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anneapplebaum.bsky.social • 1 day ago

The question we must now ask: How much damage does the US want to do to Ukrainians?
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ggdepa.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as Trump's owner in the Kremlin wants it to do.

umaija.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as Putin wants...that's clear for all to see.

robpountney.bsky.social•1 day ago

It is beginning to look like there is no limit...

stephaniekzoo.bsky.social•1 day ago

Answer: in service of Putin, whatever the Kremlin wants.

balmachreuchie.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as is commensurate with their sadistic impulses - that seems to be a big part of what governs their outlook and actions.
They’re enjoying themselves. Worth paying attention to the psychoanalytic aspect, horrifying as that is.

vismayor.bsky.social•1 day ago

What next? US will bomb Kiev?

stevensarens.bsky.social•1 day ago

What's the next step? That Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, and Raytheon Technologies open a rep in Moscow?

ysabee.bsky.social•1 day ago

God I hope not.

isolar76.bsky.social•1 day ago

He's desperate for his Nobel prize isn't he

unsurprised.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's Trump, and as much as possible so Putin doesn't poison Trump....

hjelms.bsky.social•1 day ago

What is completely incomprehensible is that Trump one day announces to the world that the US and Ukraine are now ready for an agreement, and then still chooses to withhold vital information in advance. But conversely, it will soon become clear whether Trump will abide by the agreement.

oneplanetleft.bsky.social•1 day ago

Whatever it takes to get his 'deal' of the century Anne. Kick them when they are down. He cares nothing about the lives of Ukrainians (notice yesterday he said so many Russians have died?)

I have learned to hate all traitors, and there is no disease that I spit on more than treachery. Aeschylus

janetanderson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Dante places them at the very bottom of hell

thetomfrank.bsky.social•1 day ago

“How much damage does the evil, corrupt, ignorant Trump administration want to do to Ukrainians.” I believe the majority of the “U.S” are horrified by these actions. Don’t lump me in with those murdering pigs.

kilgorepstrag.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as he can and not only to Ukraine but also to US. However Trump and Putin are not the best strategists so there is a hope they f. it up somehow.

petrapc.bsky.social•1 day ago

This will definitely kill many. Real time data are crucial for repelling Russians attacks (not only).

katwalably.bsky.social•1 day ago

Don’t know why zelensky wants to continue with a deal with the lying traitor

katwalably.bsky.social•1 day ago

Mixed signals as usual, he’s, dumpster, is a very sick, cruel person

charliesaxecoburg.bsky.social•1 day ago

The question we must now ask: Is the US still a member of the West or is it now a member of the East?

cesarroberti.bsky.social•1 day ago

The cruelty continues.

pericelekton.bsky.social•1 day ago

Another day of infamy.

per47.bsky.social•1 day ago

This must be a solid ground for impeachment.

cottagedweller.bsky.social•1 day ago

Remember how all those repug congress critters kept visiting Russia a few years ago?

cottagedweller.bsky.social•1 day ago

The GOP majority are all complicit, and likely being blackmailed.

analytico.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as possible. They want to carve UA up like Germany and RU carved up Poland. Trumps evil is open-ended. Sry to say. And what did u expect from Tulsi Gabbard?

cassandrabelga.bsky.social•23 hours ago

How much damage the US is willing to take itself by siding with the Russians. The Russians have a GDP comparable with that of Italy and as such they can’t be of any value against the Chinese who will take what they need in the far east of Russia anyway.

e2dot7182818284.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Right now: A lot. Imo risking the alliance & international organization system (& not just NATO) that several generations of us politicians & citizens have spent 80 years+ on building https://archive.is/2025.03.05-112704/https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/03/04/the-lesson-from-trumps-ukrainian-weapons-embargo

anotherscott.bsky.social•1 day ago

My guess is as much as Trump thinks will make Putin like him.

zandber.bsky.social•1 day ago

The question we must ask now is how can the damage already done be contained.

mischamouse.bsky.social•1 day ago

I honestly wouldn't trust our government's intelligence right now. Ukraine is much better off without it. I'm heartened by Europe's increasing support. I don't know how to help except to voice support. I'm looking for ways though. Always.

rebeccabaltz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Some of us want none. I’m so mad but not surprised. Trump is a garbage person

ptrlds.bsky.social•1 day ago

putin is pushing #krasnov Hard...
possibly bcse russia also suffers badly from attrition.

