Waltz saying he's gonna get Elon Musk to find out how Goldberg hacked his phone is, I think, emblematic of an underreported dynamic: These people all believe that computers are magic, and that they have the Wizard-King on their side this time. - ThreadSky

goldwagnathan.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Waltz saying he's gonna get Elon Musk to find out how Goldberg hacked his phone is, I think, emblematic of an underreported dynamic:

These people all believe that computers are magic, and that they have the Wizard-King on their side this time.

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dontwakeupghost.bsky.social•3 days ago

No. They understand that the public is generally stupid and too busy to pay attention to this story once it gets into the weeds. Like literally every other story with these people. None of it ever matters. Not enough anyway.

srdogs.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yes, almost by definition MAGA are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, & have long relied on Rt Wing media (social or broadcast) talking heads to tell them what they should think, what their opinions are and what they should be angry about. Believing in a world as they wish it was, not how it is

srdogs.bsky.social•3 days ago

Basic intellectual laziness, a lack of critical thinking (or applying it to their political fantasy world), resulting in a profound ignorance about reality & an almost eager acceptance of misinformation, propaganda, & conspiratorial thinking.

So they buy into the loudest charlatans like RFKjr & DJT

dontwakeupghost.bsky.social•3 days ago

This describes most liberals, and indeed most of our species. We are dumb, selfish, and addled by the effort to survive daily. Few of us have the time to pay attention, or the capacity to understand what we are seeing when we do. We are dumb animals. And this shit works for them. So rock n roll.

mistermeyer.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also underreported, though, is that they are terrified of what they believe Musk can do with his access to information. It's not just their ignorance, but also their complete lack of interest in finding out what is real.

jpgottlieb.bsky.social•3 days ago

Much more likely he's lying to cover his ass.

anineffablegrump.bsky.social•3 days ago

He knows where the series of tubes are

walterwrona.bsky.social•2 days ago

That is a crazy theory. And it would explain alot. Seriously.

Jokes on them because the Wizard-King is just as big a scammer as they are.

bumbojumbo666.bsky.social•3 days ago

It's all computer!

waldo42.bsky.social•3 days ago

He heard it on the internets

obamnacare.bsky.social•2 days ago

Tesler...

charlesdeguava.bsky.social•3 days ago

We are truly in the dying twilight of the Boomer

nutty.land•2 days ago

I regret to inform you that Zoomers also have no idea how computers work. This is also true of millennials and GenXers.

Nobody understands how computers work. Even people who have deep understanding at some layer have very fuzzy understanding at other important layers.

roland00.bsky.social•3 days ago

we truly live in an age of Marvels*

*me thinking about the Stan Lee thing and how people later had to do the back fill to make it all make sense, how the ordinary and truly god like sublime can exist in the same space

( I am laughing while writing this )

danhicks.bsky.social•3 days ago

One trick is that Elon himself doesn't know much about computers, also thinks they are magic

brewergnome.bsky.social•2 days ago

And that everyone else is like them, and won't look at a picture with "Mike Waltz has added you to this group" and assume that's how he got into the group

hamiltwan.bsky.social•3 days ago

Waltz before the military tribunal deciding if his fuckup rises to the level of treason: "everything's computer!"

goldwagnathan.bsky.social•3 days ago

See also, and I think this explains why they're willing to do things that seem politically suicidal: They think the algorithms can fix everything painlessly.

alefbetsoup.bsky.social•3 days ago

reminds me of this on reactionary modernism from @lioneltrolling.bsky.social

defuncteconomist.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hilarious considering DOGE is just naively feeding data into Grok and asking it what to do

unnamedwill.bsky.social•2 days ago

There's a more pathetic thing going on here.

It reminds me a lot of how many people risked their law licenses and freedom on Giuliani and Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell after the 2020 election because they believed they must have the proof of fraud they claimed they did.

shermanfan.bsky.social•3 days ago

algorithms are similar to the US approach to bombing - you can somehow do difficult things magically and easy from afar and not need to understand the complex dynamics that undergird them. This is part of why they love privatization too - companies make things simple by stripping out complexity

galalefey.bsky.social•3 days ago

They also don’t seem to believe in doublechecking their work.

shoutingboy.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think they all feel like “cutting is harder than growing, therefore we should cut too much now and later on we’ll come back and rehire where we need to, nbd”

galalefey.bsky.social•3 days ago

Carelessness is totally a waste reducer, right? /s

samusishere.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah, Trump pretty explicitly believes that the Dems hacked the 2020 election and Elon Musk personally counter hacked it because Trump et al are tech illiterate.

