Federal agents have been filmed wearing masks while making arrests in public. When is it legal for police and the public to conceal their faces in an age of digital facial recognition and doxxing?
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Universities must protect their students. Otherwise the chilling impact worldwide will damage American competitive advantage in every field of study. https://youtu.be/cMXGV96hBu8
As evident by recent news borderline psychotic impressionable young adults are taking to impersonating these Edison tribe ice and raping, robbing, killing, savagery.... all in the name of keeping trump free of prison the antichrist repeatedly risen. I'll start by deleting the book of wisdom.
The best (worst) part about these videos is no badge is showing until the moment of arrest. Like, several of the guys don't pull them out until the last second, so a potential "good guy with a gun" would have no way to know these guys aren't potentially gang bangers or traffickers
There's been a lot of cogent claims that these abductions are illegal. If so, then what is there to not condone in shooting people about an illegal abduction? 🤷
Let’s not forget that the far right has always argued that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to protect us from excessive use of force by the government.
I’ve never been a fan, but maybe it’s time to reconsider.
I’ve been thinking about getting my concealed carry permit. Now is the time.
IMO, that's been more of a PR line from the NRA and gun producers to sell guns. For instance, notice how hard they've come down on people who make guns with mills, 3D printers, etc. It undercuts the sales.
Many states in the South and West are now “Constitutional Carry,” meaning that you don’t need a permit to be armed. This is going to happen, and sooner rather than later.
Police who are afraid to show their faces while following their illegal orders should not be cops. These are the ones who shoot out of fear. The ones who protect their own, instead of the citizens they serve.
They're embarrassed.
They know it's wrong.
But rather than refuse, they hide their faces.
Great story but NPR you missed the mark by not also including the non-supoorted and abrupt revocation of the students visa. That was very much a part of the shock of the situation leading to the masked arrest and it's being so random in effect.
I don't have a problem with the masks, but do have a problem with plain clothes officers snatching people off the streets without a warrant. They could have asked her to turn herself in,and she very likely would have done it.
We've SEEN enough !!
trump HAS DECLARED WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Founder's Principles!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Constitution!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Rule of Law!
TRUMP MUST BE STOPPED !!!
AMERICA !!! TAKE TO OUR STREETS !!!
Ok, fellow Americans.
If you see anything like this on our streets. MOB the goons. Use your bodies to stop these fascists from destroying our Rule of Law and Due Process for EVERYONE here, regardless of status.
Americans must STAND UP to the trump fascist GOONS!!!
They're "just following orders", so they shouldn't be afraid to show their faces, but they are, and they refuse to identify even after their "arrest" has been made.
They seek the power to act like thugs, yet they shy away from the responsibility and consequences that accompany their shitty behavior. If I were abducting someone from the streets, I’d wear a mask as well.
I am less concerned about masks and more concerned with ICE not wearing anything that identifies them as such, as if it's some undercover op to arrest a dangerous gang leader. If someone thinks they are kidnappers, they might get shot.
The World Cup will be in the US, Canada, and Mexico next year. Visiting teams should demand to have all their games in Canada and Mexico, boycotting the US venues, both in protest of how the US is dealing with their people now, and for fear that their players and visitors will be detained.
He's already defied a court order to turn planes around. He purposely trafficked people across country lines with zero due process and forced them into a known human rights violating labor prison. Now those people are gone and not a peep about bringing them back or holding this regime responsible.
I have long suspected that the absolutely slimiest and deranged denizens of the MAGA
cult would eventually dress up like “Ziptie Man” and proclaim themselves deputized. We’ll see masked and private security impersonating officers at GOP town halls to quell resistance. They’re afraid now.
"No person shall wear a mask or personal disguise, or otherwise conceal their identity with the intent of intimidating any person or group or for the purpose of evading or escaping discovery, recognition, or identification in the commission of violations of law or policy."
If they are employees of ICE, they should not fear to have their faces shown and should display identification to the person they are detaining. Otherwise it’s an abduction. Are these civilian militia? Very suspect. People need to videotape events and obtain license plate numbers. Doxx them!
What is fucked up is that it is of no coincidence that the masked kidnappers knew exactly where she would be and when/where to disappear her. Once the Israeli led anti-Palestine internet sleuths identify you, the US gov then tracks your phone in conjunction with Minders watching your every move.
They also made a point of grabbing her while she was using her phone so they could make sure it stayed unlocked. Now they have access to all her data and contacts.