putin may just have only a few months before Europe ramps up support and arms-production.

cottagedweller.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as it takes for Putin to get what he wants.

soderbrod.nafofellas.com•1 day ago

It could appear that they want to hand Ukraine to russia as tribute to Putin 🤔

hannekeh-blago.bsky.social•1 day ago

Looks like a mobster's way of negotiating - aka Trump's art of the deal. He reverses his truth right the minute he gets access to Ukraine's valuables.

sprkrc.bsky.social•1 day ago

Apparently, a lot. All in the name of selfishness and cruelty.

hididee.bsky.social•1 day ago

salthand.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as they can without boots on the ground...

owwmyeye.bsky.social•1 day ago

Horrible :(

pompe0.bsky.social•1 day ago

Specifically Trump. The president of peace. What a joke.

stephaneprevost.bsky.social•1 day ago

The answer is: as much as possible, but just below the threshold at which your people would leave their comfortable couches to protest this treason. Krasnov is doing a great job. Because of your population’s apathy, ruZZia now controls your country from inside. Congratulations.

davidpaintstuff.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is essentially the USA protecting legitimate Russia military and infrastructure targets.

jmkar.bsky.social•1 day ago

The US doesn't want to, Trump does. He wants to see Putins dreams come true.

mjmilano.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is a spy novel plot in the making. Agents go rogue trying to save Ukrainian sources and cause.

keithlabrecque.bsky.social•1 day ago

as much as it takes to bring them to heel (sadly)

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe is not doing enough to push back against this.

hjelms.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe will push back

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•1 day ago

We'll bloody have to.

janetanderson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Oh yes we bloody will.

fworsley.bsky.social•1 day ago

What Ukranian people? There is no such thing as an Ukrainian Nation. There is only Russia.

mrmusichead.bsky.social•1 day ago

Careful there, need an irony button

mtnthc.bsky.social•1 day ago

Their SBU appears to do excellent work in Russia.

davidlivingstone.bsky.social•1 day ago

Saw this, and although I find it funny, it's also so incredibly disturbing and sad because it so accurately depicts what we are seeing right now. I never thought I'd see this in my lifetime:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1j4014j/the_dutch_public_broadcaster_made_a_sketch_on_the/

adanelife.bsky.social•1 day ago

As the English Professor so eloquently said earlier…

Fuck you, you fucked-up fuck, and fuck all the fuckers who willingly fuck with you, especially. You can all fuck all the way off, and then fuck off some more.

mrmusichead.bsky.social•1 day ago

Cunts.

kitty3519.bsky.social•1 day ago

At this point how or why would you trust it anyway?

juanlauda.bsky.social•1 day ago

Americans need to understand that an America that has stood down its cyber and counter espionage forces is basically an America without a nuclear deterrent against Russia and by extension China and North Korea.

gordonvincent.bsky.social•1 day ago

How ever much Putin commands.

tommi53.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as Russia wants.

revdrtraci.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump is a tantruming toddler who wants to destroy whatever bothers him in the moment.

Trump is a Russian asset

bigjuicythoughts.bsky.social•1 day ago

When the USA finally reaps the karma it is sowing, I am certain the schadenfreude (that most of us will experience around the world) is going to feel like 100 little orgasms in a row. They seem to have completely forgotten that the Middle East exists to hate them.

kindzma.bsky.social•1 day ago

all of it... The US are now run by Putin

sicilian-sky.bsky.social•1 day ago

A better question would be, "How many Ukrainian women and children does the US want to die because Zelensky didn't wear a suit or express thanks"

landslake.bsky.social•1 day ago

Never Ever Buying US Products Again.

landslake.bsky.social•1 day ago

If i was Zelensky i would not go, his hands are already tied together and now blind folded also. Trump is worse than Putin. Trump is a sadist.

nkxq.bsky.social•1 day ago

Tough decision. Trump might allow some military aid through, if given a deal, a victory and a big enough ego boost.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

landslake.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well I dont trust Trump anymore, maybe Zelensky gets a fair deal with the EU. Because the metal deal alone is not enough for Trump, Ukraine may not even fight back anymore. Because otherwise they dont do enough for peace, maybe Zelensky needs to go. It will never be enough.

nkxq.bsky.social•1 day ago

I fully believe you. The deal itself gives nothing to Ukraine (if news summaries are accurate). The only reason to sign is to please the 🟠🤡 and wish that something good follows.