It's going to take a 2026 wipeout to get them to dump Musk unfortunately.

whrwlfthrwlf85v.bsky.social•3 days ago

Or, after 2026, Trump doubles down on Musk rather than admit a mistake, especially as long as Tesla stocks are artificially kept high.

whrwlfthrwlf85v.bsky.social•3 days ago

Sorry, I thought I took my tinfoil hat off a while ago. I’ll remedy that now.

psychadvocate.bsky.social•2 days ago

You never know, trump hasn’t started the firings yet. Elon just needs to really piss him off once

kevinriggle.bsky.social•2 days ago

*blinks*

_Why_ does Trump believe this?

conjurial.bsky.social•2 days ago

if he does, I'd say it's because he knows jack squat about computers and also because he's clearly in cognitive decline

conjurial.bsky.social•2 days ago

not having had much prior knowledge, much-reduced intelligence, conspiratorial worldview from the jump, narcissism that means he needs to explain losing 2020...

"everything's computer" would do nicely

kevinriggle.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well sure but I take that as given. What’s the specific story

conjurial.bsky.social•2 days ago

ah! I see I misread, you mean proof it's true

personally I think just speculation, but it would make sense of some things and doesn't posit an implausibly large conspiracy

samusishere.bsky.social•2 days ago

samusishere.bsky.social•2 days ago

I don't know how he ended up thinking this, but he pretty clearly has created a fantasy where he only lost in 2020 due to fraud and the Dems must not have been able to fraud in 2024 for some reason and... I guess he's decided Musk has to be the reason?

kevinriggle.bsky.social•2 days ago

OH. If Trump believes that Dems hacked the 2020 election and Musk hacked the 2024 election that _would_ explain some shit

kevinriggle.bsky.social•2 days ago

Because this would explain some things, eg why they haven’t fallen out yet

samusishere.bsky.social•2 days ago

Unclear!

kevinriggle.bsky.social•2 days ago

How did you come to this conclusion?

whirringsoftly.bsky.social•2 days ago

I saw it reasonably argued that any wide scale hack was unlikely (and thus Trump did actually win but that's another can of worms) since it's been demonstrated that Musk and his flying monkeys don't actually know what they're doing at all.

lizamazel.bsky.social•2 days ago

you can glom together disinformation, the highly exacerbated percentage of kazillionaire GOP donations of the already outsized impact of Citizens United, rampant voter suppression aided by gutting the VRA, gerrymandering (for Hosue) + the odd bomb threat, and already that gets you over the line

lizamazel.bsky.social•2 days ago

if Musk can just turn on Starlink to fix a vote, why's he throwing over one bajillion dollars at the WI Supreme Court race?

whirringsoftly.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yeah this person also made the point that the Trump campaign was just selling what enough people were buying and what that says about US voters.

lizamazel.bsky.social•2 days ago

and, too: we're low information and cynical/learned helplessness/apathetic/something; global pushback against incumbents; yadda

whirringsoftly.bsky.social•2 days ago

Oh it was @goldengateblond.bsky.social btw

goldengateblond.bsky.social•2 days ago

what was

scharlatanka.bsky.social•2 days ago

mithos343.bsky.social•3 days ago

Wait like

They actually think the Mega Genius Wizard Boy fantasy roleplay is real

oh no

morecorgis.bsky.social•3 days ago

*Technoking

richycurtis.bsky.social•3 days ago

Remember the story about Trump’s Papers?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/trump-s-human-printer-is-somehow-weirder-than-you-thought/ar-AA1zLHpz

ffswtf.bsky.social•3 days ago

I read an article that said people like Elon and Thiel and Yarvin believe that once AI becomes sentient it will magically solve all of humanity’s problems. The problem with this is they will destroy all of our systems to get to this “miracle”. They have nothing planned for when they are wrong.

bluedymoos.bsky.social•3 days ago

We certainly don't have tens of thousands of pages of speculative fiction warning about what happens when one builds the Torment Nexus.

What could go wrong? 🫠

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

They have no understanding of "garbage in, garbage out", even if its possible to make a sentient AI, its delusional to think itll magically be smarter and wiser than us when it gets all its information from the same flawed and biased information sphere as humans do and doesnt know truth from fiction

ffswtf.bsky.social•3 days ago

I concur. I don’t get the fantasy of an all powerful AI. AI is created and programmed by the same assholes who are limited by their human brains. It has all their biases. It has all our nonsensical data. We are not the smartest group of humans, currently.

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

Their excuse is generally some sort of exponential self improvement, which is a very specific tech delusion brought about buy the specific circumstances of the digital revolution of the last half a century or so. It completely ignores the fact that nothing in nature exponentially grows forever.

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

They are so myopic that they view the very unique circumstances in Silicon Valley as laws of nature. If tech is improving for them, and business is doing well for them, then surely it must be inevitable that tech will improve until it becomes god, and capitalism keeps making profit eternally.

ffswtf.bsky.social•2 days ago

Scary stuff.

