“While there is rightful anger at the illegal sharing of military operations, one thing that hasn’t been focused on enough is that these people are also plotting against Europe.”
When the real truth is that the US regularly bankrupts and steals from the whole world, including Europe, and owes us a lot of money! We bailed the US out and sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq. More fool us.
There are so many horrible elements going on here. We are so far past impeachment and criminal charges for the whole administration that it is honestly terrifying.
The 23-year-old former Air National Guardsman, Jack Teixeira, was sentenced to 15 years in prison for leaking classified documents about the war in Ukraine. Now should he be released? since this is accepted now with excuses!
The journalist wasn’t let in by accident…there is no honor among thieves. They are fighting dirty among themselves for power. There’s a rat in the sack.
I think the real story is that the rest of us need to pull out of sharing intelligence with the USA ASAP!
Or we will have our intelligence shared with The Atlantic Magazine.
As an American I would agree with you. Our government can no longer be trusted in any way. I don't even know if the banking system will hold water. Save yourselves 💯
Goldberg did the right thing, absolutely, by revealing how this happened without himself leaking secret information while doing so! He’s the patriot. All others in that group are now proven traitors!
You cannot say that of any one of that feckless Signal group of shit-holes!
Proven because they used a platform they’d been warned to avoid like the plague! So was it convenience, or something more sinister? Here they can smugly pretend to claim negligence! Rather than criminal espionage! However, there is something known as criminal negligence. At least under English Law.
By using extra-governmental channels to discuss sensitive and top secret information in full knowledge of the illegality, they are traitors. The proof is their involvement and continued participation in the subterfuge with the only possible exception being the individual that invited the journo.
That's assuming the journalist wasn't invited by mistake. We have to face the fact that with the people involved, this may have been accidental and not some heroic act. Either way, it points to the need for an overhaul on a massive scale. Dems must act NOW. WE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT SAFE.
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@youranoncentral.bsky.social
One point that has been made is that the person who linked him in, wanted to whistle-blow the process by which these decisions are made...
Wasn’t it Mike Walz who formed the group chat? A related question is why was Goldberg in this person’s address book at all? Seems like someone wanted his contact in their phone to leak about either this incident or something else. I imagine the paranoia must be pretty high for this group right now.
No! That’s an up there & beyond the pale cockamamie overly kind “theory”! If Waltz wanted to whistle blow the process wide open all he had to was to report it with out embarrassing his felon boss! Right now he’s at least 1/3rd the blame as Hegseth the clown is at 2/3rd the blame!
The real real real story is our DOD is packed with incompetent, ignorant, egotistical, malevolent Russian assets who plot against the EU & other allies, we rendering the people unsafe.
Oh we all know Putin has dirt on the most “loyal” of them. They can bend the knee and kiss the boot, or they can be exposed, and maybe fly out a window.
These are dumb people. They probably fell for any number of “traps” set by Russia. I’m sure most of the turncoats have kiddie tapes somewhere
I believe you are right about that. I think the only thing with that would work on Trump is killing a family member. Remember, Ivana fell down the stairs to her death. And his kids seemed quite shaken up by that.
You can bet your last penny #IvanaTrump was pushed down the stairs, so #PutinsConvictedOrangeTurd could get his divorce costs money back via his gullible children.
Occurred to me the other day that China wants Outer Manchuria from Russia and recently released a map claiming it.
They have more material interests in line with Europe and Canada and interests directly against Russia and The US.
If war broke out, those may be the lines. Its all so fucking odd.
People forget that Putin held a speech at the 2007 Munich Security Conference where he basically outlined his goal of destroying the hegemony of US/Europe!
That is exactly what he has been working towards ever since!
Here's the thing, I think if it wasn't for the cold war and pressing concerns arising from that, the US would never have allowed Europe to flourish and unite. They want and always have wanted a collection of fattened up dependencies without self-sufficient peace or the power to uphold it.
Putin wishes our destruction as well for his own reasons, and we need to admit that their interests now have begun to increasingly intersect and act accordingly. Realpolitik doesn't lie, it just needs to be seen. The founders of the EU understood this need to unite, unfortunately it was slowed down.
