I think one aspect beside everything like our country being racist and misogynistic, is that kamala didn't join the election until much later on, unlike how most do it which I do belive had some affect in getting supporters since she had way less time
As long as we continue to allow people with power to hold it, to spread whatever hateful rhetoric they know keeps their base happy and their pockets lined, as long we allow them to spread the disease to younger people and cripple the education system--this will continue to happen. Over and over.
In the first Reagan administration when he deregulated media ownership this is exactly what people like my parents (silent generation, 50s liberals) said would eventually happen. They died decades before they could see it but they weren't naive.
2016 was one thing because surprisingly there were a lot of people who didn't know what he was...but now in 2024 that sheet has long since been ripped away for all to see AND he still got elected! I just don't have words.
The racism and misogyny is the point. This is going to be so harmful world wide it's not even within our grasp yet how bad it will be but, as long as the order of things stays the same for the bigots they're fine with that.
I thought we were better than this but I’m kind of embarrassed for having thought that. Insofar as I’ve read books and everything. “I can change him” writ large
We really are more racist and misogynistic than I had feared. It took the last 4 years to begin to build back some of my faith in people. That has been completely demolished.
The only positives I can take away, is that Dems now have the house so it won’t rubber stamp his fascist nonsense, and he cannot pass/amend the 27th to stay past this term.
Sadly, it seems like a sizable amount of people don’t take others at their word. They only understand upon seeing the action, if not it directly effecting themselves
I'm still hopeful that we can build a better future for the one hundred seventy million women in this country, but it won't be by putting one of them in the White House.
We need to accept the median voters for who they are, and give them what they clearly want: an angry, loud white man.
Sigh... it's a country founded on hate. We like to pretend otherwise, that there are other ideals, and/or that we've moved beyond it. But the hate is always there, twisted and ugly.
i understand it a little too much, having grown up and lived in rural sw red-voting ohio my whole life. people are stuck in their old, evil ways and respond to the mere suggestion of progress with violence and hatred.
I'm in Florida (pre-thanks for your condolences) where amendment 4 failed with 57% of the vote. A substantial number of Floridians voted to protect a woman's right to abortion, only to vote for the man who took it away in the first place. I truly don't understand why, or how.
You know, I hoped, hoped that it would be different, that I would see that bullies don’t win, but instead it was more of the same. The loudmouth jerks in school were the same in church and work, the bullies win, and the people voting for them justify it through religion
Was in a bar that I watched the 2016 election fearfully watched with others
It had been a local rock bar. Got sold. Now it is a sports bar. Everyone there today was so calm. None of the usual people. Made the hair stand up in the back of my head. Now I know.
I don’t wanna fucking hear it, we’ve had to deal with constant defamation and death threats just because we exist and we’ve been killed in broad daylight. We’ve had social parasites go 3rd party all for social media good points.Calling for war is stupid but self defense has never been more important
Things is, using that gun in self defense against fascism will be de facto illegal in most cases, outside of certain states - & soon enough, even there.
Maybe a few people going to prison for self defense will help people see the fascism - if media report it.
I think self defense is pretty much the limit of what we can do. We're getting no help from anybody anywhere else, if we don't have each other's backs, we got nothing.
I don't know, maybe if the Democrats hadn't spent the last 40 years trying to abandon the working class and actually got a living wage minimum wage, a right to a job, and single payer, maybe they wouldn't get blown the fuck out in every election.
It’s a factory: Homeschool (or private school) your kids, devalue college, and raise them in your little cult with no understanding of history. One political party is playing a different “game” entirely.
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we really took a three steps back Tonight
Now the goal is keep my head down, survive, wait for those trigger laws and possibly leave the country. Can’t believe I even have to think this way.
I didn't encompass the entirety of your comment. Sorry. It's been one of those days. (since 0130 EST) 😮💨
More will learn in future. Especially if we give them good fucking reasons to do so, and I suspect they're about to encounter those regardless.
We need to accept the median voters for who they are, and give them what they clearly want: an angry, loud white man.
It sucks.
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It had been a local rock bar. Got sold. Now it is a sports bar. Everyone there today was so calm. None of the usual people. Made the hair stand up in the back of my head. Now I know.
People like being their worst, most hateful selves, and when they're not punished for it, the rot just flourishes.
This is so very, very true in the U.S. it HURTS.
Anybody who would be foolish enough to ask me for advice today, I would say buy a gun. Buy several guns.
Also, fuck hope. Hope is a prelude to disappointment.
Maybe a few people going to prison for self defense will help people see the fascism - if media report it.
I mean we live in the fucking Purge now.
The Dems abandoned the working class.