landslake.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes, but then all the minirals are gone and Russia may bomb the hell out if your people anyway. The US is no more,, its like Russia now.

nkxq.bsky.social•1 day ago

You are right, unfortunately.

hilde45.bsky.social•1 day ago

Isn't that the same as asking how much does Putin want to do? (Unless you're talking about the America people, who feel quite differently.)

curious-bystander.bsky.social•1 day ago

If the 🍊💩🤡 got his way, the US would be there fighting alongside the russian invaders.

cedarplace.bsky.social•1 day ago

Under the 1994 Treaty USA signed with Ukraine, UK and Russia, to induce Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons to Russia, America agreed to provide security for Ukraine in the event of aggression.

Trump broke that Treaty,
like Russia.

Who would enter into an agreement with USA now?

vb123.bsky.social•1 day ago

Unfortunately, many Americans feel that we don’t need anyone else to have alliances with. There is still a strong sense of isolationism that runs through the fabric of the US and its citizens.

Many Americans feel that our geography allows us to go it alone.

jekmann.bsky.social•1 day ago

That doesn’t even bother me. But isolation means staying out of what happens in the rest of the world. No extortions to get minerals, support of genocide to get land etc. True American isolationism would feel like a relief.

rocketcheddar.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as Russia wants to. They’re one of the same now.

ledwithdave.bsky.social•1 day ago

Can we assume that intelligence sharing with Moscow is happening already now?

heikemaria.bsky.social•1 day ago

Damage? Trump wants Ukraine to lose the war. Putin didn't manage it, but with support from the US, it will happen. Kind of a "Yalta" deal. Putin gets the territory and is allowed to subdue the people, and the US exploits the "treasures of the soil". I want to puke... new world order.

massdisillusion.bsky.social•1 day ago

Amongst the Intel that US is withholding from Ukraine may be Starlink for guiding missiles inside Russia. Musk's Starlink. Treason.

rlhdlw.bsky.social•1 day ago

The question is how much help does the US want to provide to Putin, whose military and economy are on the brink of collapse.
For Trump and Vance, damage to Ukraine is just a collateral.

greginma.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as gives Republicans their jollies. Seriously, the USA has been hijacked by a lying megalomaniac and his racist followers. Hang them all!

secretariat7.bsky.social•1 day ago

There’s no question. Trump is on Putin’s side.

sandyallnock.bsky.social•1 day ago

This made me think about removal of secret service protection for ppl he doesnt like. He's hoping his personal allies can now take them out. 😡

mdit.bsky.social•1 day ago

Guess who they are going to share intel (and munitions including but not limited to cyberweapons) with instead.

One of these days I'll wake up to a declaration he's returned Alaska to Russia as a good-will bonus.

imdumfounded.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is that really a question? Trump is a psychopath and a Russian asset. He will not rest until all of Ukraine is Russian territory

grandpadave.bsky.social•1 day ago

Next internet.

quidnovi-24.bsky.social•1 day ago

And Eastern Europe,
Canada, Groenland, Mexico?
Napoleon’s blockade is coming. It will be Donald’s great
accomplishment.

quidnovi-24.bsky.social•1 day ago

He dreams of a Continental
System against China instead of Great-Britain.

steventenraa.bsky.social•1 day ago

…and how much damage does the US to itself

marisafox.bsky.social•1 day ago

And who does Trump work for?

wineme.bsky.social•1 day ago

maximum, whatever putin wants and is revenge for the call and first impeachment

gripyoldman.bsky.social•1 day ago

We don’t have to ask at all. Maximum is the answer

progcapitalism.bsky.social•1 day ago

1) The USA had already stopped collecting Intelligence on Russia.

2)Intelligence is a two-way street. The US will not get feedback on their military equipment and Russian war tactics.

3)The EU will stop sharing Intelligence with USA.

In each case USA is the loser.

peterbarabas.bsky.social•1 day ago

The Europeans, at least some of their leaders understand now they need to step up. Whether they will do and whether it will be sufficient - that's another matter.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/eutelsat-shares-more-than-triple-value-investors-bet-oneweb-satellites-2025-03-04/

level90.bsky.social•1 day ago

I guess you would have to address that question to Putin.

helen121.bsky.social•1 day ago

Pretty clear it actively wants Ukraine to be defeated. As we have said all along, Trump wants to hand Ukraine to Putin on a platter. It just wants the mineral rights first.

kennethstremsky.bsky.social•1 day ago

My advice to USA businesses, foreign businesses including companies that sell weapons to USA is demand payment in full before any work is done and make sure you get the payment in gold, silver, foreign currencies you are willing to accept.

