There are several reasons why America can no longer be considered an ally of the West. One of them is that… The call is now very definitely coming from within the house. - ThreadSky

chadbourn.bsky.social • 11 days ago

There are several reasons why America can no longer be considered an ally of the West. One of them is that…

The call is now very definitely coming from within the house.

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mindfulheretic.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is the premise of a dystopian HELL, and we are living it.

sweetaudrey.bsky.social•11 days ago

Yep, we’re the baddies now. It fucking sucks.

chadbourn.bsky.social•11 days ago

The big question for the Starmer government now is, do they choose to be Trump’s lapdog and get involved in American adventures in the Pacific Rim, which Trump wants, or do they refocus on Europe.

fouthtimelucky.bsky.social•11 days ago

We have allies in the region and I don’t mean the U.S.

triassic.bsky.social•10 days ago

So that’s why we’re selling the Chaos islands! A war with China isn’t something we want to be involved with.

stefansiebert.bsky.social•11 days ago

It is not a relevant question for them as they answer to the same paymasters.

lazytitan258.bsky.social•11 days ago

Why focus all the blame on Starmer Mark? Seriously!🙄🤦

chadbourn.bsky.social•11 days ago

Where’s the blame? I mentioned a choice.

drjamesjteeth.bsky.social•11 days ago

Starmer will try to play the middle and fail. Anything can happen before the next election, but I would wager you are looking at PM Farage.

neil-lewis.bsky.social•11 days ago

I remember all those Brit Brexiters claiming that the UK has NATO so that it doesn't need the EU for European security.

d-moore.bsky.social•11 days ago

We're in real trouble. Trump will say he offered to stop the 'war' *invasion* & Zelenskyy refused .
Supporting Ukraine (as we really have to) will tip Europe into recession.. making it a playground for the pro-Russian far-right to rise.

d-moore.bsky.social•11 days ago

If Ukraine falls, what's stopping Musk/Putin going for the UK?
Separated from the herd & sitting on a tinderbox of civil unrest, easily stirred by their minions. RW press bent over for a dictatorship.

The only question is wether they go for us before or after Putin rolls into the baltic states.

chadbourn.bsky.social•11 days ago

Depends how clever the leaders are. A war economy can be an economic driver. And with good communication the enemy without can be unifying.

d-moore.bsky.social•11 days ago

True, good communication is vital. Something lacking amongst the people fighting for our best interests.

thoughtbear.bsky.social•10 days ago

1984.

alannairn9.bsky.social•11 days ago

Please

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•11 days ago

They are going to meet in MUNICH FFS!

chumleyprelude.bsky.social•11 days ago

We can only hope he does the right thing - Fuck Trump, focus on Europe.
Probably thinks he can back both, but we don't have the resources; it's morally wrong; & you can't rely on Trump to stick to anything.
If we back Trump & let down Europe, when Putin moves again (he will) Trump will not back us.

donnarejoin.bsky.social•11 days ago

I have a horrible feeling Starmer will opt for Trump, especially after today's refugee betrayal.

stutheblue.bsky.social•11 days ago

Of course he will. We have a special relationship with the USA dont you know?🤮

katzrule.bsky.social•10 days ago

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

roxane.bsky.social•11 days ago

IKR? Like Canada. I feel so safe now.

blue-eyedsamurai01.bsky.social•10 days ago

Focus was never off Europe.

Why would the UK care about Trump's rim?

tfred.bsky.social•11 days ago

UK doesn’t have the wherewithal to even get into first gear.

stephenswan.bsky.social•11 days ago

It should be the latter, we can’t afford (societally, economically or politically) the former!

sarahyb.bsky.social•11 days ago

He should focus on Europe. Trump
has just 4 years & is hellbent on causing chaos. We need to stick with the grown ups & get on with our lives as if he doesn’t exist. We must support #Ukraine & not allow Trump to gift it to #Putin

ghostrydr1172.bsky.social•11 days ago

Very optimistic of you that we have to suffer Trump "only 4 more years" when his obvious intent is to upend everything and set himself up as King/Emperor/Dictator For Life.

sarahyb.bsky.social•11 days ago

I had to say that! I can’t stomach the thought that he’d go on any further. 4 years, 4 years, 4 years m. Endless, but single figures.

persiflage.bsky.social•11 days ago

I keep referring to him as a wannabe-God-Emperor.

ghostrydr1172.bsky.social•11 days ago

That's what he is to his MAGAT rubes. Hopefully, eventually, as they see everything turn to crap and their grocery bills spike up to 500%, they'll realize he's only the Douchebag Nazi cryptobros rubber stamp.

persiflage.bsky.social•11 days ago

Yes, but how many people are going to suffer in the interim?

sixesalltheway.bsky.social•11 days ago

Starmer refused to sign the AI Action Summit declaration in Paris - a pretty uncontroversial set of statements by the standards of most people, that just happened to b in-step with the new Trump govt. I think we already have the answer to that question.

