the world does not need kings the world does not need emperors the world does not need dictators the world does not need oligarchs or even millionaires or billionaires. the world would be just fine without any of these ... what the world does need is more people that practice the golden rule
There is surely a big difference between when Christian zealots, fanatics run a society, and when Christians with godly principles manage the affairs of a society.
It's OK to say your mind bro...."a hearty fuck off", isn't really a bad idea ....considering how messed up the world is right now...it means you are even nice to only share a simple fuck off.🤣🤣🤣🤣
As has been pointed out elsewhere, this is not correct...because people in the "Dark Ages" would have been falling over themselves to avail themselves of modern disease prevention that we take for granted now.
So right Alan, I want to follow you if I can figure out how. I thought when I was younger that we would always have progress. But that seems to be just 4 the rich. We got to change this. We all recognize everything wrong in the U S A, time to Change It.
You Europeans never learn do you while you were under the thumb & yoke of religion & despots posing as kings. The rest of the world was still in the light of enlightenment & learning & living their lives. An enlightened wit said "All wise men are of the same religion but they keep it to themselves
I’m baffled by this statement. The Dark Ages usually refers to the period of European history between the decline of the Roman Empire in the West, and the Middle Ages (ie C5th - C10th CE), from which we have limited historical records. That’s why it was named the Dark Ages. Research before posting!
Cannot wait for a reenactment of the inquisition.. unfortunately some of us like minded people will be the victims..
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Neither did the Spaniards, but that changed nothing. Maybe, just maybe history won't be repeated, but I'm not holding my breath. 41% of the population voted for the Leopard party, they can wonder why the leopard is eating their face.
But they never had the Enlightenment Movement either which freed Christian societies from the oppressive control of the Church and also ushered in the Scientific Revolution
From the Nok civilizations of West Africa to the Buganda in the East, from the Great Kongo people of central Africa to the Mutapa Empire in the South, Africa is home to the world's earliest form of mathematical thinking and the first known use of measuring and calculation.
Wishing CEOs a very happy open season. After all, they’ve been hunting workers, unions, and small businesses for decades—it’s only fair the tables turn.
The Inquisitions happened during the modern period. The term dark ages refers to a lack of sources in the early medieval period from about 500-900 CE. I hope this helps.
Yes, in Britain for sure. We often overlook the fact that science and arts flourished in parts of the Middle East and in China in those times - possibly elsewhere as well.
Actually, the Dark Age is what came before that (5-10 Centuries), an era where superstition rose, and Leeches were used as main remedy for all ailments. Then came the Crusades (10 C+) and the rule of the Church, then the Inquisition, Maleus Maleficarum, persecution of all ethnics and mass murder.
So much valuable knowledge was lost to superstition and racism. Mankind should have an alien invasion or something like Reign of Fire soon, to humble them and let them know they're going down the wrong path.
Leeches were actually used for a long time after that, up to the 19th century in fact. I once filmed a leech on someone's arm for a documentary and it went from the size of a matchstick to the size of a little finger just from the blood it ingested
They're actually still used in some procedures.
Well, in fact they’re useful after some types of plastic surgery apparently, where the blood vessels carrying blood away from the operation site haven’t formed yet. The leeches are used to reduce swelling by removing excess blood…….
…… It’s hard on the leeches because they’re starved so they will feed but they can’t be used again because of infection risks so the poor little guys get one meal and then get dumped in the incinerator!
I think there was a whole buy your way to heaven scheme being run on the rich at the time also, along with payment for sin forgiveness. Such a racket!!
History has a bad habit of repeating itself. Despite our attempts at stating: “It must never happen again!” Sadly, those with the power and influence to prevent are bought and paid for by those with a different agenda.
I thought it was because of my skin color. I still celebrate dark ages. Black is beautiful. I wish I was black. I hate being white, but I don’t want to be as black as Clarence and PU Diddy, those guys are fucking black man that’s too black brown is beautiful
The Inquisition was a monstrous event. But at least it led to a Protestant Reformation. Religious reformers have sought to undo some of the more fundamentalist readings of their texts (unlike, say, The Quran, which has never seen a reformation of many of its most repulsive and plagiarized passages).
Much blood has been spilled — no doubt. Even so, the doctrine contains some unimpeachable tenets that are worth keeping. Pity the early Church didn’t practice what it preached.
Good except that rich people and Christian zealots didn't run the world in the "Dark Ages" - Early European monarchs were more like warlords, controlling relatively small bits of land and could be dethroned fairly easily. The Catholic Church barely existed and most of Europe was pagan.
IF the original authors of biblical texts wrote bawdy & tasteless jokes into those texts, even making fun or light of their own writings, doesn't that indicate that the authors themselves did not believe in what they wrote?
It's called the dark ages because of a lack of archeological artifacts and therefore a lack of information regarding the era, not because of religion and wealth disparity.
