Please stop attributing Musk's behavior to "drugs." People who use, struggle with, and rely on drugs have enough problems right now -- they are also humans. - ThreadSky

jesspish.bsky.social • 5 hours ago

Please stop attributing Musk's behavior to "drugs." People who use, struggle with, and rely on drugs have enough problems right now -- they are also humans.

Reposted from Riley MacLeod

OK honest question what is the root of this? Is this just how you think on drugs?

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carriweatherwax.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Drug use and drug abuse are two vastly different things. I think most people are aware of that

isilven.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I mean, some of us are hedging on "drugs" because we know what the medical symptoms of using those drugs ARE, and some of his actions and behaviors (baseline ones, not political ones) are giving evidence of either extreme use of disassociatives, or he's got brain damage.

isilven.bsky.social•4 hours ago

And before people do the Bluesky thing and get immediately shirty with me because they don't know how to interact on internet spaces normally anymore: I am a recovering opiate addict/survivor of the Sackler Family for over 12 years now and I -have- a TBI. Coming from a place of EXTREME understanding

jesspish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I think a nuanced take that is, this is partially influenced by xyz, is of course sensible. I'm sorry you went through that.

isilven.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I appreciate it but I'm not saying it to look for sympathy. People just have a tendency to not read my bio and look at my picture and go "ah yes, a Privileged White Woman who clearly does not know what she speaks of!" lol.

jesspish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Fair! People judge so harshly on so little

klannert.bsky.social•4 hours ago

An argument could be made that possessing an inconceivably large amount of money and power is going to impact one’s ability to reason more than anything else. Of course, maybe only a certain kind of asshole accumulates that much power and money in the first place.

jesspish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

That's my running theory...at least you can do a lot more damage with that much money.

klannert.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Not to mention avoiding consequences. If you can fuck around without ever finding out, how will you know when you’re wrong?

radlegaltakes.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Never attribute to drugs what can more appropriately be attributed to psychopathy and the Dunning-Kruger effect.

jesspish.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Fair. As per my tween: Most people aren't psychopaths; they think they are doing something good. But also some of this is just too much for me to attribute to good intentions.

radlegaltakes.bsky.social•2 hours ago

What’s the percentage of CEO’s?

jesspish.bsky.social•2 hours ago

HMMM

jesspish.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I suppose it's because some don't want to think that people as people do pretty bad things and have bad beliefs without "drugs" or "mental illness", but they definitely do! And most people who use "drugs" or have "mental illness" are not Elon Musk.

jesspish.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Ketamine is a good treatment for a lot of people. It's helped people I know. I don't care if Musk uses Ketamine. (Also, I don't think any of this is explained by Ketamine.)

blowen.bsky.social•4 hours ago

NONE of this is explained by Ketamine. The people claiming this over and over have no understanding of how it affects brain chemistry, even in horse tranquilizer doses. Slandering it like its heroine is creating a stigma against its use - which has proven very helpful in PTSD, etc.

writerbeverly.bsky.social•4 hours ago

There's a difference, though it's sometimes hard to tell, between use and abuse.

If someone is zonked out on - whatever, a substantial percentage of the time, it's a problem, regardless of what the substance is.

He can be an asshat and autistic AND a drug abuser.

blowen.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Yes, true. But his K abuse is not the reason behind his Nazism. K puts the user into a temporary dissociative state - not a permanent fascist cloud of hate.

ellyzoe.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Oh for sure but I’d imagine it could definitely affect his competence/understanding of things/paranoia/etc? And it’s scary as hell to have big decisions made by someone who gets up on stage with sunglasses and can barely get a coherent sentence out, then waves around a chainsaw?

ellyzoe.bsky.social•4 hours ago

That v much looked like “high as fuck” behavior—no idea what he’s on and would be zero percent surprised to find it isn’t just ketamine—and someone who can’t control his drug use enough not to show up on a stage clearly blitzed is not someone who should be in charge, as w Hegseth & booze.

ejemplo2.bsky.social•3 hours ago

It's disheartening to see how people on the "left" are so ready to pin Musk's behavior on ketamine/ make jokes about people using ketamine/ make OD jokes right now. It contributes to the demonization of what is an important part of many ppl's
healing

jesspish.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Agree. IDK what Musk does in his private life (other than have children) but I feel okay saying what he is doing is very very bad!

marontheweb.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Agree--it also implies that, but for the drugs, Musk would be a chill non-racist capable of serving in the public interest. He's a terrible person, whether he's sober or not.

chhinnamasta.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Drugs aren’t bad. A lot of people enjoy a bit of ket. I don’t see any of them turning into this guy

jesspish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Agree

rwberg.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Musk is a problem solver. What's so difficult to understand?
A lot of Musk haters seem to be mentally challenged.
A lack of respect for what he is doing shows you the poor mentality of those who are opposed to rooting out waste and fraud. Shame on you.

agender-agenda.bsky.social•3 hours ago

he just asked like 800,000 government employees to send plaintext emails to one singular HR email address to track their productivity for last week. How does that solve a problem?

agender-agenda.bsky.social•3 hours ago

he's stealing tax $. he's not giving us the $ back, he is breaking contracts we already paid for but not giving us refunds, he is illegally firing people, not reviewing who he is firing before he fires them, and trump said our taxes are going to go up, even though they're ending a ton of programs

jesspish.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Yeah, I agree Musk is doing bad things under no legal authority. This is feel fine saying.

agender-agenda.bsky.social•2 hours ago

yeah and I gotta say he's been a shitbag since waaaaay before he started doing ket 😂 He's definitely more paranoid lately, and I do think that could be attributed to his addiction, but him doing this illegal crap is cuz of his crappy personality, not drugs

jesspish.bsky.social•2 hours ago

I dont know quite enough to judge his interior life, but I feel fine saying his words and actions in public are bad! Not like a top secret operation here.

agender-agenda.bsky.social•2 hours ago

if you're interested: he's a classic "deadbeat dad" (literally has 13 kids, and refuses to communicate with the mothers), he's been saying racist things online for over a decade, and has created a social media platform for nazis to use. My personal opinion is that he's an absolute pile of shit

peterjwagner3.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Metaphorically: egomania is one hell of a drug…

jesspish.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I am more sympathetic to attributing his actions to that than "drugs."

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