cdns don't know about the world is some irony!
Currently listening to @rbreich.bsky.social and Heilmann talking about this annexation threat and laughing it off, quite literally. It passes me off man!
The guy is the fucking president of the most powerful country on earth! This is unacceptable! Act like it!
Oh I respect the hell outta him. I was just real annoyed with his (and Helimann) on this particular topic.
I dunno, it's weird to realize how our country is just a footnote to Americans. Even the good ones. The Bulwark massively pissed me off about this too.
It’s gone international - apparently the rival gangs are all Sri Lankan! (For context, virtually everyone in Toronto is either a new immigrant or a first generation Canadian. Myself included.)
We’re not in a welcoming mood for American fugitives right now. We’d rather your young kids stay there and fight back before he attacks Canada. They won’t be safe here if he invades, anyway, remember. It’s on Americans to fix this, not make themselves another country’s burden.
Thank you for writing this. Thank you. It’s felt like no one in the US is standing up for their northern friend and ally. Please continue to raise this. We love Americans and hate what is now happening.
Canada is in the same boat as Ukraine. A small country next to a more powerful nation controlled by a kleptocrat whose world-view is stuck in the 1970s.
What, realistically, would the U.S. military hierarchy do in the event that Trump tried to follow through with one of his more insane suggestions? Invading Greenland or Canada, for example...
Thanks for that. I really get irked with the chuckling poohpoohing of even those who are not happy with trump, treating it like it's just a joke, just what he does. He's starting to sound an awful lot like putin when talking about the imaginary border. Start taking him seriously.
Nah, fuck that. We’d be outnumbered by major US cities close to the border. Gun nuts and racists and people too apathetic to vote against fascists can stay down there and figure their own shit out.
Thank you, Asawin. Americans think this is a joke or would be a willing thing. I’ve spent this month checking if my insurance covers war damage (it does not) and researching what military or reserve units can use an old, fat broad like me. We Canadians are deadly serious about defending ourselves.
No war damage or coverage for forced refuge-seeking. Hilariously, though, my car’s comprehensive covers “missile damage”. The girl at Aviva was surprised by that one.
I love all my American friends dearly and would die to protect them (I'm even trying to get one of then up here so I can marry and spend the rest of my life with her) but I have been feeling so gaslit that so few of them are taking this seriously.
I take everything Trump etc says they will do seriously.
Everything.
I'm so sorry as an American in a once fair land I feel such shame.
We shouldn't be allowed to travel honestly without extreme vetting, many of us are horrid.
“During a private phone call last month, according to a Friday New York Times report, Trump “told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary. He offered no further explanation.”
The thing I don’t understand about Trump is how he can just pull something out of his ass and say it’s true. How the fuck does he know anything about the “treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries” is, or isn’t, valid?
Everything with him is a pretext to something nefarious.
Someone put that in his ear. It's not like there is any shortage of folks in the administration who would like to relitigate things that were settled in the 19th century.
We've gotten used to Trump, because we know he lies so much. It blinded us to seeing the real nature of Trump which is abhorrent to us (really). We tell ourselves he really doesn't mean it. He's bad, but he can't be that bad. It's only a tactic. For Canadians, it's easier to face the truth.
Well, I’m Canadian, even though I’ve lived in the US since 1977 and I see exactly what he is. I don’t tell myself anything but the truth when it comes to Trump.
It's astoundingly stupid to treat it like it's a normal political disagreement, but you're right. Dems refuse to even say mean things about him if you go by policy from the leadership there.
what does he know about bitcoin? or Ukraine? or abortion? he has creeps "advising" him who are pushing him to things he knows absolutely nothing about because he's a demented dunce
Thank you from 🇨🇦. I think Trudeau should start talking about annexing Alaska. Start calling Governor Dunleavy “Premier Dunleavy.” Call it our “cherished 11th Province.” Say that Canadians feel very strongly that most Alaskans want to join Canada. Let’s see how Americans like that kind of talk.
Well, if Americans disagree with their felon king, the shouldn’t just talk, but stand up to him. Apart from Canada he is destroying much more and also not only outside the States. As for annexing: some blue states can just leave the union and join Canada. No aggression needed. That’s the Trump way.
I appreciate your comments & am glad to see them on the timeline. I think by and large we are in agreement. BTW, just an aside, I am well aware of the risk Trump is to the world. I’ve seen him in action since the late 70s/early 80s. I’ve said it before & will say again, he is a menace to ALL society
Canada needs to stand defiant and tell this orange tinged convicted rapist tax cheat election interfering morbidly obese demented felon nazi to go fuck himself.
Almost anyone with any sense knows that Trump is demented and not in his right mind. Mexico and Canada are playing nice where China is basically telling Trump that they dare him to do something really fucking stupid. The aren’t going to fuck around. The rest of the world is making plans to go on
Yet another message of thanks from a Canadian, specifically one who lives in NY and is surrounded by well-meaning liberal friends who keep telling me it’s nothing, and who are about to have a Rolling Stone post rubbed in their faces.