Misinformation of all kinds must be called out, regardless of the purpose it serves. Facts matter
The point is that the dominance of the church and it’s clergy repressed intellectual progress in favor of religious piety just as we are seeing here in the US now and the years leading up
That’s not right. It was the dark ages because of the fall of centralized government which was unable to counter invasion from other groups like Vikings and other disruptions in trade. There was a decline in institutions which caused a decline in literacy & rise of Christianity.
Lack of records because of the book and scroll burnings that Constantine I ordered when he made Christianity the official language of the Roman Empire. Set technological progress and science back by centuries.
Emporer Constantine was in power from 306-337 CE, decades before the era described as the 'dark ages' (around 410-900 CE). The sources from this era are scarce because of the decline of the Roman empire and the censequent loss of social structure. Constantine is not really known for burning scrolls.
I agree with your idea but I don't agree with your example, because the evidence you're putting forth isn't all that convincing. They made Christian the "language" of the Roman Empire?
A lot of tech was lost after the fall of the Roman Empire. The majority of buildings & objects used in everyday life were made of wood, which rots, instead of stone, metal and pottery. General knowledge wasn't written & taught until recently. Artifacts matter, & there are few from the dark ages
The only Christian theocracy at this time was the Christian East - Byzantium. They had no loss of learning because they still knew the Greek language. Western Europe lost Greek - and Greek learning - with the Fall of Rome. Learning in the West was kept alive by monks in monasteries.
Exactly. Was going to say that the nexus of Asia, Africa, and Europe held all the "light" during those times. I sure wish there was a place we could have a crazy union of cultures and knowledges nowadays. I guess it used to be America.
Almost the best part of going to see Siena at the Met is all the signage on the walls next to the dazzling art: "And then they all died in the plague."
The "Dark Ages" are generally attributed to the decline and fall of the Western Roman Empire, which led to widespread political instability, barbarian invasions, and a significant loss of knowledge and literacy across Europe.
History. Ignore it. What has the past got to do with you? Oh, you mean the road leading to my driveway is somehow significant? And the roads before that, and before /that/...Given the internet age there is no excuse for total ignorance other than choice.
Yes. That's why my 10th Great Grandfather Thomas Rogers goes England. Queen Bloody Mary burned John Rogers at the stake for printing the first English translation Bible - Mathews Bible.
I'm begging you, please crack open a history book. There were no "Dark Ages" The Inquisition is from the late 15th century and the "rich" is aristocracy.
Though not wanting to credit this to yourself (Alan Smithee) is completely accurate.
There is nothing like changing a mind than the threat of a burning at the stake. Bruno didn't change his mind and they burned him, Galileo decanted but said 'still it moves' and wrote a better book. While the church said the sky was a painted ceiling? Blind faith is the worst oppression.
Disturbs me when people post stuff blatantly inaccurate to spread mindless hatred towards a group of people, claim to be "Good vibes only" most the time, and are ignorant to what they're even saying.
What's worse? People mindlessly fall for it and support it 100%. Stop spreading hatred.
We don’t call it the Dark Ages any more, because religious rule wasn’t dark. That a prejudice created by the anti-religious, Enlightenment period that followed, which gave rise to the most violent historical traditions of all, namely atheist, anti religious, movements such and fascism and Communism.
Religion definitely causes a lot of harm. Praying for shit doesn’t work. Never has, never will. It’s fear mongering for profit off of the less educated
To this very day there are defenders of the evil past, they say
" it won't be all that bad!" Yes it will, what underlies the far right is slavery, control of the rest of us and jail if we disagree.
Look we gotta stop spreading this misleading image. This is based on a false narrative. The middle ages where called “dark ages” by scholars who wanted to seperate the perfect time of antiquity to make their reinnesance seem like a rebirth of civilization. -
The middle ages were full of discoveries and innovations, and as hard of a pill as it is to swallow the church WAS a forerunner in this case on science and learning. That isn’t to say that science wouldn’t eventually outgrow the teachings of the church or that they became opposed-
Nor is it a justification for witch trials or the inquisitors or crusades. But the middle ages cover about 1000 years of history spanning all of Europe, parts of Africa and Asia.
Don’t be like Maga or fascists and rewrite history. We need to perserve it and learn from it
Imagine if Covid was done "dark ages style". We could have solved it all by just having people wearing cloth and covering their head with ashes while whipping themselves seeking God's forgiveness ...
... because masks and vaccines are the mark of the beast, or something
It would make the ultra wealthy happy as well. They wouldn't need to subsidise costs of vaccines to roll it out to a large population during a public health crisis
That never ended. Appropriating the land and growing one's domain and refusing the rule of law or writing your own laws was how states were formed. Same applied in the American colonies actually.