When you're doing something you are morally opposed to but your boss—who is a toady to the most corrupt authoritarian the United States has ever known—tells you to do it.
💯 This! And what happenings in a Stand Your Ground state where the victim believes the masked individuals are LARPing as ICE, and they defend themselves with lethal force because they fear for their lives?
NPR, stop the sane-washing! There is NO reason in a free society for law enforcement to hide their identity. The only reason for the police to hide is when they know they’re acting illegally. We should not have a secret police. Period.
If what they are doing is morally righteous and legal they shouldn't cover their faces. Threats of potential violence are no excuse since this very administration supports hatred and intimidation as "free speech" and pardons violent criminals. If it is not right, don't do it!
If this had happened in a state with broad stand your ground laws, would she have been justified in shooting them if she were armed? They did not even identify themselves when they first surrounded her.
Which is why they're so bravely going after peaceful settings and targets unlikely to have weapons and training, like young women on a college campus, babies in daycare, old folks' homes on art day, nuns in bars with weapons banned, you know, real Rambo shit.
But Trump wants to make masks illegal for protests. So the Nazi Gestapo can hide their identity and get away with it, only because the people allow it. Rip their masks off! Don't you have a constitutional right to face your accusers?
It’s so scary for women for plain clothed cops with masks to do this. Just like Doge had imposters trying to break into city halls, they are gonna have imposters and women are going to get kidnapped.
I don't object to their mask wearing IF their federal logos and badge numbers are clearly discernible. Covid and other infectious diseases are still a thing.
It’s one thing to wear a mask during a pandemic, when you have to cover your face like they did along with the guards in El Salvador it shows that you know what you are is wrong and disgusting.
This is the absolutely wrong question. Police are not supposed to be unidentified in an open society. Bringing the public into it on equal grounds is dangerously missing the point.
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Why else wuld they wear a mask?
I’ve never been a fan, but maybe it’s time to reconsider.
I’ve been thinking about getting my concealed carry permit. Now is the time.
They should be more careful about what they ask for. Because they are going to get exactly what they've asked for.
And soon. Very soon.
The time to prepare is NOW.
1. Find out what you have to do to obtain a concealed carry permit (CCP) or license to carry (LTC) in your state.
2. Take a certified firearms safety course.
3. Submit your application for the CCP or LTC.
...
5. Practice firing and reloading at a shooting range on a regular basis.
6. Store your firearm and ammo safely.
They're embarrassed.
They know it's wrong.
But rather than refuse, they hide their faces.
Americans live in the Fourth Reich.
trump HAS DECLARED WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Founder's Principles!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Constitution!
trump has DECLARED WAR against Our Rule of Law!
TRUMP MUST BE STOPPED !!!
AMERICA !!! TAKE TO OUR STREETS !!!
If you see anything like this on our streets. MOB the goons. Use your bodies to stop these fascists from destroying our Rule of Law and Due Process for EVERYONE here, regardless of status.
Americans must STAND UP to the trump fascist GOONS!!!
"I was just following orders" didn't work at Nuremberg and would suggest it won't suffice here either .
https://www.change.org/p/free-mahmoud-khalil-stop-his-unjust-detention
https://www.change.org/p/free-rumeysa-ozturk-now
https://www.change.org/p/release-university-of-alabama-student-from-ice-detention-immediately
https://www.50-a.org
Oh, that's super easy to answer!
WHEN THERE'S A FASCIST REGIME RUNNING THE COUNTRY.
THAT makes it "legal".
Hope that helped.
What happens when they refuse to give up power...what are the options then?
cult would eventually dress up like “Ziptie Man” and proclaim themselves deputized. We’ll see masked and private security impersonating officers at GOP town halls to quell resistance. They’re afraid now.
If anyone can be disappeared by anonymous thugs then everyone can be disappeared by anonymous thugs.
Needs a public beat down in
The street
Make it a National pass time
We have the numbers
To Resist
"History sighs, repeats itself."
And that's it.
Next question: what's to stop human traffickers from snatching people off the street just like this while claiming to be ICE?
small L in front
l I C E
it's not ice I just look like i'm an ICE agent but i'm not
i'm just wearing a mask and pants and hoodie with a neck gaiter
and my vest says lICE not ICE
is that cool? free country yknow
There's zero reason they can't make an arrest while wearing uniforms and badges.
Report accurately, NPR!
FUCK RUBIO!!
If you are a Fed, and you feel the need to wear a mask to make an arrest, you are certainly NOT on the right side of history…