when i first saw the clip i was thinking he might have been trying to do a 'my heart goes out to you' motion but seeing it side by side? absolutely just nazi shit. fuck that guy.
So many people are fucking boot lickers that they are coming up with any excuse to defend musky. The same people would never do what he did in small crowd let alone on national television. Billionaires don't need white knights. Hold them accountable.
If Musk were an ordinary Schmoe with an ordinary bank account they would be outraged. I was an ally of the ADL, they have lost me with their transparent sycophancy.
This isn't sycophancy, the ADL has always been nothing but a front for Israeli lobbyists, and they're happy about Elon because they want those white Jewish emigrés coming in so they can turn their kids into killers.
A still image can be anything, there are many ways your hand cand end up like that in the middle of some other motion, that's why it's important to see him doing the whole thing. Like, there's no excuse.
Absolutely chilling. I saw another clip that cut to the crowd, and there were a few people in the audience returning the salute, and it's just... there's no words for how sick it's making me feel.
Three?!?! I'd heard two, which was already excessive (I mean, one is already too much when it comes to this type of action), but three??? How is anyone believing that this wasn't 100% intentional???
Yeah, people have been trying to post pics of people like Hillary or Kamala waving to people as proof they did it too. Except when viewed in motion, it's pretty clear. Add in the rest of the stuff he's been saying and doing, none of which they did, it's pretty obvious...
"y'know I got both of them, I got the Olympics and I got the world cup. And I said y'know it's too bad, one was in 2026 and the other was in 2028. And I said I won't be there I won't be your president, but then they rigged the election, and now we won. So I'm going to be your president..."
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I have many Jewish friends and have met many more and I can't remember one who did not refer to themselves as a Jew or take offense to being referred to as such. As you see above, I used Jewish as an adjective.
That said, I have no desire to offend and will refer to them the way they wish.
Elon. That was unfortunate. I would be happy if said “Whoops. That looks bad. Not intended. “. But allowing real ( hoping like crazy he isn’t a real neo nazi) nazis to think he is one of them is important to me.
I don't think Mark was calling Fosko's post rubbish, based on their other posts I think Fosko was saying the double standard is rubbish (ie agreeing with you and Fosko).
Unfortunately, now I think Trump's threats of legal action against newspapers/reporters will cause the media to tiptoe and avoid calling things out now. And this is exactly what they want - to stop any criticism and control all news & social media.
ADL playing the same covert narcissist political games they've been all along - it's just more obvious than ever because they made a glaring ideological mistake in hopes of political favor.
I've known they were full of shit for a long time. What's news to me is that they're also quite stupid.
It was never a matter of fact, but a simple game of words.
The narrative is a celebration of the discretion it offers to the self served man.
Justice, morality are tools to be used and to be discarded.
Meanwhile the man, the over thinker is left with no choice but a rejection of politeness.
It’s this rejection of the prudishness Yankees were known for.
But now we are disillusioned with the past on the behest of an oligarchs.
Satisfied to be seen as refined, no matter the means or the results.
America has been slowly falling from grace since Bush. This isn't a left vs. the right problem. This is what alowing billionaires to "lobbying" our politicians look like. The politicians have stocks it's a clear conflict of interests. We are looking at corruption at its purest across the board.
This is something that parties masquerading as progressives failed to do in more countries. When PO won elections in Poland for 1st time they were supposed to prosecute some politicians of previous coalition according to their promises. They didn't and those politicians gained power once again.
It is amazing how some can ignore history, common sense and human decency so easily. Musk is a product of racist South Africa. Trump is a clear racist. What does that say about all the gullible fools who support them?
Shortly before this he endorsed far right parties in the UK and the neo nazi party in Germany. He was also tweeting about overthrowing the UK government and installing a far right one.
He was high on power at the moment and knew he could seig heil multiple times and the world would do nothing.