This unite the right wing terrorist, anti science, anti education, anti truth and fact, anti expertise, anti intellectual, anti reality, anti Christian, anti equality, anti scientific method, post republican age will definitely be called the Dump Ages.
The "Christian zealots" of the dark ages were not even a teeny bit Christian. They were Roman Catholics under Satan's leadership as they are to this day.
Rich people and Christians are the two most opposite groups. The Bible is clear: ‘You cannot serve two masters… You cannot serve both God and money’ (Matthew 6:24). Choose wisely whom you serve.
Why does everyone always forget that the rich have always ruled and suppressed the poor?? With the exception of less than a dozen revolutions of course. And then the poor just elected different rich people that suppressed them in more subtle ways that wouldn't get them killed.
And why do they never mention that this past century or so is exceptional in the ability to democratically control them? But they get suckered by culture wars and memes to remain divided and fail to exercise the undoubted power to make change that they possess.
Because after studying centuries of empires and rulers, they have come up with the formula of pacification: Divide and distract. Find what some people hate then distract by jangling the keys while they slowly take more and more of our freedoms. Most everyone wants to be part of a group so they...
side with whichever faction closely resembles their values and are taught to only focus on hating those that think differently.
This killing of the CEO has literally been the only thing in a while, where both sides came together in agreement then came the drones (jangling keys) and the conversation
Sure but let’s not get to conspiratorial or historicist, the means to change are readily available and it’s up to people to use them and not merely point to “they”. “They” act according to their interests and conditions, the “we” needs to do the same? How? By stop looking at others and looking to
This continued past the Middle Ages. It continued through the Renaissance, & closer to home, there's that small matter of Salem. Let's not say it was a thing that happened elsewhere a long time ago.
Theocracy and fascism aren't things we need to fear sliding back into, they're already happening.
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“When Religion ruled the World, they called it the Dark Ages”
Look around you, and see for yourself.
True Christians love to serve with their heart..addition positive impact to the society....while fanatics fake everything, but gat no Christian life.
https://historyforatheists.com/2024/09/the-great-myths-15-what-about-the-dark-ages/
It’s practically a documentary.
Them: HERESY!
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https://time.com/5911003/middle-ages-myths/
Unless that doesn't really work.
#TheDumbAges
When evil, corrupt, narcissists men, ruined the World!
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Nonetheless, they took artifacts from Buddhism and other Eastern religions and hid them deep in caves to preserve them from the Huns and Visigoths.
They're actually still used in some procedures.
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Misinformation of all kinds must be called out, regardless of the purpose it serves. Facts matter
https://historyforatheists.com/2020/03/the-great-myths-8-the-loss-of-ancient-learning/
Not saying he was a good guy by a long shot, but there are a lot of misconceptions about what he did and didn't do.
Constantine didn't invent the Chi Rho symbol. It wasn't for Jesus, and it didn't mean "Christ" until that meaning was popularized.
Chi Rho was used for Chronos, Helios, and Sol Invictus, and used in writings for "useful or good" as an abbreviation for mssgs.
Below:
3rd century BC coin.
He honored Sol as he declared it to be a day of rest.
There's good evidence as well that he identified Jesus as an incarnation of Helios and worshipped "Christos Helios".
https://diglib.library.vanderbilt.edu/act-imagelink.pl?RC=49946
Merry Solmas👋
- Pro Israel, pro no taxes, pro no regulations etc, pro no abortion etc
I dont see that happening.
After all the shit he has done for 50 years - Americans knew and still voted for him!
So they chose the road of Fascism after more voters chose taking the many On Ramps to Vote for Trump - than - Off Ramps!
Enjoy your fascism!
Though not wanting to credit this to yourself (Alan Smithee) is completely accurate.
But the Renaissance soon followed. 🌞
Learn some history eg https://historyforatheists.com/2024/09/the-great-myths-15-what-about-the-dark-ages/
…so…
You can bring a fundamentalist to The US Constitution but you can’t make them read.
What's worse? People mindlessly fall for it and support it 100%. Stop spreading hatred.
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" it won't be all that bad!" Yes it will, what underlies the far right is slavery, control of the rest of us and jail if we disagree.
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/musk-buys-presidency/
The "Dark Ages" thing never really dies😮💨
A dark age, where criminals are ruling in conjunction with religious zealots -and that all for the benefit fo a few Oligarchs.
It remains to be seen what the US will look after that. If it ever comes out of it again.
Don’t be like Maga or fascists and rewrite history. We need to perserve it and learn from it
... because masks and vaccines are the mark of the beast, or something
Ask a young person the difference between The Soviet Union, USSR, and Russia. That's a fun one!
This killing of the CEO has literally been the only thing in a while, where both sides came together in agreement then came the drones (jangling keys) and the conversation
Theocracy and fascism aren't things we need to fear sliding back into, they're already happening.