And why wasn't the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on the call??? Hmmm. Not a loyalist the DUMPY Captain BONE SPURS, FELON?? Hopefully the CHEIFS are plotting a military COUP! I'd rather be governed by them temporarily than the SHIT SHOW we have now!
Personally I think trump (well his handlers) want to divvy up a good chunk of the world. Europe in particular. I believe putin has been moving into Africa for a while. trump etc want all of North America.. probably a lot of South America.. We have to get rid of these fascists. Corporate fascists.
The real issue to me is that they were using this communication apparatus intentionally to not have their discussions documented as they are supposed to.
I doubt this was the first time or the only time that has happened.
So what else is out there and who has access to it?
If only there were an elite non-Russian hacker group who could get into a 3rd party app on their unsecured personal phones... @youranoncentral.bsky.social
What the hell is a Trumpian? Why all these euphemisms for a Republican. It’s so much easier to simply refer to them as party members of the party they actually belong to which also has the benefit of being much more effective messaging.
#America can NO longer be trusted as a partner of the 'Five Eyes' programme and the allies should STOP sharing all sensitive information with the #USA immediately.
The levels of incompetence at ALL levels in the #trump regime defies logic.
Yes, the #Trump regime is an enemy of every democratic nation in the world. And, should be treated as such. Send all their European ambassadors home. Declare #MAGA a terrorist organization. Deny them all entry, for any reason. Don’t let their planes land… Shun them at every opportunity. #Europe #EU
Divide and disintegrate Europe, let Russians swallow it.
Daily sabotage, cyber crime, widespread disinformation campaigns, bought corrupt politicians across Germany, Netherlands, Poland, France, you name it.
The war is here, you can’t and you won’t escape it.
thats exactly what I thought! Why did everyone just dismiss the fact Vance was talking shit about Europe and he's tired of bailing them out??? WtAf????
What they have just inadvertently admitted is that the US is responsible for causing military disruptions in the Middle East. There bombing and civil destruction causes thousands of displaced people to seek refuge elsewhere. UK and Europe is sick of dealing with the refugees that America creates.
Exactly and the Trump admin have the audacity to praise Putin but also threaten to deport 500,000 Ukrainians fleeing the war. This US admins’ duplicitous behaviour knows no bounds.
I was surprised by the "at least on our side of the ledger" comment. In a group chat populated by people like Vance and Gabbard, I'm surprised they're keeping up the appearance that they're on the same side as Europe at all.
As a born European w v close ties to NY & a lot of American friends & people I respect, getting increasingly difficult to hold on to those positive feelings I have to NY (which is my second home)
Keep reminding myself that 50% of country didn’t want this
All white folks in the USA are descendants of European ancestors. White folks who hate Europe hate their own ancestors. Folks who hate their ancestors hate themselves.
What they have just inadvertently admitted is that the US is responsible for causing military disruptions in the Middle East. There bombing and civil destruction causes thousands of displaced people to seek refuge elsewhere. UK and Europe is sick of dealing with the refugees that America creates.
And that they are using Signal as a way to render subpoenas and FOIA useless. There will be no paper trail to follow. What else are the GOP using Signal for?!
Exactly. My thoughts exactly...
No doubt there are even worse things.
We are so exposed. They are so lazy and incompetent, as well as compromised. If we had real hearings a real question would be: Did you INTEND to let the Russians listen in?
They are running a shadow government off the grid that the senate and Congress had not known about . I'm sure this isn't the first time and have used burner phones like the last time they were in. I would drag them all in front of the senate intelligence committee.
The judge in the kidnapping of those Venezuelan might want to consider these outside apps and burner phones too. They are conducting a shadow government and they have gone off the grid.
Also they are likely using encrypted (but not totally secure) apps for many kinds of official discussions instead of normal channels because they want to prevent exposure via future FOIA requests.
Yes and the reaction here has been explosive. I have never seen such rage against the USA. The orange clown and his eye-liner wearing sidekick are the most despised world leaders since Hitler and Stalin. I kid you not.
