It should be illegal to review an Indiana Jones videogame if you haven't seen at least one of the Indiana Jones movies. Like, straight to jail. Only a 30 day sentence but there has to be some consequences.
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Man, I loved the original trilogy as a kid and planned on watching all 3 today before playing the game tomorrow and I couldn’t even finish Raiders. I don’t know if they don’t hold up or if it’s just that I wasn’t in the mood. TBF, 90% of the shit I loved as a kid turns out to be shit on rewatch 🤣
Who in the hell hasn’t at least seen Raiders??
Shame on them, why are they even allowed to leave their houses? We can’t have these type of monsters roaming the street!
This deeply hurts and I think someone should apologize to Harrison Ford. 🤷🏻♂️
I've never seen an Indy movie but now I'm super interested. I've been playing since 8:30 and I can't put the game down. I've barely even done anything, I'm just exploring and punching enemies in the head. It's spectacular!
Its called freedom of speech. You can disregard someones opinion based on their lack of familiarity with the franchise, but legal action against them would be unconstitutional
They're talking about the game being able to work on its own as a videogame and not rely too much on pre established knowledge, and especially because people today don't give a shit about Indiana Jones and will be lost if the game assumes you watched the movies for critical information.
Staying faithful and consistent does not mean it cant stand on its own.
For what its worth skill ups commebt is pure hyperbole. No one actually thinks that. My point was to highlight the ridiculousness of the need to commebt but clearly nuance is lost on you all.
I mean yeah, that's not my point. I'm not talking about straying from the source material, I'm saying the story needs to stand on its own and not rely too much on previous knowledge. Examples: X-Men 97, Fury Road, Terminator 2, Glass Onion, The Suicide Squad, any Evil Dead movie, etc.
i loved Riddick escape from butcher bay when never having seen any of those films at the time. it was so good in fact i later thought the movies were based on the games rather the other way about lol Games should absolutely be able to stand on their own.
What? Staying somewhat faithful to the source material.
Its absolutely a good thing. And no, i am not talking abiut if someone from a different ethnicity plays a character. I am cool with that. I am talking the spirit of the source material.
it's funny we have so much tension over major outlets picking one person to represent their stance on a game when publications figured this out ages ago, having four reviewers give a number and one tiny paragraph each. you can choose to average them, or just pick the one that speaks to you
Some peeps are out there with some pretty crazy takes about the game... It's wild and foolish to me that someone would try to downplay the one aspect of the game getting the most praise from everyone... Almost feels like they went into it with baggage and didn't give it due diligence.
You know what's even more illegal than reviewing an Indiana Jones game without seeing the movies? Having an opinion. Just sit back, enjoy the whip-cracking action, and let the critics do their thing. Unless they're talking about the graphics, then we're all in trouble.
I would actually be more interested I their review/opinion than someone that loves Indiana Jones. To see the game just as a game and be clouded by any preconceived notions about what it should be or do.
Fortunately most reviews did us a favor of mentioning that they weren’t big fans of the trilogy. So that was usually my queue to skip it. I mean… who do they think they are!?
What should be illegal is too enough influence and followers to sink a game on your opinion while hundreds of devs worked for years just to be clip by one man’s opinion
And your cellmate is a guy who has seen all the movies a hundred times and can’t wait to describe them as well as behind the scenes information and personal observations
3 was always my favorite when I was younger. Watching it again a couple years ago, it seemed really...too jokey. Like, way too jokey. It's moved down to #2 and it's not that close.
(I'll admit though that I can understand the opinion that Temple of Doom is a bad movie with a handful of incredible moments. I dont agree, but I get it)
There are 5. The last 2 have some problems but they still have the same spirit of the first 3 IMO. I rewatch Crystal Skull often - it's a lot of fun, vine-swinging scene nonwithstanding.
you cant have an opinion about eternal darkness: sanity’s requiem unless you’ve really been tormented by both eldritch horrors and the ghosts of your ancestors, while at the same time, losing your grasp on reality.
To be fair, neither of those things really helps with understanding Kingdom Hearts. If anything, it might just leave you irked at how underrepresented Final Fantasy 9 and Emperor's New Groove is in the series.
About 18 years ago, before I pivoted out of journalism, I got stuck reviewing all the 2k American sports games despite never seeing a single basketball or American football game in my life... People were not happy that I found the games 'overcomplicated'
My first intro to dune was the original PC game (which is brilliant).
Stands to reason many have similarly odd intros to things.