Its probably because Elon is giving money to support the genocide, while we are fighting against it, although it still makes no sense. But hey, rich ppl can get away with anything! Drump being president is one example of that.
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Bullshit.
They weren’t all raised in apartheid South Africa, nor have they supported a German neo-Nazi party.
And they didn’t turn around and do it again.
And we know that Nazis also support Trump:
Yep those are some nice still images of people waving. Good job! Now I want you to think critically for a second and rather than playing dumb, acknowledge that all four of those took place in different contexts than putting a hand to their chest and then raising their arm stiffly exactly like a Heil
I mean it is logically sound. Banning tiktok for "national security" was a bipartisan issue. If Biden and the dems didn't defend it this never would have happened.
The ADL has been losing sight on what antisemitism is for a while. They claimed steam users could be antisemitic for using a Pepe meme and took religious symbols and said they were Nazi symbols. They must have been bought out for many years
I suspect they function as an extension of the government of the State of Israel, hence attacking pro-Palestinian protesters, and defending governments that are staunchly pro-Israel.
They're not about anti-Semitism anymore, they're about what serves Netanyahu personal interests at this point.
Absolutely. If you go against what they say, they claim you’re antisemitic. Look at how they reacted AOC calling them out for defending Elon’s Nazi salute. Even Germans recognized it as a Nazi salute and were appalled. Austrians are selling their Teslas. We’ve entered the upside down I fear
Oh the Pepe meme thing is real. It’s a dog whistle for the Proud Boys, originated in 4chan with the alt-right users. But otherwise yes, the ADL has def lost the plot
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Netanyahu himself controls the ADL definition of anti-Semitism and according to Bibi, Hitler didn't really hate Jews. Benjamin Netanyahu: "Palestinian Mufti gave Hitler idea to exterminate Jews". -2015
Adl is apparently full of cowards so sad but we knew this was coming. Some of us will have to stand up for those who fear to stand for themselves. Adl as a group is supposed to be about standing for others but apparently not when it comes to trump
Where in the fuck is AIPAC? Why is there no representative filing a law suit? Didn’t hear Lindsey? Where are all those cowards, the senators who sell themselves for their dollars.. where?
Nobody died yet? Is that the criteria for you to come out of the woodwork.. you insects!
because an increase of neo nazi sentiment in the US legitimizes their claim that the establishment of israel was necessary to protect the jewish people. ADL and AIPAC only care about zionism. they don’t care about the wellbeing and safety of jewish people in america
The one saving grace to all this, is that it's now very clear to all but a few sycophants that the ADL has lost the plot.
Their sole goal is zionism, so much so they'll excuse outright nazi salutes from a nazi sympathizing oligarch, if only to ensure Israel gets more money and bombs.
Still images you want to pass as nazi gestures. Elmo, however, really and clearly did the thing, there's the whole video of that. You have no such thing of any of the people shown in your picture. Because there aren't. Because it didn't happen. Do you understand?
I like how they're flooding here trying to claim we didn't see it. Or that isn't what he meant. Using going to Auschwitz, too. I heard nazis like to visit for their pride.
Own it and learn, don't hide and deny. If you don't stand with that, turn around and tell him that you don't.
You mean the time he went to Auschwitz as a lame attempt to apologize for spreading anti-semitic conspiracy theories? Kind of easily countered, that one.
Some doofus was insisting it wasn’t a Nazi salute because the ADL said it wasn’t, then started saying how great Starlink is. I guess I appreciate the transparency??
BiBi ignored all the warnings from western allies that Hamas was planning a big terrorist act. He was fine with Qatar funding them. He doesn’t seem too concerned about the safety of his people.
You need to use footage of actual nazis, not cosplayers. the salute is very different, its literally just raising the hand straight up.
Elons rizzin with the tism and there are many things to go after him for if you want to with much sturdier foundations than him being a socially awkward spaz
I wouldn’t expect a bunch of uneducated dumb fucks to use it CORRECTLY. The meaning of it remains the same. What’s your point? He did it wrong, so it doesn’t count? Even if he didn’t do it, I know what he is. Cosplay my ass.
