If they can seize it, this is a massive opportunity for Europe to take a huge lead over the US in science and technology. - ThreadSky

tracinski.bsky.social • 2 days ago

If they can seize it, this is a massive opportunity for Europe to take a huge lead over the US in science and technology.

Reposted from Jen Schradie

Standing room only crowd in Paris discussing what French scholars can do to support American researchers #StandUpForScience

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ggnomegar.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump is killing us
USA students need help
Fired teachers k-8 in front of students today in Wisconsin
IEP students left in room
Students aren’t able to eat meals hardly enough beans and rice
I’m there!!!!!!!

cjbush88.bsky.social•1 day ago

I mean, do they have any guillotines leftover?

kimdeclaire.bsky.social•1 day ago

Europe and Mexico are already far ahead

mornba.bsky.social•1 day ago

And a lead over everything else worth leading in.

mmchol.bsky.social•1 day ago

I want SOMEBODY to do science and technology.

sensei208.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thank you France.

queenief.bsky.social•1 day ago

All the smart young people want to leave the US

tracinski.bsky.social•1 day ago

Small sample size, but my son says several of his classmates are deciding to go to Canadian universities.

horthnert.bsky.social•1 day ago

We've already ceded green tech to China, might as well let Europe take the rest.

lilienfeld1.bsky.social•2 days ago

Europe lacks the infrastructure to do it. The only ones who can would be the Chinese. But it's a closed society in China, and that works against the idea of seizing this initiative.

marciamoments.bsky.social•1 day ago

I hope they do! America is learning a very hard lesson right now.

janciebe.bsky.social•2 days ago

Every country should be lining up to hire the scientists, FBI agents, tech people etc. that have been fired. I imagine they would be very loyal to whoever lets them work on their projects again.

shawnc1959.bsky.social•2 days ago

And there are plenty of other people doing similar work outside the fed govt but would prefer not to live under a repressive authoritarian regime.

tonyhig67.bsky.social•2 days ago

Our former allies should actively recruit our academics and scientists our current Idiocracy has no use for.

miak06.bsky.social•2 days ago

That is brilliant!!!

salsantamaura.bsky.social•2 days ago

What can they do? Import as many of them as possible. With subsidies, not tariffs. 🙂

elmobronowski.bsky.social•2 days ago

That’s what I’m thinking. As sad as it is, the Trump administration together with the European defense buildup is an opportunity for Europe to import American scientists as America did to Europe around World War II.

lmfree.bsky.social•2 days ago

Under the Trump regime, America will become less educated and they think this is good.

tracinski.bsky.social•2 days ago

The whole thing is a revolt against the modern world.

lmfree.bsky.social•1 day ago

To what end?

bocabiscotti.bsky.social•1 day ago

at what point will countries such as the EU, MX, CA, NZ, AU, UK allow political asylum for Americans? My hunch would be that they dont want to be so open about that — More of a "come be a digital nomad and let's talk about it on a case by case basis" sorta deal.

tracinski.bsky.social•1 day ago

And the food is better.

tracinski.bsky.social•2 days ago

But what Europe really needs is to improve and streamline their start-up culture and legal structures, so they can turn that science into technology and growth.

dimitriana.bsky.social•1 day ago

The irony here is the anti-science is lead by the start-ups of the Silicon Valley bros., as the US jumped ahead because of them, & they now support the destruction of our social culture.

jim0novak.bsky.social•1 day ago

There are quite a number of Americans prepared to relocate (money in hand) if tempted by the right welcoming hand.

