It’s very sad and horrifying. So many brilliant foreign students, wanting to study here, and bring their talents to the US, only to have fear of jail or deportation by MAGA be a deterrent.
All these warnings of what institutions have to do to protect themselves before tRump takes office should be the starkest reason to NOT let him take office!
Bad to have Trump's Stormtroopers come to campuses to haul away students for deportation. Presently, what is promised is only going after criminals, but not specified is what level of criminal.
It is and the Labour government in Australia, rather than oppose it, instead jumped on the populist bandwagon with a bill to reduce foreign student placements. The Conservatives flip flopped leaving them with egg on their faces. A tactic I can foresee the Republicans using if Dems aren't savvy.
But what are they going to do after this semester/term ends? Will they not be able to go home until after they fully finish their education at the university, only because they risk the possibility of not being able to come back, despite having a student visa? Just nuts …
It’s not insane. It’s rational in regime hostile to those who bring talents from abroad. What’s insane is willingly ceding our place as premiere nation for education & innovation because xenophobia is “popular”, apparently. Ask @nytimes.com They explain better why it’s a good thing to self-sabotage.
Honestly, SOME of those foreign students, the ones targeting, threatening and harassing Jewish students on campus - NEED TO BE DEPORTED. And the ones who aren't foreign, expelled.
We were "lucky" we were forced into buying some high ticket items the last year.
We then moved up some purchases we knew we needed in the next 6-12 months. Don't want to support the idiot's economy in any way as well as avoiding tariffs.
I feel like that policy was maybe something he was midway through naming when someone cut him off and made him commit?
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Honestly, If I were a foreign student I would be tickled fucking pink never to set foot in this country again until Trump is nothing but a dusty footnote in a history book.
I know the answers to that are likely varied and complex, but you know the affected students have got to be asking themselves if it's worth the risk to re-enter the country.
Our faculty union advised us to discuss this with our students, to make sure our international students and those who may have non-citizen status are back in on 1/20/25. That’s just terrifying.
I saw an interview with a public official in Dearborn who was saying some constituents who either voted for Trump or stayed home lost tens of relatives in Gaza since October 7. As sympathetic as I am fellow-human-wise, not every trauma based decision is a good one. In fact, most of them aren’t.
Wait, while this may well be true, and reason for panic. It is also true that international students do get reminders to be in country for the semester to be enrolled. Unless the study at that time requires one to be abroad.
The seminary I attended for my MDiv (and are currently attending for a DMin) is doing the exact same thing. That's Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary in Evanston IL. (a UMC seminary)
No one really knows WHAT will happen...
I know. But we have to, to be here for those who aren't as strong or experienced with hardship as we are. At least as a GenXer, I know our toughness will be needed.
You're right, and I will be here. Some days are just harder than others, and this is one of those days. Thanks so much for the pep talk, though. It helps!
Musk purchasing Twitter (with Saudi Prince help) was far worse than Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal.
Clearly the same game played, but no apparent "scandal" when purchasing the Personal Identifiable Information for the purpose of overthrowing a government.
What happens to students who may have already paid tuition, but are unable to re-enter the country? Sounds like a lot of $ may be lost/put back on schools
Companies are doing the same Molly. Telling foreign national employees to refrain from international travel around Inauguration Day and in the weeks after as they wait to learn what, if any, travel bans will be rolled out quickly.
Too many American’s brains are cooked and we all have to pay the price for it. If I were the parent of a foreign exchange student I am not sure I would want my kid to come back to a country with so many zombies.
Is they plan to set up their mass delivered green tents and harass Jewish students like they did last year, maybe they should skip this year. Freedom of speech does not cover violence and hate speech.
avg. costs/year at Harvard is ~80k (tuition, housing, fees, meals).
23/24 there were 6700 foreign students, if half of them stay away:
Total damage 268m
Yes, numbers rounded but the impact will be visible.
(source: https://Harvard.edu)
Someone should explain to him how this drives the best and brightest to the universities of other countries (especially Canada) and makes those countries stronger.
Wait where are the lawyers? Won’t they be lined up to defend people like last time? It’s almost more worrying to see everyone caving beforehand as though they know Democracy, or what’s left of it, won’t hold. Couldn’t we have done more to protect our republic? Why didn’t we?
