As I live into the eu, we will pick it up it will.mean boots on the ground, which will lead to a bigger war ... thank dumpster and jd for the bigger war, which will then turn in to world war 3
Part of the plan. Either Zelensky could sit quietly and listen to his country be debased with lies, or they could cut aid out outright. Heads they won, tails he lost.
The fact they’re going to pull all aid from Ukraine while trying to be subtle & do it in phases proves they know it’s wrong & are hoping the American people won’t notice while the legacy media gives them a hall pass. All in accordance with our enemy, Russia.
Not that this applies but… any reasonably competent administration (GOP or DFL) would have choreographed this visit to put the admin in the best possible light. Seems clear they don’t give a Sh!t about that or what’s best for world democracy. All seems to add up to what is best for daddy Putin.
It’s not over the argument, it’s over the refusal to sign the deal. Short of bombing Kyiv himself, this is how Trump makes them suffer something worse than what they are already suffering, which he is what he has threatened to do for weeks.
Trump is obsessed with the minerals deal because he wants to secure something of value before ceding Ukraine to Putin. If Zelensky signs then yes, Trump will make sure that Ukraine isn't utterly flattened (but that's it). Otherwise, he won't even do that.
That traitor surrendered to Putin when they gave him a face to face meeting. The whole purpose of the invasion was to get a seat at a table with the US, on equal footing. They got that. Now they’re going to get to work breaking NATO and carving up Europe.
Vance had that "disrespect in the Oval Office" line ready. It simply makes no sense at all where he used it, but he had to use it before the spray ended so he picked that moment to pretend he was offended on our behalf.
Have we reached the point where the news doesn't even question the authority of the president to hold funds authorized by Congress for a given purpose?
Exactly. This was ALWAYS the plan. If Zelenskyy had somehow reduced himself to signing that despicable deal, they would have done a Darth Vader "I have altered the deal."
The mineral deal was akin to the Hapsburg demands of Serbia in 1914; it was a naked setup of a pretext.
1) It is NOT a peace process when one of the combatants is not involved in negotiations.
2) It is not a peace process when one side gets EVERYTHING that the war was meant to accomplish. That is capitulation.
3) Zelensky should have punched Vance in his smarmy face.
You mean money already allocated by Congress? Again this is horse shit framing and a power grab by the executive to unilaterally freeze money. All of this is illegal.
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Direct orders from Putin.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2025/02/24/three-years-of-russia-s-full-scale-invasion-and-war-of-aggression-against-ukraine-eu-adopts-its-16th-package-of-economic-and-individual-measures/
The mineral deal was akin to the Hapsburg demands of Serbia in 1914; it was a naked setup of a pretext.
2) It is not a peace process when one side gets EVERYTHING that the war was meant to accomplish. That is capitulation.
3) Zelensky should have punched Vance in his smarmy face.
You including Zelenskyy in that?