You are right, because this is huge. Like many things Trump is saying and doing. Its outrageous Americans seems to just sit by and let it al happen. With this they are complicit. They all become liars and traitors. Any free and brave American left?
I expect when Krasnov does finally come to the UK for his ‘special’ state visit (not any time soon), King Charles (or ‘the Institution’) will have a quiet word with him about this. The public won’t know about it, though.
Have you or any other journalists asked the President or anyone else in the White House why this was never brought up during the campaign? Him wanting to invade and annex our neighbor seems like something that we would have wanted to know before the election. Ditto Greenland and the Panama Canal.
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We also have our share of colonial past, capitalist resource grabbing companies etc… i hope the next Canadian government can continue repair and reconcile
But he will defend and protect our country & economy as best he can vs 🇺🇸 aggression. That gets my vote for now
We wouldn't be making distinctions between D's and R's. Especially when even the D's are also blithely speculating about how a nightmarish war of annexation would benefit them.
Like hey guys, trade your multi-party voting options for either of centre-right or way-way-right.
That’s the most libbed up bullshit I’ve ever heard in my life.
You’re STILL fucking monarchists!
You’d either join, or you’d be like every leftist in America.
You’re not fucking special.
You wouldn’t magically create a third way as though Americans don’t try that ever cycle.
I fully expect to see military strikes on Mexico this year
Until then, the general discourse was "if he did it, would it be good or bad" when we were like "WE DON'T WANT THIS."
Even if there were, you don't exactly invade a country because you care what its citizens want...
I very much agree on the elections, and if Trump didn't win, I don't think this one would have been, either.
The same meeting where he orgasmed all over the letter delivered from King Charles. Read his comments on the British Monarchy; his reverence is not subtle.
Land of the liars and home of the traitors.
I appreciate our friends to the north (& south), & hope they one day forgive us, keeping in mind that most of us despise trump & co., & are profoundly embarrassed by his words & actions.
A decent U.S.-American, but most importantly, a decent human being
No. We want Americans to fix their country and clean up their own mess. And get off our backs.
There's an enemy with his hand in our Treasury, cutting off aid to foreign countries as well as, most likely, our own seniors who earned it. A third of the country cheers it on.
Serious Q.
It will never be ok again.
C-a-n-a-d-a w-i-l-l n-e-v-e-r b-e-c-o-m-e a s-t-a-t-e.
Enough of the "if Canada becomes a state" crap!
Thank you. Stay mad.
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And frankly, I'd enjoy skinning, gutting, bleeding, then chopping one into steaks.
I'm a vegetarian.
Sorry my tax dollars support the Bully in Chief. You guys don't deserve this crap.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war
Keep pounding down those cheeseburgers!
Yes, please send the evil bastard all the møsbrømlefse. Extra butter & sugar, please.
He's not the most refined being, so, if possible, make them cheeseburger-shaped, to trick him into eating them.
I was going to do Denmark, western Sweden, and Norway late this spring but fear he's made US tourists pariahs w his Greenland talk.
But furthermore, it is up to YOU to fix this. All Americans who see this is bullshit, talk to your friends, neighbours, coworkers and shout it out loud that this is wrong. Take back your country!
Those reporters and anchors with their PR bureau approaches (and girlie/bro interview personas) are going to get someone killed.
Lies line this will stoke up their base to be ok with more aggression to Canada, Mexico or other targets.
https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-trump-is-planning
What makes this writer think Canadians are **accepting** of trump’s aggression?
The statement is aimed at the aggressor - the aggressor would never accept the behavior it’s inflicting on others.
My word y’all - **5%** of Americans support invading Canada. Botulism has higher approval.
Universal healthcare
Better education
Longer lifespans
Up to 18 months parental leave
Dental coverage for low-income Canadians
More liveable cities
A higher ranking on the happiness scale
Two official languages
Why would we give any of that up?
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The threat is the US military invades Canada. This is American aggression and would be the American armed forces. (only one small acknowledgement of the marines at the end)
ffs, own it
Maybe it should be considered in those terms?
I am from Europe, maybe it’s time to turn you back to the US and somehow join us.
The guy is the fucking president of the most powerful country on earth! This is unacceptable! Act like it!
I dunno, it's weird to realize how our country is just a footnote to Americans. Even the good ones. The Bulwark massively pissed me off about this too.
There are things you should be able to categorically say, "there is zero chance of that happening".
"US invades Canada" is no longer one of those things and that should horrify you. Any probability other than ZERO is unacceptable.
Everything.
I'm so sorry as an American in a once fair land I feel such shame.
We shouldn't be allowed to travel honestly without extreme vetting, many of us are horrid.
We hope to be able to welcome you back in soon but I fear otherwise.
I'd fight for Canada
Everything with him is a pretext to something nefarious.
Trump is a treacherous traitor.
canadians: he's the only one who wants war with you. not us. sorry.
We in Canada are scared and angry, and hope ordinary Americans will get up in arms about this.
Hope it breaks through.