Though not having seen Indiana Jones at all raises questions about your upbringing.
I watched them as a kid flipping through channels on TV.
But younger people? They probably never flipped through channels on a Satruday night watching random movies because it's the only thing interesting playing.
I understand that this post was written in hyperbole, but - I politely disagree. :) I think we also need reviewers who have come into the series with a new pair of eyes, in order to be able to speak to gamers who also have never watched an indy film before.
I guess people can review things without knowing the base content since there's a pretty wide audience that's not seen the first three movies. But also if they don't review it then I have to face the fact that the Last Crusade came out 35 years ago and I just gotta wither up like the Old Snake gif.
Counter point: the review should be done by two people: one familiar with the lore, and one who discovers it with the game. The first reviewer can focus on how faithful the game is to the franchise, the second can focus more on how accessible it is and how it stands as a video game.
At this point they should send a few limited time stream codes for them with the review codes for the game, but that would be like bribing the reviewer soooo... uninformed game reviews... yaaaaaay.
Has this happened somewhere? I’m struggling to imagine a pro game reviewer that hasn’t seen ALL of the Indy movies at least once. Maybe the newer stuff not so much…
I am fully not surprised that a bunch of games “journalists” immediately came out with shit awful takes about the original n*zi hunter media, there’s always been a stunning amount of ignorance to subject matter allowed in the industry.
Nothing like gatekeeping eh? Some people's first experience of Indiana Jones will be that game, and their opinions matter as much if not more because they aren't nostalgia goggled into liking it. I assume this is a a bait post so you win.
I don’t really get why the inter-dimensional aliens are a bridge too far when like, MULTIPLE gods apparently can deliver their holy power onto this world.
No. Views of someone who has never interacted with indiana jones and this game is the first experience is valuable to others who never saw the films but want to try the game. Lets us see how well it holds up to average joe who isnt card carrying nostalgic fan who'll gloss over flaws in the game.
Id think most would fell between the two extremes?
They've seen the films because... If you watch films you probably have seen them. They're mega famous classics.
But they don't have any particularly strong feelings about them.
given recent box office performances Indiana Jones isnt the mainstay he once was in culture plenty of people buying a console for the first time will have little knowledge of the franchise just want to know 'is this game good on its own'
remember playin likes of 'scarface world is yours' or 'riddick escape from butchers bay' having never seen those films at the time and loving them. i think it was important they worked on their own like that and some reviews come from people like that who had no other experience other than the games
The deeper I get into it, the more that I feel similarly, but for people that never played Riddick. I was unprepared for how much of a spiritual sequel it is.
I find it pretty wild that there are people--especially those in the industry--who *haven't* seen any of the films! Aren't they a prescribed part of childhood education?
I hear you. But...no. And a little yes.
The game is really good enough to stand on it's own, but sure, you will probably enjoy the atmosphere and the nazipunching more if you watched at least the third one, which is the pinnacle of Indiana Jones-dom, in my opinion.
But really, you do you. :)
Random question:
Do you think this game's visuals are actually something that deserves an RTX 3080 and 32GB of RAM or do you think the optimization was just not that well.
I'm averaging ~80 fps at 3440x1440 on DF's 8GB recommended settings on a 3070 and 7800X3D.
It looks fine and runs great, it's just very VRAM hungry is the issue. Were it not for the VRAM requirements, this game would run very well on hardware as low as a 3060 probably.
In a feverdream I half-remember an Indiana Jones movie where he's REALLY old, in his underwear, and properly miserable. I'm glad I woke up tbh (I never have finished that one).
Many years ago I remember one of the first porn parodies that I saw was Indiana Bones and the Temple of poon. I have to imagine even that would be preferable till whatever the hell it is that last movie was
Not a reviewer, but I havent seen any of the IJ movies. Keep in mind I was born 2005, just puttin that out there. Anyway, personally I think the game is great so far, especially graphics-wise. Ive only made it a little into the first post-prologue mission but its a nice mixed-bag type of experience
Counterpoint: the franchise it belongs to should have little bearing on whether it’s a good game or not. Someone not tainted by bias for or against the IP is actually the best person to ask for the actual quality of the game.
My uncle was an extra in the film. He was the one that told Steven to make that shot cause it kinda looks like the paramount mountain at the opening fade in.
My uncle was an extra in it. He told Steven to make that shot cause it looks like the paramount logo at fade in. He took these pics when he was on set.
Well said.
Let me add on a practical level Mr. Panebianco is still running a business. As a youtuber he wants to be seen and having his name on all the place to attract attention.