Donald Trump is DEADBEAT BUM.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/politics/supreme-court-usaid-foreign-aid/index.html?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

maol01.bsky.social•1 day ago

Next step will be sending intelligence and weapons to Russia. It’s coming..

michaleenoge.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ukraine, Europe, are you stupid? Forget the United States.

erikberg.bsky.social•1 day ago

The Russian asset thinks we won’t notice or care when Russia rolls across Ukraine and up to the Moldova and Polish borders.

johnmaun.bsky.social•1 day ago

Whatever Putin orders Stumpy the Great Orange Traitor to do.

altim.bsky.social•1 day ago

The cruelty is the point.

paranoidfactoid2.bsky.social•1 day ago

The question Europe and Commonwealth States must ask: When do we kick the United States out of NATO and exit all intelligence sharing agreements?

That time will come soon.

visage66.bsky.social•1 day ago

They might want to think about the fact that the US and Russia have them in a classic pincer movement.

paranoidfactoid2.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe and the Commonwealth States have no option but to go it alone. It will almost certainly mean war, for sure with Russia. But perhaps with the United States too.

juanriera.bsky.social•1 day ago

This raises the question of whether networks like Starlink, which manage critical defense information, should be in private hands, allowing for private revenue and risking extortion of governments.

mgravko.bsky.social•1 day ago

yes

mdijkhuis.bsky.social•1 day ago

Seems to me this is not the right way to get a Nobel prize.

lattengustl.bsky.social•1 day ago

This might be about depleting Europe of it's resources so that we have less to defend Greenland and help Canada when the US govt attack them.

e2dot7182818284.bsky.social•21 hours ago

I think a more proximate motive might be the fact that the USA is currently the biggest oil & gas producer, so a PetroState

Adding the Russian PetroState to the Saudi Arabian PetroState alliance may look attractive to people & politicians not up to speed on clean energy technologies?

lattengustl.bsky.social•20 hours ago

Interesting point. The🌎 will depend on oil & gas for some more time. Being able to determine the price could be profitable, indeed.

My post was misworded, I'm afraid. Meant to say that withholding military aid might help deplete Europe of its own *military* resources that are then given to Ukraine.

e2dot7182818284.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Well, clean energy tech is further along than some think, also on the demand side⬇️

According to Bill McKibben there are ~111 Trillion USD worth of fossil on the books of owners
~100 Trillion of which would need to stay in the ground for 1.5C to be possible (w/ overshoot)

https://bsky.app/profile/janrosenow.bsky.social/post/3lizolzqwqc26

xxjustpinkxx.bsky.social•1 day ago

Drumpft doesn’t care

jussijk.bsky.social•1 day ago

As much as possible. And also to Europe, we must start treating them as a hostile nation.

josstrengholt.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump is scum, sorry

tykebrahe.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thank goodness from Frank Gardner, just made the point to Jeremy Vine - in response to the canard that the Mango Mussolini ‘really wants peace’ - that his peace efforts are entirely one-sided. No criticism of or concessions sought from Putin . Vine said nothing in response, of course

glamgal.bsky.social•1 day ago

May tRump roast in Hell with his ilk.

smlrun.bsky.social•1 day ago

let innocent die women children. trump n his minions don’t care

treelimb.bsky.social•1 day ago

Honestly? I wouldn't trust intelligence from this regime.

vismayor.bsky.social•1 day ago

Good point.

jamming.bsky.social•1 day ago

And Europe, or rest of the world with exception of Russia.

aurifex.bsky.social•1 day ago

hejodernoh.bsky.social•1 day ago

Pure evil.

littleredmagahat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Find out when Trump sends US troops to fight along with the Russians.

tattttms.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump is compromised and can't ignore Putin .... I'm sure Putin has promised Trump a cut of the spoils if he helps collapse the Ukrainian government.

artemidorus.bsky.social•1 day ago

US will let russia do the heavy lifting from now on. EU talks a lot, but will do nothing, even if putin invades Poland. Just more talk shops and plans. With this reposnse, russian tanks will be in Paris in five years.