I’m wondering if a lot of colleges and universities are going to see significantly lower international student enrollments over the next few years. Since most hike tuition super high for international students, this revenue cut will hit already-hurting state institutions.
You’re right. Community and technical colleges will be hit hardest, and they’re often the only chance that low-income, first-generation, and underrepresented students have to get a degree. State funding has been slashed, many have relied on int’l. tuition to stay afloat. (I’m a retired CC dean).
I am just speechless this is happening again. How have we managed as a society
Globally to regress. It’s like we’re entering Idiocracy 2.0. Education scares the right. Educated people don’t vote for them. They need stupid to thrive. They need fear.
Coming from an academic in the U.K. the lack of international student numbers has decimated our HE sector. Layoffs, Underperforming, Inflating grades due to a reduction in talent. It’s sickening.
I am a student of history, WW 2 in particular and I despair because none of my friends or family believe me when I tell them I see history repeating itself. I feel like Cassandra.
Exactly. And there is bombardment from all sides. The appointments being made and their repercussions, plans for things like the FBI, going after the J 6 committee, deportation, etç I think it's meant to be a blitzkrieg.
This is America, we asked for it and I hope the people who voted for the old criminal are happy, and I hope the "good times" fall like a ton of bricks on the red states of the south.
The medical field in Boston and its Institutions will take a hit on this. We have so many talented people from all over the world that come here to become some of the greatest minds in the industry. There already is a shortage of so many in medicine- this will make it worse.
Start the #resistance in your city, gather friends and family. Organize a march or a protest.
Remember to remain NON-VIOLENT.
Use your voice and your pen.
Teach the girls how to fight dirty. (YBMC)
Teach boys to respect/protect women.
There is no time to lose! Start NOW.
Republicans got rid of DEI to give their under achieving kids an easy way to get into college. They are now using WEI (White Entitled Incompetent or inept) as the only qualifications you need.
Wasn't there a discussion fairly recently about T raiding the university's endowment with a tax? So, even if they get in the country prior to any travel restrictions, it won't be long before the uni has to cut services.
It’s equal parts retarded & insane, topped with virtue-signaling & identity politics. Pathetic, but not surprising as it comes the birthplaces of the woke mind virus.
It’s BULL SHIT! This is infuriating that we have a freak ass insane man in WH & the rest of America & institutions have to actually prepare for the cruelty that’s coming. I mean think about that. WTF
New Zealand. I lived there for four years. Married a New Zealander, moved here, had a child… divorced after 17 years. He recently became a citizen and I attended the ceremony. I kinda feel bad that I brought him here back then. But , at least he AND my daughter can go back someday, if needed.
The USA has never reflected progressive values. This election was a rejection of BLM, Occupy, Me Too & DEI. The majority of Americans have never been progressive. Every step towards progress has been resisted and the majority aggrieved.
Well the voters on our behalf let the cult half of the country knock us down. Though that still doesn't sit well. I guess we just have to stay hyper vigilant.
If it’s me and there’s the slightest chance I’d get swept up and dumped into a concentration camp for deportation, I’m going home and finishing my degree at a nice local college.
Might want to warn them that unless they are white passing there is no guarantee of their safety once they get here once the serial sexual predator takes over the highest office in the land.
Even in 2019 @ a public university all BIPOC tuition paying students were advised they weren’t safe on campus
All that foreign student money will be going elsewhere because, even if the students get into the country in time, they then effectively become prisoners who cannot leave the country for fear of the more than usual immigration nastiness (I say that as a white Irish retired police officer).
I mention my background because, when I used to visit the states I had the easiest possible ride through the process and it was still a dehumanising and nasty process administered in many cases by toxic officers over-enamoured with themselves and the power granted to them.
You want to see social unraveling quickly…have them go on campus and detain or remove foreign students. Students at all colleges will burn this country down.
Hmm seems like a great way to inspire higher education in this country, amirite? Look, even if nothing happens (and lots probably will), as usual, the damage here is done. They have every institution shaking in their boots. They're winning the war on the mind no matter what. Fascism sucks.
Or! Or, hear me out, don’t try going to school in a budding dictatorship? These Ivy League institutions are just as responsible for our predicament as corporate interests and evangelicals. Let them miss out on those juicy tuitions.
