Somehow missed this 2022 UK paper exploring responses to radical right parties (RRP) and whether accommodation - i.e. "beat" them by repeating a version of their tale actually worked electorally. Short version: Nope. www.cambridge.org/core/journal... - ThreadSky

anatosaurus.bsky.social • 8 days ago

Somehow missed this 2022 UK paper exploring responses to radical right parties (RRP) and whether accommodation - i.e. "beat" them by repeating a version of their tale actually worked electorally.

Short version: Nope.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-science-research-and-methods/article/does-accommodation-work-mainstream-party-strategies-and-the-success-of-radical-right-parties/5C3476FCD26B188C7399ADD920D71770

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jamph.bsky.social•8 days ago

A lot of that studies' data predates the rise of social media and the collapse of legacy media. But the only major counterexample I can think of is the Danish Social Democrats going hard on anti-immigration and growing considerably afterwards.

davidmouritsen.bsky.social•8 days ago

It would be lovely if 47 copies of this paper were promptly delivered to the US Senate.

phillyhart4.bsky.social•5 days ago

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americancrisis.bsky.social•8 days ago

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astill73.bsky.social•8 days ago

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tauriel1.bsky.social•8 days ago

But still-chancelor Scholz said he "feels" he could draw AfD voters to his party by repeating AfD topics.
Shouldn't his feeling be worth more than a study (or dozens of studies)?

dontputmarbles.bsky.social•8 days ago

Governing by vibes

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

Looking at European elections 1976-2017, "we find neither general nor conditional support for the claim that accommodative strategies significantly reduce support for the radical right."

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

"To the contrary, voters are on average more likely to defect to the radical right when mainstream parties adopt anti-immigration positions, a pattern that has been particularly pronounced for established RRPs."

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

"Overall, our findings suggest that positional accommodation is fruitless in the best case, and can be detrimental in the worst case."

jamesrobichaux.bsky.social•6 days ago

"positional accommodation"!!!

That's the name for that practice!!!

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

"Implications of our study are, however, not only limited to academic debate but also challenge the widely held belief in today's political debate that the adoption of more authoritarian-nationalist and anti-immigration positions by mainstream parties would curb the success of the radical right."

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

"Even tho overall net effect statistically indistinguishable from 0, findings show rightward shifts on immigration result in significantly greater gains for RRPs & suggest mainstream parties move toward rad. right's core issue positions risk losing more voters to rad. right than they win in return."

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

To be sure, what's tested real multi-party systems can't be directly applied to our duopoly. But, research design looked at switching to/from ALL mainstream parties in aggregate to/from radical right ones within a given election - arguably similar to all Dem votes vs all Rep ones.

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

As I've argued eleventy-billion times: You cannot beat your opposition by repeating your opposition. This both dissuades your base from voting, let alone acting as your "choir," it raises saliency of oppo's desired debate.

leftinfighter.bsky.social•8 days ago

Setting aside the morality of Democrats ceding issues like immigration to GOP, from a pure Branding 101 angle it won't work.

Using the metaphor of free market competition, you can't win being second-to-market in providing what the GOP already offers, you'll always be seen as the inferior knockoff.

voraciousarchivist.bsky.social•8 days ago

Especially when to goes against the brand. No oneis going to buy Lays making something healthy

markfreed.bsky.social•7 days ago

They don’t get that Reform want to privatise the NHS. Idiots.

maxp94.bsky.social•7 days ago

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crobertbuchanan.bsky.social•8 days ago

In Colorado, we had a Democratic rep Yadira Caraveo who, out of fear of losing her first reelection campaign, swerved hard right on immigration and ended up losing a seat that should’ve been held by Democrats.

Why vote for Republican Light when you can have the real thing?

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yup. If you tell voters to make their selection (including whether to vote at all) on basis of who is bigger asshole, Republicans will win every time. Despite Dems best efforts.

minvisible.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is why Newsom sitting down with and legitimizing Bannon, etc. is so dangerous. It's going to convince far many more NPP or low-propensity, low-info voters to show up and vote for the Bannon-backed candidate in 2026 governor's race.

biaisaweda.bsky.social•7 days ago

What should Dems do? Incorporate a stronger hate message?

heronofoblivion.bsky.social•8 days ago

The examples of Denmark and Gernany show the opposite in Denmark, a right-populist party peaked at 21% in 2015, now competing for 4-5% with another party, after the Social Democratic party adopted a firm policy on migration (not anti-migraton, mind you).

heronofoblivion.bsky.social•8 days ago

By contrast, the German AfD went from populist to extremist during a period where the responsible parties were all dedicated to Merkel's pro-migration policy.

anatosaurus.bsky.social•8 days ago

Valid but arguably complex. Danish case, yes moderated on migration BUT over-riding shift was authentic show-not-tell pro working class policies. Most recent German election, *real* left party, Die Linke, more than doubled seats. Center hollowed. DL used race-class messaging. https://the.ink/p/tiktok-door-knock

heronofoblivion.bsky.social•6 days ago

...and the success of the left will have absolutely no consequences, as always with these temporary bubbles

heronofoblivion.bsky.social•8 days ago

Regarding Denmark, the point is that a strict immigration policy IS authentic working class policy. At any case, your nain hypothesis proved wrong here. As for Germany, you simply evaded those years I was referring to, where AfD was radicalized and the center parties...

snabbkassa.bsky.social•7 days ago

I don't think it's odd that voters think that one terror attack is one too many, and that 12 is far too many.

thesarahrose.bsky.social•7 days ago

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criminaljustish.bsky.social•8 days ago

So Gavin Newsom embracing anti-trans nonsense will do as much good as Harris and Biden running to their right did? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say. If only the Dems would stop repeating the same failed experiment...

wonkish.bsky.social•6 days ago

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alisonaf.bsky.social•8 days ago

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alanwayman.bsky.social•7 days ago

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beccanalia.bsky.social•8 days ago

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silver-guillotine.itch.io•8 days ago

Thanks for highlighting

kevincarson1.bsky.social•8 days ago

It's just common sense. A person who finds Nazi rhetoric appealing is going to vote for someone who proudly and apologetically spouts it, not someone who's awkwardly pushing a watered-down version of it.

valoisdubins.bsky.social•8 days ago

🔖 pandering to far right study

agalpa.bsky.social•7 days ago

Thanks for the info !

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