jumpers4goalposts1.bsky.social•11 days ago

It’s a no brainer, fuck useless orange prick

porthiadays.bsky.social•11 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3lhz7x32xtk2m

detritus.bsky.social•10 days ago

It’s not unprecedented.

detritus.bsky.social•10 days ago

I’m not saying it’s a bad thing but learn some history before saying something is unprecedented.

detritus.bsky.social•10 days ago

Also seem to remember some countries making Ukraine sign an agreement before after giving “guarantees”. I realise this is different but why would Zelenskyy trust anyone now?

phrynedee.bsky.social•10 days ago

will they do the same for the Palestinians?

carlabela1.bsky.social•10 days ago

So good to read!

norcalgids.bsky.social•11 days ago

Why make a decision when the fence slots so beautifully up his arse?

calenhad-social.bsky.social•11 days ago

I think you know the answer to that already.

joseph-yossarian.bsky.social•11 days ago

Starmer will pathetically do nothing

sarahviktoria.bsky.social•11 days ago

Somebody had better start to manage the situation or the situation will manage us.

messmonstergigi.bsky.social•11 days ago

I hope Starmer chooses the right path, Europe, don’t forget the Americans had no intention of getting involved WWII, only the bombing of Pearly Harbour changed that. How much did that special relationship cost us after the war? Didn’t we only pay off the bill to US in recent years? Some friend.

antikrish.bsky.social•11 days ago

It's also what they might drag us into, as allies

messmonstergigi.bsky.social•11 days ago

Exactly! I’m tired of being the US’s lapdog.

messmonstergigi.bsky.social•11 days ago

*Pearl

zeseadog1966.bsky.social•11 days ago

Questioning is big even in the #USA. Why, being stronger, to adopt your enemy 's proposals?

https://bsky.app/profile/admiralstav.bsky.social/post/3lhyqxwf3uk2m

t-rexit.bsky.social•11 days ago

How high, Reichsleiter Trump?

adamcain.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is the one that gets me.

The situation is unavoidably awful, but diverting British forces to aid Trump's agenda in the Pacific at precisely the point he is saying that he won't lift a finger to help us in Europe would be to actively make it worse.

garycarter.bsky.social•11 days ago

British forces could play a part in defence of Europe, the Far East is a long way away and British forces would make little difference

adamcain.bsky.social•11 days ago

Indeed.

Yet this afternoon on Radio 4 I heard Penny Mordant - supposedly one of the Tory grown-ups - repeating the cliches about global Britain and our interests in the Pacific Rim.

It's a new world, Trump was explicit about this stuff at least 12 months back, but these people are still in denial.

garycarter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Someone should tell “Admiral” Mourdant what happened when Britain sent two large warships to the Far-east in 1941.

They were both sunk PDQ.

cofraeadai.bsky.social•11 days ago

Haven’t heard anyone mention the nuclear deterrent. I thought a lot of British weapons are in storage in the US (I might be wrong) which may have to change now.

garycarter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Trident missiles have to be serviced in the USA

adamcain.bsky.social•11 days ago

I don't believe that is true as such - I believe they are all stored in Scotland, but there are a lot of issues about whether the deterrent can be maintained without US input.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/

chadbourn.bsky.social•11 days ago

Completely.

angiepedley.bsky.social•11 days ago

NO, please no. We supported these people wrongly in Vietnam. It feels like a replay & a massive betrayal. Ukrainians were welcomed all across the UK. We know them, we've helped them settle here. There is huge support for Ukraine in the UK.

clearlight.bsky.social•11 days ago

Starmer never saw a billionaires boot he didn’t want to lick or a dissident he didn’t want to crush

referencehs.bsky.social•11 days ago

It's even worse than that: America must be considered an enemy of the West. Let me be clear: the SANE part of America are still our friends and we feel for them. I hope we can join forces somehow. The US and Russia seem to be one block now. What is the position of China in all this?

lomelindi12.bsky.social•10 days ago

It isn’t an ally

andyquebec.bsky.social•11 days ago

juliaann.bsky.social•10 days ago

I fear you are right.

suziequark10.bsky.social•11 days ago

Putin now controls most aspects of our Federal Government, including his tool Musk who stole/hacked the election for trump/Putin.
Most of all, he controls our National Security
via Tulsi Gabbard🔥🔥🔥
Thank God I live in CA with a very strong Governor-we may secede from the "Russian States of America".

daveacoley.bsky.social•11 days ago

Ru has won the lukewarm war.
From the Tories to brexit and now Trump we have been outsmarted by a country that's inferior in every way.

chadbourn.bsky.social•11 days ago

Very well put.

cscotty00.bsky.social•11 days ago

Ally? There aren't any British military bases in the US.

If there is only one bright side of this admin it will be waking up Europeans on a united defence among actual allies.

carlabela1.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is very worrying indeed!

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