Yeah if it was the real salute they would have compared it to Hitler its much more damaging but they trawled through the internet to find some dumb yank kids who did it wrong.
Oh, my guy, he’s much more than that. He’s bought his way into our government. Which is the problem, since he’s made billions through American government contracts. He’s certainly a hyped spaz, because he’s right where he wants to be.
Yeah but he was doing the same under the democrat governance as was zucc, bezos and gates. To assign political motivation to them is the peak of stupidity.
And yeah elon was called retarded by his teachers, he wouldnt last long in an actual nazi government
I never found the idea of Joker hating Nazis to be terribly surprising. If there's a political ideology the Joker believes in, it's probably anarchism. And as we all know, anarchists HATE nazi punks.
Oh, the Joker is in no way an anarchist. The core of anarchism is helping each other out, not wanton chaos. The Joker is more likely a hard-core libertarian or Ayn Rand fan, if anything. I don't think he can look beyond himself long enough to actually form a political opinion.
The joker is a chaotic evil, psychopathic anarchist in the purest sense. Anarchy means having no master.
Though, one could argue that chaos is his master.
He would never be classified by political terms like libertarian and he'd probably turn Ayn Rand into a Muppet for funzies.
It's simple start ww3 before we do. Convince all the world powers to turn on the US before we fully become nazi Germany. Use history to get a head of this story line before trump "takes care of the enemy with in" do this for the American people because the America's government has failed her people.
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here's the ADL painting a target on the back of Mohammed el-Kurd, just because he thinks he should be allowed to vote on the government that judges property rights in his home neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah:
I mean do Jewish people need protecting from nazis nowadays? I haven’t heard anything about it in a very long time, but for damn sure we have heard about jewish killing Palestinians right? Or should I call them zios? Whatever it is, it’s not right
Exactly, same thing they did with the natives, stealing their land, killing them for it, the Palestinians only problem was being born in that country, the so called “chosen” ones with their made up god with the aide of the most powerful country on earth, god I feel guilty by saying this but we suck
Turns out the 'never again' guys only meant 'never again TO US'.
I also feel like actual REAL antisemitism has gone up from this. I don't mean the 'criticize israel=antisemitism', I mean the 'maybe they really deserved it?' way.
Did people not read history? This 100% tracks. ADL is ram by a zio and zios were in cahoots with the mustache army in the 30s. This was not a surprise at all
It absolutely is an antisemitic slur used almost exclusively as a dog whistle to broadly mean jews by bigots trying to justify hate and violence because of medinat israel. You are wrong if you think it is an innocuous term.
Stating the truth is not antisemitism, but go ahead and keep diluting the word by defending a corporation who is defending a man that flat out did a nazi salute instead of actually condemning him.
The guy on the right has investments in Israel. I'm sure that has absolutely nothing to do with what the ADL said. Such a fine, upstanding organization would NEVER care about mere money.
Right. It’s the same thing they said about the insurrection which we all watched with our own eyes. Not funny. And anybody that says differently is full of crap.
Ya'll are really mixing up the message when you're making it about anti semitism. Israel in itself is a genocidal regime with various examples of fascism. Elon is a fascist. The salute is a fascist salute. You don't have to be an anti semite to be a fascist it is just a symptom of that brand.
It's a satirical take on today's media environment, where being pro-palestine is seen as being anti-semitic, yet Musk giving the nazi salute at a rally is just an over-exited, drug addled billionaire, and not actual anti-semitism.
In my mind, it doesn't matter what the dude intended. Everyone knows what it looks like, and the far right sees representation and validation.
The damage is done, he should take responsibility for it.
No, Washington Post was never left wing; the right just paints everything and everyone that doesn't enthusiastically support everything they do as "radical left". They've always been fairly centrist and their editorials have always hosted right wingers.