And the best and brightest when they graduate won’t be in the US. It’s always galling when some poorly educated MAGA moron is bitching about people much smarter and more productive than they are being bad for this country
Parents of these students should probably reconsider sending their kids to the US for University. I mean once they are in they will be subjected to harassment by MAGA goons. My daughter was scheduled to attend UTA but we have canceled that and she is attending University here in Germany.
And the kicker is that public universities in Germany, are FREE to anyone!
That's why I decided to use my dual Australian/Dutch citizenship, to get my son, dual citizenship as well.
He can work and study anywhere within the EU, without needing a visa. Free education should be available to everyone.
Exactly! People are preparing for a dictator. I guess they figure he will get away with everything because no one has been able to stop his criminality.
Ugh 😩 this is awful just awful. I have a friend who joined the military to get citizenship he is currently deployed to Africa but he is afraid to come back home WTF? He has sworn he would lay down his life for THIS country and he is afraid.
I have a dear friend in Greece who got her degree in America on a Fulbright scholarship. She wanted her daughter to do the same, until the 2016 election. I just apologized that their homeland will be forced to deal with the likes of Kimberly Guilfoil.
Why would anyone tell them to come back?! Tell them to flee! Get the fuck out of here! Nobody fled TOWARD Nazi Germany in the late 20s and early 30s except, you know, Nazis and people who couldn't get out.
This is nuts. What would happen if US students couldn't travel to other countries for their education? I know a lot of students come from Africa, India, Asia, and the Middle East, but some come from Europe. What if Europe banned US students?
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Apparently this is the new America
Exactly that. They stayed.
I just joined a local group to support incoming students from street/transit harassment.
Yes. More voters voted for the dump in Mass than ever before. Boston, we have a problem. We have been infiltrated.
Boycott every aspect of everything American for 4 years.Crash the #Trumpeconomy right out the gate.
#HoldTheLine Indeed.
We’ll need military skill sets to protect the vulnerable.
No one can be educated but the top 1% in the white nationalists' world.
We then moved up some purchases we knew we needed in the next 6-12 months. Don't want to support the idiot's economy in any way as well as avoiding tariffs.
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I know the answers to that are likely varied and complex, but you know the affected students have got to be asking themselves if it's worth the risk to re-enter the country.
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No one really knows WHAT will happen...
Musk purchasing Twitter (with Saudi Prince help) was far worse than Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal.
Clearly the same game played, but no apparent "scandal" when purchasing the Personal Identifiable Information for the purpose of overthrowing a government.
Because they got a full scholarship, room & board?
Because their GF/BF is an American?
to imagine just a few reasons, I'm sure there are many more...
23/24 there were 6700 foreign students, if half of them stay away:
Total damage 268m
Yes, numbers rounded but the impact will be visible.
(source: https://Harvard.edu)
Fucking amateurs.
Globally to regress. It’s like we’re entering Idiocracy 2.0. Education scares the right. Educated people don’t vote for them. They need stupid to thrive. They need fear.
I promise.
it's obscene
There wouldn't be an American tech sector without foreign students.
Period.
Wonder if Susan Collins was there?
Netenyahu, specifically.
I think we might find a parallel to the 1930s there, too.
Zionists and Nazis shared a dream of a Europe that had no Jews in it.
I think Netenyahu is still praying the Diaspora comes home; to his rule.
I’m not gonna leave like, ever, until I get my degree
Remember to remain NON-VIOLENT.
Use your voice and your pen.
Teach the girls how to fight dirty. (YBMC)
Teach boys to respect/protect women.
There is no time to lose! Start NOW.
They don't give a shit about those people.
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Even in 2019 @ a public university all BIPOC tuition paying students were advised they weren’t safe on campus
The New Old Crazy.
Coming our way Jan 20.
That's why I decided to use my dual Australian/Dutch citizenship, to get my son, dual citizenship as well.
He can work and study anywhere within the EU, without needing a visa. Free education should be available to everyone.
They want them to get to campus so they can collect the tuition, dummy. They don’t want to have students not show up and then not pay tuition.
American colleges are the only product that has gotten more expensive while simultaneously becoming less valuable.
Why?!
This in not normal, nor is it something the US does.
I remember the chaos surrounding his first travel ban which affected greek card holders.
https://www.vox.com/2017/1/28/14425150/green-card-ban-muslim-tru