We can stop doing experiments on this now! We know the outcome! It's always the same outcome! Just give people money! - ThreadSky

rahaeli.bsky.social • 432 days ago

We can stop doing experiments on this now! We know the outcome! It's always the same outcome! Just give people money!

Another basic income pilot focused on homelessness has released preliminary results after only 6 months because halfway through the experiment, it is already showing incredible effectiveness.

$750/mo for 6 months led to homelessness dropping to 12% versus 23% in the control group on a wait list.

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danshinwastaken.bsky.social•432 days ago

Theres this one goblin in the gov that totally knows those assholes would never implement it, so it keeps making experiments, as many as possible

monkeyminion.com•432 days ago

They’ll keep doing experiments until they get the proof they’re looking for that says UBI has bad outcomes.

amypisces.bsky.social•432 days ago

They just think that people will stop working and take free money, despite studies saying that most people do keep working. They just work one job now instead of 3. Or they'll work part-time or stop because they can afford to live AND go to school now!

margoose.bsky.social•432 days ago

Or they'll finally get enough rest and/or the health care/therapy that they need and yes, some of them will not return to work, but is work actually the only thing that makes a person worthwhile?

isomorphism.net•432 days ago

Counterpoint: start a longitudinal study with 35,000,000 participants

briesmith.xyz•432 days ago

But if we give people money just for existing, that eliminates a large portion of our easily exploitable wage slaves

tzoq.bsky.social•432 days ago

Who would have thought that the Goons had the cure all this time?

"Gad! This man is suffering from poverty. Take this bottle of pound notes and inject them into his wallet three times a day."

-- The Goon Show, "The Spon Plague", 1958/03/03

kithrup.bsky.social•432 days ago

We keep giving billionaires more money and it doesn't seem to help.

margoose.bsky.social•432 days ago

Maybe we should try an upper limit?

kithrup.bsky.social•432 days ago

Means testing is bad. (Really. Give everyone money.)

margoose.bsky.social•432 days ago

I honestly mean don't just give billionaires more money. If we're giving everyone money, that's fine.

claiborne.bsky.social•432 days ago

But almost nobody has actually implemented it, so the primary way that people actually see the benefits of UBI is through the continuous cycle of studies proving its efficacy.

catkimbriel.bsky.social•432 days ago

Did you see this, rah?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/12/07/1217478771/its-one-of-the-biggest-experiments-in-fighting-global-poverty-now-the-results-ar

rahaeli.bsky.social•432 days ago

Yes!

catkimbriel.bsky.social•432 days ago

Also, this one--

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/05/1217437174/people-can-do-more-with-lump-sum-of-money-than-payments-experiment-in-kenya-sugg

jeninmotion.bsky.social•432 days ago

WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED. You on the street? You qualify for whatever? HERE IS YOUR 1200. Likewise: oh, that's a child that is yours? Here's your monthly 500. The end.