Also should be noted if he deletes his twitter account someone is just going to impersonate him.
Can I just say how hilarious it is that the system requirements seemed like a red flag only for it to be one of the most optimized and polished PC games in years
Like what if that one movie is Crystal Skull? Can we gatekeep and girlboss those people for reviewing? (Not self reporting, I’ve seen them all except Dial of Destiny)
As someone who absolutely has not watched and has no interest in watching the movies, reviews from people who likewise have not seen them are valuable to me to determine if it's good as a "video game" or a "movie game."
Agreed. Any reviewer who says the game sucks but hasn't seen the movies should immediately receive a whip to the jaw and an ark of the covenant to the eyeballs
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Shame on them, why are they even allowed to leave their houses? We can’t have these type of monsters roaming the street!
This deeply hurts and I think someone should apologize to Harrison Ford. 🤷🏻♂️
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Why should games be any differen?
cramming a 40 game into a 2 hour movie is hard
For what its worth skill ups commebt is pure hyperbole. No one actually thinks that. My point was to highlight the ridiculousness of the need to commebt but clearly nuance is lost on you all.
Its absolutely a good thing. And no, i am not talking abiut if someone from a different ethnicity plays a character. I am cool with that. I am talking the spirit of the source material.
So I’m guessing I’d hate this game?
I've seen all of about 2 Star Wars movies in my life, but I can still tell if I enjoy the games or not 🤷🏻♂️
"The tutorial to Indiana Jones and The Great Circle is a series of cliches found in adventure movies dating back to the 80s."
The intro is literally the first movie
I have ideas...
I am in though, it looks beautiful
The rest of it was...fine. It did generally feel like an Indiana Jones movie which was nice.
I am confused.
In 50 years, you will be the boomer, and the younger generations might not see eye to eye with you either.
Stands to reason many have similarly odd intros to things.
Though not having seen Indiana Jones at all raises questions about your upbringing.
But younger people? They probably never flipped through channels on a Satruday night watching random movies because it's the only thing interesting playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxeAuWTduC4
Thanks for sharing!
Bring back the platform game!
I have weird gaps in the culturally relevant movies I've seen, okay?
See e.g. some reviews of Uncharted, or Tomb Raider, or Last of Us...
(NOT saying that the quality is the same, to be clear.
And not even touching Star Wars with a stick! 😉)
But with most franchises nowadays, it can easily become a "chicken or egg" problem... 🤔
Take gamergate, for example.
And the refrigerator.
And aliens.
🤔😁
CGI
Prairie
Dogs
It's much easier to reference the 'holy grail', people understand why thats important very easily.
'Zergloks chalice of alien power' has a lot more explaining
both are possible, Zergs takes more story work
There are rules to follow, guardrails to stay within, which tends to make the writing better and make suspension of disbelief easier.
Aliens were just lazy and believable.
Plus the fridge.
They've seen the films because... If you watch films you probably have seen them. They're mega famous classics.
But they don't have any particularly strong feelings about them.
Should be required viewing for anyone working in popular media.
The game is really good enough to stand on it's own, but sure, you will probably enjoy the atmosphere and the nazipunching more if you watched at least the third one, which is the pinnacle of Indiana Jones-dom, in my opinion.
But really, you do you. :)
Do you think this game's visuals are actually something that deserves an RTX 3080 and 32GB of RAM or do you think the optimization was just not that well.
https://youtu.be/xbvxohT032E?si=3CRRz4wxTu3uI-Ig
TL;DW: the more memory, the better, but you can scale all the way down to 8GB of memory.
Any additional memory you give it will be put to good use.
It looks fine and runs great, it's just very VRAM hungry is the issue. Were it not for the VRAM requirements, this game would run very well on hardware as low as a 3060 probably.
Review (with stipulation that you must do full completion/platinum) of Gollum.
Skillup is a good reviewer. Who wants to make money. That's it.
You need to chill the fuck out, pick better battles, and have more introspection.
I assume you don't use Google or Windows either?
Let me add on a practical level Mr. Panebianco is still running a business. As a youtuber he wants to be seen and having his name on all the place to attract attention.
Also should be noted if he deletes his twitter account someone is just going to impersonate him.
https://bsky.app/profile/bignerdgaming.bsky.social/post/3lctlkm2l622e
(Apologies to all those involved in making those ones. I fully appreciate the difficulty in making them and this is just a joke) ❤️
Asking for a friend.
If you do this, you should do time.