It’s gonna be China Russia and the USA! The new axis of evil! They will start a war draft the black and brown people like they always do and kill us in large numbers! And the funniest part is that some POC voted for it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏼♂️🇺🇸👍🏿
And doing it on an app where the chat disappears after whatever time. NO ACOUNTABILITY. It is NIL among this group of rapists, fraudsters, gangsters, drunks, addicts, mediocre incompetent men.
These things still get stored in a cloud somewhere. Nothing is truly gone forever on the internet. (Besides the journalist's screenshots that preserved it all.) The fact they purposely used an app designed to get rid of the evidence should be the biggest red flag.
It’s that America is now run by a cabal who admit to plotting behind Trumps back and deciding policy amongst themselves and not telling him because they think Trump is a senile old fool.
I don’t think Trump cares. He wanted to avoid prison. He got his wish. Now he just wants to avoid taking responsibility for any of this shit and golf. If he hasn’t already, he’ll claim he knew nothing about it and for a change he might not be lying. He’s completely disinterested in governing.
Europe has always been Putins target, it's not a coincidence that since he installed puppets in their government they turned on Europe, It's what he does.
He's shit at war you may have noticed, Like Hitler he ignores sane advice from his generals, he IS however an expert in ideological subversion.
Because they don't want that. They want people of color in chains and the rest kept so poor we have no strength to fight. We must keep taking to the streets!
What they have just inadvertently admitted is that the US is responsible for causing military disruptions in the Middle East. There bombing and civil destruction causes thousands of displaced people to seek refuge elsewhere. UK and Europe is sick of dealing with the refugees that America creates.
Our deep relationships with Europe, both economically and militarily, prevent that “Dark Enlightenment” Musk and Thiel want so much. USA has to hit rock bottom first for them to “pick up the pieces” so to speak.
That worked back in 1932 (Roosevelt) but for that to happen, US democracy has to remain strong but I fear Trump c.s. will want to end that so they can remain in power.
I always felt that way about Musk. I know he went to Russia for awhile and he told United States not to but their equipments for some reasons. He was born and raised in South Africa, he has no attachment to any of these countries, just himself and his lineage
A) The EU is an economical power and hence, a competitor.
B) The EU regulations restrict Musk and Co. to protect European citizens. Hence the free speech rhetoric among others.
C) The revenge of a hurt narcissist. EU leaders tended to dislike Trump in his first presidency.
"Key partner." That is part of it. They don't think the US has or needs "partners." They think the US should be in charge and everyone, very much including Europe, should be subservient.
Vance is a Peter Thiel protege. It’s not that his orders came from Putin, it’s that Putin’s goals align with theirs. Look up Curtis Yarvin and the butterfly revolution if you want to know their endgame. It’s fucking terrifying.
They want to split Europe so that all of Europe does fight on the front against Russia so they are causing shit in Canada so that they can split the EU . Some EU countries will help Canada if the US starts some shit. They want Greenland because it's close to Canada and Iceland and Norway .
They don't realize that while they are busy with EU and Canada China will be carrying their invasion of South Korea , Philippines, Taiwan, Japan. Then throw in the disaster of Netanyahoo , and the Middle East. Don't know about China and North Korea what kind of relationship they have.
Hey. Where do you get NAFO intel? 🤔 Please keep in mind Putin throws out of the window people who have the ghost within. Hush it when FSB or 👽 comes. 😶🌫️
The real story is the rest of the iceburg. If all of these characters are doing this with their personal devices, they must be doing it every day with everything. What are the chances that just one of their personal devices are hacked with some kind of spyware already?
Another real story is that MAGA claims to hate liberal MSM journalists but those journalists are front and center in their contact address lists. They all want to be covered. It’s like Trump hating the NYT but Maggie Haberman could get an interview with him on a moments notice.
🇨🇵The second fresh shit JD Vance came to Europe in Munich for his first out US travel and told us what he think. So we know. Infortunately we have at home 25-35 % insane Maga copies & some of them hide very near governement in every country included France. We are on the same boat.
There are actually multiple offenses they should be jailed for immediately.
Using the app
Classified info on app
Unsecured phones
Lying to Congress
Lying to Americans
Doc retentions
To name a few.
I thought that was obvious ever since the USA tried to strongarm Ukraine into surrend...um...negotiating with Russia.