ADL considers criticism of Netanyahu’s fascist government “anti-semitism”. It stands to reason that they will love any other fascist as long as he doesn’t criticize Netanyahu.
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I can’t agree with this picture more! God forbid you call Israel a terrorist state but that asshole can seig heil and the media says “oh it was a mistake”
ADL put out a statement basically saying we're overreacting, Musk was just being enthusiastic. Right. This is a nazi salute and if he did this in Germany or Austria he'd be arrested. But, not here, in the U.S.A.
And the following truth will turn some heads but: Arabic IS a Semitic language. The idea that a Muslim could be anti-Semitic makes absolutely NO sense. Furthermore, Islam shares Prophets from Christianity AND Judaism. *mic drop*
all prophets comes from God ,moses, jesus son of mary and prophet mohamed
God sent one by one to Explain what people differed about، every prophet has his book from God
Torah came to start new era for jews, bible came to abrogates Torah, and Quran came to abrogates torah and bible
arab and muslim are not anti semitic and this semitic word start from German people first and most europe countries was killing jews till they move to palestine
then the war start by jews since they start killing palestinian to theive their land
Not sure how you explain Yemeni treatment of Jews when they lived there, or any other Jews living in Muslim lands. Or history textbooks portraying Jews with enormous noses and evil smiles, but ok.
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I am NOT "redefining" anything. Semitism is LANGUAGE based, not religion based. That is a FACT. Your condescension is unwarranted. And if you have an issue with those who speak Arabic, that's on you.
How? I'd LOVE for you to explain how. Furthermore, you have NOT listened to our song, have you? You're scraping at the bottom of the barrel for insults. Maybe if you'd listen to "Un Québec Pour Toi", or "Réveiller les Ancêtres" you'd actually understand that our band is about inclusion, 100%.
That you suggest people who correctly use the word antisemitism are wrong and disregarding or disrespecting Arabs is jumping into the pot with others who deny antisemitism. You're being divisive
Arabs have been committing religious and ethnic genocide across North Africa and the Middle East for at least a 100 years. In 1920 the non Muslim population in that area was around 25%. Now it’s less than 1%. The left ignoring this fact is a big part of the problem.
Wait, you don’t think places with oil have propaganda networks? Also you left out Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Syria. Hell, Turkey has two genocides both far more brutal and deadlier than Gaza.
That's not what it means in this context (in fact, antisemitic never really means "against Semitic speakers"). The ADL is trying to claim the former is anti-Jewish, and Musk isn't, which is obviously bollocks
No. You can't arbitrarily state that anti-Semitism doesn't include Arabic speakers. That train of thought you have is entirely misleading. The notion that it affects only those who are of the Jewish faith is a false notion. The term "Semitic" is rooted in LANGUAGE, not religion. That's 100% a FACT.
I'm not talking about "Semitic", I'm talking about the word "antisemitic". It has never meant "against Semitic speakers" and even if it did, that's not the sense it was used in. Other examples: "depressant" is not the opposite of "antidepressant", and "antimacassar" isn't the opposite of "Macassar"
War. Someone who'd want to eradicate others or contain them. That's who. It's not unconceivable. Consider... Colonialism for example. It was based on culture, on language and so much more. So much of our history is about being superior, unfortunately. I wish that never the case. But...
No. The direct equivalent of Islamophobia is Anti-Jewish Sentiment. Thus, when it comes to the term, "Semitism", it is uniquely language based, unlike the 2 terms I mentioned which are uniquely religion based. That's just a fact.
Hun, Islam shares prophets from Judaism because Muhammad, a warmongering pedophile fascist appropriated Jewish heritage and tradition, called it "Arab" and used it as an excuse to rape the Jewish homeland and much of the rest of the world.