Many a stiffled European entrepreneur fled to America; Europe could do worse than to welcome them back.

baylissfx.bsky.social•1 day ago

Make Europe the uncorrupted knowledgebase of the world. This will bring the prosperity people are talking about. No authoritarian country has innovative success! Because they are not free!!!

jonesro.bsky.social•2 days ago

I hope that our skilled researchers find homes in countries who will appreciate and reward their work.

icarusrising23.bsky.social•1 day ago

They're be stupid not to

soapboxblue.bsky.social•1 day ago

Give them political asylum.. 🤔

michelereneaellen.bsky.social•2 days ago

Viva La France
Our Country is in dire straits the MAGA party need lessons
European people need to help themselves & show MAGA
how screwed up they are!!

britintheus.bsky.social•1 day ago

Being the researchers to Europe … the US have stolen countless scientists & researchers over the years - bring their knowledge & research to people who actually believe in science

rosemaryd52.bsky.social•2 days ago

Who needs science when we have MAGA.

zoesamuel.bsky.social•1 day ago

Amen. Introduce a "screwed-over American scientist" visa immediately and give them a grant and a year's residency in one of those empty Tuscan villages.

tracinski.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is there a program to bring opinion writers to Tuscany? Just asking.

zoesamuel.bsky.social•1 day ago

Funnily enough, I think this one is pretty agnostic about what you do for a living:
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/06/24/under-the-tuscan-sun-this-italian-region-will-pay-you-30000-to-move-there

unraveled5.bsky.social•2 days ago

And live in France? Sign me up!

sundiego2015.bsky.social•1 day ago

It is tragic that RFK Jr. et al. will prevent the development of an effective form on pancreatic cancer, which is using mRNA technology.

sundiego2015.bsky.social•1 day ago

At the rate things are going, by the end of the next four years Americans may need to go to Canada, Mexico, and the EU for vaccines and cancer treatment...

lejanaysola.bsky.social•1 day ago

Bring them over to Europe! Isn't that what made the post-30s USA great,the mass European emigration of scientists and artists?

ggl25.bsky.social•2 days ago

Thx Trump for the brain drain

getresilient.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well, all kinds of science. Including anthropology, psychology, sociology, economics...

uscitizen7777.bsky.social•2 days ago

Wonderful!!!~!!@

twwf-bsky.bsky.social•2 days ago

I mean, there's about to be a lot of top level scientist in need of work and labs and resources, so if they play their cards right...

grove.cx•2 days ago

MEGA (for real, not the weak shit we have in the US. actually great!)

morriganmd.bsky.social•2 days ago

Fast track visas to Europe for top tier researchers and their immediate families and the brain drain would feel like brain freeze here.

alexis8.bsky.social•1 day ago

I hope they at least try!

algrhythm.bsky.social•1 day ago

This, plus military, since the US is choosing economic ruin over prosperity.

jrwzeta.bsky.social•1 day ago

And yet having a stand up room only meeting to discuss how European scientists can support our researchers makes me grateful & emotional!

audreygv.bsky.social•2 days ago

This gives me hope.

thinxdinx.bsky.social•1 day ago

And everything else. America is here for the taking

ollie209.bsky.social•2 days ago

During Trump 1, that was my thought: Like when Galileo had theories about the Earth see revolving around the Sun; Church said "Re-think that or be punished!" So he re-canted, and Science left Renaissance Italy from that moment 🤔

michalyoudoing.bsky.social•16 hours ago

Actually, there was no empirical evidence of Earth's motion till Bradley aberration-1727.

The Tychonic model held the scientific consensus at the time.

The Inquisition consulted astronomers in 1616 & decided Heliocentrism should be held as a hypothesis.

https://bsky.app/profile/michalyoudoing.bsky.social/post/3lczl6r56bc2n

michalyoudoing.bsky.social•16 hours ago

And science continued to flourish for a long time afterwards in the Papal States and then Italy, despite foreign courts such as the French and Russian monarchies offering better salaries to draw Italian scientific superstars to their countries.

joanaduartesilva.bsky.social•2 days ago

We are already ahead, we have good researchers and scientists and we are careful about who we elect for our governments. And when they are no good, we kick them out.

nmfa17.bsky.social•1 day ago

And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

rworthen.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yup! China as well.

tracinski.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m hoping not. And expats have been leaving China in droves because Xi is worse than Trump.

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