Well, here's the rest of what seems obvious. Trump wants Greenland so Putin can strategically flank both Europe AND democratic USA. He can militarize G'land with relative impunity.
I'm a newbie to BlueSky and learning. I would appreciate any direction. In a short amount of time I have been stunned how many knowledgeable and potentially powerful allies I'm discovering. Everyone is searching for answers. I have them. If you want to turn the tables. https://youtu.be/1Z4VK1OqvQI?si=1wIkoRt8hQFPQ3iU
Do we have a Congressionally Voted Upon/Approved war waging that we are unaware of? Let’s call this what it is: terrorist plots by representatives of The State against countries we do not have declared conflicts with.
Look Miss Universe 2013 in #Russia. The pageant according to Google maps was near a big Kremlin’s facility. Ask @billbrowder.bsky.social about the Russian corruption money froze.
Ok, hear me out. Is it possible that someone- familiar with the types of conversations on this chat- added the journalist “accidentally” on purpose…? If there are larger discussions about Europe- with Russia listening in- this is truly serious…
What I see is that China has all the power in this relationship and can alter the terms of it at any time, while actively making land claims on Russian territory and deeseclatating with the west.
All you sent was set dressing, not material conditions. Its fine, you'll see eventually.
Its fine. You'll agree with me in a few years when mainstream media catches up and the conditions mature. If you look at the material conditions, history, and stated goals of all parties involved in security memos, rather than public announcements, its obvious.
You are taking China's words at face value when deception is a huge part of their military doctrine. Art of war my dude.
Why invade a place that's been preparing for decades when they could invade a place they want more and would have an easier time with? Strategy. They have it, Americans don't.
Unless you are concidering US China relations under Trump, the absurdity of invading a massively prepared Taiwan, and China's active land claims in Russia; your analysis is missing core components. China will not join that Axis, its just not in any of their interests. They want to survive.
AND I have a sick feeling that "they" (either Stinky™ himself or one or more of his Fürherprincip-driven toadies) leaked this on purpose. If it hadn't happened who would be paying attention right now to all the "muscular stuff" he's doing in Yemen other than a tiny group of us foreign policy nerds?
Vance text, "3% of US trade runs through the suez. 40% of European trade does...'
SM text, '... president was clear: green light, but ... make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return...If the US successfully restores freedom of navigation..further economic gain extracted in return.”
And in the process shitting on all European service men/women who have fallen while fighting alongside the USA. It is a kick in the face for everyone whose lost a loved one. Rank shameful.
France, the Dutch Republic, Germany(Hessen) have all played important roles during the Revolutionary War; by providing troops (generals even), by delivering weapons, by turning a blind eye when weapons were smuggled from Ditch Carribean Islands.
Did Vance ever say ‘thank you’ for that?
I don’t know, but I guess Spain did as well, considering their presence on the continent.
The French King was very vocal in his support as he saw it as a way to weaken arch-nemesis Great Britain.
Yes, Spain, too, supported the colonies' press for independence from Britain.
The US owes a debt to the French, Spanish, Dutch, and Polish for their roles in winning the American Revolution. All provided money and materiel, some provided troops, as well.
Liberal Americans need to understand that they are going to be as unwelcome on this continent as MAGAts unless they seriously ramp up the ferocity of their resistance to Trump.
I already know everyone hates me. My own country, the international community, the whole world thinks I'm evil. I've had many comments from people telling me exactly that.
Rupert Murdoch has done so much damage to the world. If there is a just god out there, I hope him, the apartheid psycho, the child predator, and everyone that is part of this adminostration have to experience the hurt they've caused.
"As a result of their karma, they are afflicted with an insatiable hunger for a particular substance or object. Traditionally, this is something repugnant"
The news is suppressing the resistance here. There have been consistent protests country wide since January. There are boycotts, petitioning elected leaders, etc
This is such a lame narrative about suppressed news. If there were millions out there protesting we would know anyways. And everyone with half a brain doesn’t need to see others protesting to know what would be the right thing to do right now. Americans are just lazy fucks who don’t care.
Respectfully, Americans need to look to protests in Turkey, Hungary, Georgia and Iran, and ask themselves if US protests are of the same scale and intensity.