1st, your statement is completely Islamophobic. 2nd, the age gap in THAT era was normal - including for YOUR ancestors. That's just a fact! 3rd, the idea that you're bashing a religion simply shows how ignorant you are of history & Islam.
No there was never a time when "consummating a marriage" with a 9 year old was normal. I'm also not religious. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. And there's nothing Islamophobic about accurate history. And you admit it's accurate or you wouldn't be trying to defend it.
You also forgot the warmongering part. He was a warmonger. A fascist. A theocrat. And his movement consumed SO MANY lives and erased so many people. Luckily there are reformed HEALTHY offshoots, such as the Druze faith. We just need to get rid of the fascist, theocratic, and colonial forms.
You make it seem that nations never warred. The Macedonians, Brits, French, Scots, Germans, Americans, Canadians, Italians, Japanese, Russians. I mean I could list every God damn nation that has EVER existed here. Your point is irrelevant and completely pointless!
The term “antisemitic” has never referred to Semitic languages. This is a talking point beloved of antisemites. Antisemitic has from day one referred to hatred of Jews, exclusively.
No. You are 100% incorrect. Semitism is about LANGUAGE, not religion. And that is a FACT. Muslims know this, which is why we are always perplexed as to your erroneous belief. The idea that you claim that it is based on religion is ignorant. Pure and simple.
This is absolute nonsense, no matter how many times you use capital letters. The origins of the term are basic historical fact. Or FACT, if you prefer.
It’s a damn shame, because I think we would be in basic agreement about a lot of things. But this “antisemitism is hatred of Semites” narrative is just used to distract from the situation at hand. And it helps the people who hate Jews *and* Muslims
He's intentionally misleading you. Or he's just ignorant.
Either way, fact check.
These are well known, undisputed facts, easily found from numerous sources online & in actual libraries. Arabs, regardless of how they feel about Jews don't dispute the meaning of the word antisemitism.
Are you ignorant of the fact that the word, "anti-Semitic" is actually German? The CORRECT term you're looking for is, "Anti-Jewish Sentiment". Semitism is rooted in LANGUAGE, not religion. Consider an unrelated term: "Asperger" is not used any longer, because it was the name of a Nazi.
There's too much wrong with that to even explain won't fit in one post.
Antisemitism isn't simply about hatred of the Jewish religion. Jews aren't even all religious in their beliefs. We're connected by literal genetics, culture, & in many cases, religion.
“Antisemitism” doesn’t refer to hatred of people who speak Semitic languages.
It’s an attempt to distract from and discredit the idea that it’s wrong to hate Jews (which is the only meaning of the word “antisemitism” in the English language).
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all prophets comes from God ,moses, jesus son of mary and prophet mohamed
God sent one by one to Explain what people differed about، every prophet has his book from God
Torah came to start new era for jews, bible came to abrogates Torah, and Quran came to abrogates torah and bible
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They're just lovers and dreamers, innit?
Like we all KNEW, but it's a whole other thing to see it.
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You can tell because they don’t endorse AfD.
Maybe even rework the 'MAGA' into a call/answer while doing it.
Like:
MA!, 'hand to heart'
GA!, 'extend the salute'
Over and over to raucous cheers.
Yep, just fine and dandy.
It might be a distraction play because Trump admitted "they rigged the election and I won".
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That said, I have no desire to offend and will refer to them the way they wish.
I think it depends a great deal on usage and intention.
But, thank you for your input. I will try, as always, to be considerate to others sensibilities.
I've known they were full of shit for a long time. What's news to me is that they're also quite stupid.
The narrative is a celebration of the discretion it offers to the self served man.
Justice, morality are tools to be used and to be discarded.
Meanwhile the man, the over thinker is left with no choice but a rejection of politeness.
We care too much about the way things are said, rather than what is being said.
But now we are disillusioned with the past on the behest of an oligarchs.
Satisfied to be seen as refined, no matter the means or the results.
He was high on power at the moment and knew he could seig heil multiple times and the world would do nothing.