muahdoob.bsky.social•1 day ago

You’re a clown. Europe would annihilate Russia in weeks if they attacked Poland. More accurately, Poland and Finland would slaughter the Russians.

piotrgontarczyk.bsky.social•1 day ago

Oh stop it, you!

grannyonthego.bsky.social•1 day ago

Honestly, this might be for the best for Ukraine. With the Russian assets that are currently running U.S. intelligence services, it would have all probably been disinformation designed to help Russia. 😮‍💨

expatsy.bsky.social•1 day ago

The other five eyes can share

ariesdux.bsky.social•1 day ago

I‘ve read that CIA „requests“ i.e. forces other secret services not to provide information, too. I hope there soon comes a time when Felon47 and his crew of bastards will pay for that, eye for an eye

janetanderson.bsky.social•1 day ago

No, they can’t. We’ve just been told we can’t.

expatsy.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sp the 5 eyes n eed to toss out the USA - how can they possibly be trusted?

janetanderson.bsky.social•19 hours ago

Trouble is that five eyes is mostly about Intel from Pinegap, and the US own that even though it’s in Australia.

expatsy.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Shit.

expatsy.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well shit. Why not?

galaxydreams70.bsky.social•1 day ago

#Krasnov isn’t doing any favors for Ukraine. He’s in the pocket of Russia.

nikedomelon.bsky.social•1 day ago

Question;

Should the American people be concerned their government has the money and power to jail anyone who is not White, Male, of Christian?

Even the most ignorant of people should see this coming

#elbowsup
#slavaukraine

🇨🇦🇺🇦✌️

anne-de-kyiv.bsky.social•1 day ago

The minerals are unimportant to Trump. It's just his game. You can see how he thinks the world should be carved up from his threats about Greenland, Panama, Canada, i.e. entire North America. He may want the UK and a piece of EU. Putin can take Ukraine and further west. Xi takes Taiwan and all Asia.

anne-de-kyiv.bsky.social•1 day ago

He wants the Middle East too, starting with Gaza. The Arctic split between Trump and Putin. That leaves South America and Africa. All conjecture, of course, but I believe this is what they're dreaming about.

clausjepsen.bsky.social•1 day ago

..and should Europe stop sharing intel with the russian puppet in the Oval Office?

fluitebulletje2.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ukraine is the mouse, Trump the cat that wants to play with it's toy, the mouse. That's all folks!

equinas.bsky.social•1 day ago

Totally screwing Ukraine and saying we are going to take Greenland by force if we have to. We have become an authoritarian predator nation, there is no other way to say it. It is only going to get worse. I am selling everything and moving overseas when my daughter graduates college next year.

profaubrandebourg.bsky.social•1 day ago

people like you are most welcome in Europe! Even though we have our problems with the extreme right, it is still a great place.

jgharbon.bsky.social•1 day ago

we have to ask putin

vegasgello.bsky.social•1 day ago

josephduffieldreed.bsky.social•1 day ago

How long before other countries cut off intelligence-sharing with the US, knowing Trump will share everything with Russia?

cottagedweller.bsky.social•1 day ago

They should have already done that.

kitty3519.bsky.social•1 day ago

Not long. 5 eyes will be 4 eyes soon and why would any other country trust us at this point?

schwanderer.bsky.social•1 day ago

and when will NATO act to expel the US??

ca4ua.bsky.social•1 day ago

The United States president actively prefers that Putin wins.

mtnative.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is exactly what Russia wants. Stay strong Ukraine.

newman123.bsky.social•1 day ago

Definitely risking Ukrainian lives but aiding PUTIN’s forces
UNBELIEVABLE
Trump will at some point in the future 🙏 be having a state funeral in Moscow if this continues

mjmilano.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sadly waiting in Moscow for a care package of Diet Coke and Big Macs, like Philby waiting for his marmalade. He got a medal though!

newman123.bsky.social•1 day ago

🤣 I guess Trump would like a few medals 🥇 there is surely a medal of the bone spur

czarofangola.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe should shutdown all American embassies since they are spying for Russia.

robm2502.bsky.social•1 day ago

This administration doesn't care about the Ukrainian people. It also doesn't care how many people are going to die. Nor do they care how many lies they have to tell. If the Ukrainian people are destroyed, Trump will lose no sleep over it.

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