There’s plenty to be done within each state. General strikes. Pushing the states to resist the illegitimate federal government. Putting every local organized republican behind bars for supporting the coup. Washington can’t do shit if the rest of the country says ” fuck you, make me” and means it.
His job is to ensure NATO's survival because if it collapses, we may never be able to rebuild it. That means playing this charade and potentially allowing NATO to "hibernate" in all but name. He probably has the toughest job on the planet, and I sincerely hope he succeeds.
A man that used to inspire many engineers that grew up on dreams of the moon to make Mars a reality, including myself.
He's fallen low, to rock bottom, revealing an angsty teen side to him that needed loving parents not affluent ones, and became a horrible father and a punishing autocrat.
He went on a fascist Quixotic approach to attack windmills, perhaps to deal with his miserable existence.
It is glaringly obvious this is not a happy man at all, nor will his crusade change that.
In his flailing destruction he exposes the otherwise stealthy oligarchy at least. He's dangerous.
This is not the first time they use an unsecured group chat. It’s the first time they have been caught. With 100% certainty they’ve been using this unsecure group chat since January 21.
It is crucial that Europeans remain united and vigilant in the face of attempts at manipulation. Europe must defend its fundamental values of democracy, solidarity and cooperation, and not allow itself to be influenced by foreign agendas.
The USA never saw Europe as a friend or ally, but as a competitor on the world stage. They fear a Ukrainian victory, as that would lead to an even stronger Europe. Nothing changed with Trump, it is just more in the open.
Does he know that Red Sea and Suez Canal are not in Europe ? What is the point between Houtis and Europe ? The Houtis pirate threatens worlds sea traffic, not only European one.
The way it’s written and emoji use, especially towards the end, reminds me of when my sons were pre-teens.
These men are basically pre-pubescent boys that haven’t grown up.
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There are several “real” stories and they all matter.
The cold war never ended.
!!!???
Korea
Desert Storm
Iraq War
9/11
Afghanistan War
9/11 the whole world stood by America in its hour of need.
In their tiny brains they figure WWIII means they are entitled to own the world afterwards. Like they already act like since after WWII 😑
I reckon the EU thinks so, too, but in ways the US is not going to be happy with.
Or we will have our intelligence shared with The Atlantic Magazine.
You cannot say that of any one of that feckless Signal group of shit-holes!
@youranoncentral.bsky.social
One point that has been made is that the person who linked him in, wanted to whistle-blow the process by which these decisions are made...
I predict the blame game will go public about...
Now!
These are dumb people. They probably fell for any number of “traps” set by Russia. I’m sure most of the turncoats have kiddie tapes somewhere
He wasn't
They have more material interests in line with Europe and Canada and interests directly against Russia and The US.
If war broke out, those may be the lines. Its all so fucking odd.
He should be in Jail.
That is exactly what he has been working towards ever since!
Plus, these guys are incompetent! I hate Nazis!
Either we wake up NOW, or we’re all doomed!
https://www.desmog.com/2025/03/14/heritage-foundation-project-2025-allies-mcc-ordo-iuris-discuss-dismantling-the-eu-european-union/
It's grotesque.
I doubt this was the first time or the only time that has happened.
So what else is out there and who has access to it?
The levels of incompetence at ALL levels in the #trump regime defies logic.
https://youtu.be/iZ8mowuxX9U?si=j0dskUDUCXjKhM_q
#resist #3e
Daily sabotage, cyber crime, widespread disinformation campaigns, bought corrupt politicians across Germany, Netherlands, Poland, France, you name it.
The war is here, you can’t and you won’t escape it.
https://bsky.app/profile/lino1314.bsky.social/post/3ll5au256fc2p
Keep reminding myself that 50% of country didn’t want this
As to the rest, fxxx u
tRump is living his dream!
To be as infamous as Hitler!
No doubt there are even worse things.
We are so exposed. They are so lazy and incompetent, as well as compromised. If we had real hearings a real question would be: Did you INTEND to let the Russians listen in?
This conspiracy is a huge one I'm afraid.
It’s that America is now run by a cabal who admit to plotting behind Trumps back and deciding policy amongst themselves and not telling him because they think Trump is a senile old fool.