#auspol
They weren’t all raised in apartheid South Africa, nor have they supported a German neo-Nazi party.
And they didn’t turn around and do it again.
And we know that Nazis also support Trump:
They're not about anti-Semitism anymore, they're about what serves Netanyahu personal interests at this point.
Nobody died yet? Is that the criteria for you to come out of the woodwork.. you insects!
Their sole goal is zionism, so much so they'll excuse outright nazi salutes from a nazi sympathizing oligarch, if only to ensure Israel gets more money and bombs.
Then add context like Musk supporting the far right in the US, Germany and the UK.
This is not difficult.
he's not gonna fuck you btw lol
Own it and learn, don't hide and deny. If you don't stand with that, turn around and tell him that you don't.
You mean like even after ranking nazis took pride and went back to those places?
You know why Pride Marches through the streets?
They used to parade them naked and shout their "sins and shame"
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Elons rizzin with the tism and there are many things to go after him for if you want to with much sturdier foundations than him being a socially awkward spaz
https://youtu.be/H5FA6u6JQ2Y?si=5oHiTCFpaPCdj4rn
It wasnt a salute lady, hes just a hyped up spaz
And yeah elon was called retarded by his teachers, he wouldnt last long in an actual nazi government
so was just a spazzy wave
Though, one could argue that chaos is his master.
He would never be classified by political terms like libertarian and he'd probably turn Ayn Rand into a Muppet for funzies.
I’ve decided to be different this time around…no arguing with fools and no trying to talk logic to the illogical.
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https://www.adl.org/resources/article/mohammed-el-kurd
No.
They're teaming up on a side mission to kill Palestinians.
Once that's over, they'll be back on the pointy end of the stick :(
Turns out the 'never again' guys only meant 'never again TO US'.
I also feel like actual REAL antisemitism has gone up from this. I don't mean the 'criticize israel=antisemitism', I mean the 'maybe they really deserved it?' way.
Seen too many of that cropping up
Shut up
That’s truly an alternative take on world history as well as political science!
It has not to do with him being on the spectrum
The damage is done, he should take responsibility for it.
The ADL is run by 100% certified Quislings.
The only hope now, is that they meet the same fate for the same foolishness.
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Would give folks something to go on, I think.
God sent one by one to Explain what people differed about، every prophet has his book from God
Torah came to start new era for jews, bible came to abrogates Torah, and Quran came to abrogates torah and bible
Can you respect that?
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Why you still focus on one place and let’s open the range of history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Europe
Anti-Jewish
Jewish hate
Now, any problem?
If you genuinely want to be consistent then stop disregarding antisemitism which is hatred of Jews.
That you suggest people who correctly use the word antisemitism are wrong and disregarding or disrespecting Arabs is jumping into the pot with others who deny antisemitism. You're being divisive
Go learn things. I handed you much of it
You also neglected to respond to the alternatives i provided to you but i think we know where you stand.
Here's some history that you clearly missed in school
Either way, fact check.
These are well known, undisputed facts, easily found from numerous sources online & in actual libraries. Arabs, regardless of how they feel about Jews don't dispute the meaning of the word antisemitism.
Antisemitism isn't simply about hatred of the Jewish religion. Jews aren't even all religious in their beliefs. We're connected by literal genetics, culture, & in many cases, religion.
That is known (for over 100 years) as antisemitism
You can continue to be stubborn about it. It does not change the facts
Or, you can read what i provided & fact check it to learn things
Or you can be you
“Antisemitism” doesn’t refer to hatred of people who speak Semitic languages.
It’s an attempt to distract from and discredit the idea that it’s wrong to hate Jews (which is the only meaning of the word “antisemitism” in the English language).
God sent one by one to Explain what people differed about، every prophet has his book from God
Torah came to start new era for jews, bible came to abrogates Torah, and Quran came to abrogates torah and bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
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