It’s a systemic conspiracy at the top of government
SNAPCHAT
We are so fucked 🤦♀️
Any competent hacker can access a phone. Odds of US enemies having those chats is 100%.
Everyone involved must be arrested right now, and their phones confiscated and searched
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-envoy-steve-witkoff-signal-text-group-chat-russia-putin/
Can't even imagine what other US secrets they're leaking
1 guess.
"On the military action, Goldberg reported that the account named JD Vance wrote: "I think we are making a mistake.""
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr52yrgq48no
He's shit at war you may have noticed, Like Hitler he ignores sane advice from his generals, he IS however an expert in ideological subversion.
And response from uk government: crickets.
B) The EU regulations restrict Musk and Co. to protect European citizens. Hence the free speech rhetoric among others.
C) The revenge of a hurt narcissist. EU leaders tended to dislike Trump in his first presidency.
Russia is a red herring. Even the Trump Gaza stuff seems to be a red herring for Thiels Praxis Nation project.
My only question is where China stands on this as the US and Russia plan to divvy up the world's resources.
Blockades are a major threat going forward as well, until Americans can get rid of the Trump regime.
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Using the app
Classified info on app
Unsecured phones
Lying to Congress
Lying to Americans
Doc retentions
To name a few.
We’re CONSTANTLY being lied to, and there seems very little consequence these days.
Well, here's the rest of what seems obvious. Trump wants Greenland so Putin can strategically flank both Europe AND democratic USA. He can militarize G'land with relative impunity.
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Forking useless
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#VladimirPutinIsAWarCriminal & #XiJinping eagerly await #USDefenseSecretary #PeteHesgeth latest text messages
Since Bretton Woods 1945 the primary focus has been the primacy of the US dollar and the hegemony that monopoly preserves.
The uni-polar world order is sitting on a wall ... beginning to fall.
rather than planning
They are preparing for war with Russia and America. Which makes them part of the Allies. Very weird timeline.
All you sent was set dressing, not material conditions. Its fine, you'll see eventually.
Russia will work with a fascist America, China won't. That will be very obvious very soon.
You aren't paying attention to what being done, only what your being told.
Its fine. You'll agree with me in a few years when mainstream media catches up and the conditions mature. If you look at the material conditions, history, and stated goals of all parties involved in security memos, rather than public announcements, its obvious.
Why invade a place that's been preparing for decades when they could invade a place they want more and would have an easier time with? Strategy. They have it, Americans don't.
SM text, '... president was clear: green light, but ... make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return...If the US successfully restores freedom of navigation..further economic gain extracted in return.”
That's the addled mindset of Krasnov; great that you helped us out but what did *I* get and was it since my last ego stroking?
#FuckJD
Did Vance ever say ‘thank you’ for that?
The French King was very vocal in his support as he saw it as a way to weaken arch-nemesis Great Britain.
The US owes a debt to the French, Spanish, Dutch, and Polish for their roles in winning the American Revolution. All provided money and materiel, some provided troops, as well.
- Hatuey
It's the SYSTEM that's evil.
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He will bypass an Animal reincarnation.
Straight to a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preta
'Hungry Ghost'
"As a result of their karma, they are afflicted with an insatiable hunger for a particular substance or object. Traditionally, this is something repugnant"
Awkward
US is committed to article 5 (the defense of its members)
💀
I told you so.
100% grade A manure.
Never trust a word out of his mouth.
Placating fears and unrealistic tactics don't help strengthen European interests or NATO.
Siding with a US government that clearly doesn't care at all about the EU (as seen again today) is naive and damaging.
Pass
He's fallen low, to rock bottom, revealing an angsty teen side to him that needed loving parents not affluent ones, and became a horrible father and a punishing autocrat.
(1/2)
It is glaringly obvious this is not a happy man at all, nor will his crusade change that.
In his flailing destruction he exposes the otherwise stealthy oligarchy at least. He's dangerous.
(2/2)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2er9j83x0zo
Mike Waltz is a grown ass man.
💩 👱🏻♂️
The Secretary of Defense
Saying this.
He does not represent America and he must be removed from this position.
He's certainly no 4 star General
These men are basically pre-pubescent boys that haven’t grown up.