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

A lot has been said about the right wing nature of these tech ideologies that give rise to ludicrous AI fantasies, but this in particular illustrates it quite well.

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

The idea that there's one Objective Political Truth of how to run a society and an all powerful being would by definition remake all society in service of it, by force if necessary, is just the logic of fascism.

invalidham.bsky.social•3 days ago

The AGI they fantasize about isn't just a stand-in for god, it's a totalitarian robot god that just so happens to share all their opinions.

jsweetli.bsky.social•3 days ago

I overheard a group of people marveling that Elon was able to find all this fraud quickly “because he’s using AI!”

amb-markab.bsky.social•3 days ago

omfg

saneenglish.bsky.social•3 days ago

Where is Barron, we need Barron

vovat.bsky.social•1 day ago

He's good at the cyber.

snowjob.bsky.social•3 days ago

*and* Elon thinks he's the Wizard King, instead of realizing he's the Great Value, Rage-Inducing Wizard of Oz

williameasley.bsky.social•3 days ago

Wonder how much of it is that they all believe computers are magic or that Trump believes computers are magic and that Elon knows the most about that magic so that is just the company line

tomscud.bsky.social•3 days ago

He’s like Jared except even better at resetting the vcr

bendeebendee.bsky.social•3 days ago

please it is a wednesday and too early for day-drinking my liver cannot handle (your correct analysis of) the news

shrimpmeatmom.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m not convinced Elon doesn’t ALSO believe computers are magic and he is the wizard-king.

shrimpmeatmom.bsky.social•2 days ago

Unironically

milol22.bsky.social•2 days ago

He definitely most likely knows more about computer magic than anyone alive

alwaysadorecats.bsky.social•2 days ago

I mean, he very literally believes the universe is a simulation and that other people aren’t real.

oldhoundderby.bsky.social•3 days ago

Elon insists that his correct title be used! He’s the Technoking!😂

altidag.bsky.social•3 days ago

'Jeffrey' probably followed 'JD' on his Contacts list in Signal.

dethpuck.bsky.social•3 days ago

Dude should just look in the mirror. It would be faster or as doge would say efficient.

rabidhatchet.bsky.social•3 days ago

Sooo they're too scared to talk with the in-house NSA?

dzay-by-day.bsky.social•2 days ago

Any experienced IT person will tell them the same thing on how it happens - it was PBKAC

danielwbrody.bsky.social•3 days ago

Meanwhile Elon’s real talent is office politics not computer science

teabbott.bsky.social•3 days ago

The wizard king, the king, and God. Talk about your trifecta.

snufkindisiciple.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think your claim is probably correct, and I hate that so much...

trobs.bsky.social•3 days ago

And what's worse. They believe everyone is as incompetent as they are.

musex1.bsky.social•2 days ago

when Grampa calls tech support...

phictitious.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think Trump thinks Musk hacked the '24 election in his favor, which would explain why Musk has gotten to effectively run the country even though most other Trump lackeys would've gotten canned ages ago.

nih-llamas.bsky.social•3 days ago

Giuliani Security Partners has already cracked the case:

https://bsky.app/profile/nih-llamas.bsky.social/post/3llawqhkcd22r

sababausa.bsky.social•3 days ago

It’s infected FedSoc too

Bunch of doofus judges think they can ask Grok what the original public meaning of “jurisdiction thereof” is and get a wholly unbiased conclusive answer that removes the human element from judging

https://bsky.app/profile/nateraymond.bsky.social/post/3kp3okk4vpp2i

metatheory.bsky.social•3 days ago

Elmo is probably busy figuring out how he can create an encrypted app to replace Signal for the White House in addition to his installation of Starlink.

jakehalloran.bsky.social•3 days ago

during Trump 1 as part of the NSC tape ukraine call scandal there was a sub scandal of the white house IT and cyber sec staff trying to shout to anyone who would listen that no one in the white house knew what a computer was or how the network functioned but it just never broke through lol

whirringsoftly.bsky.social•2 days ago

See Trump having boxes and boxes of stolen documents that could all fitting a USB key.

nearlytoolate.bsky.social•3 days ago

‘We have the best tech minds figuring out how I added this guy by mistake’

grungehamster.bsky.social•3 days ago

Remember that time Rudy Giuliani, cybersecurity adviser to the first Trump administration, accidentally posted a hyperlink and accused Twitter of hacking his account to make the link go to the website someone made in response to the typo?

accidentalflyer.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pretty sure Mike Waltz knew he's lying. He added Jeffrey Goldberg. I use Signal too. That's the only way it can happen. (Pretty good app. Switched to Signal because of Hong Kong pro-democracy protests back then and WhatsApp no longer secure, Mark Zuckerberg a Xi Jinping worshipper.)

eltorosolo.bsky.social•3 days ago

Well, or they think their voters do (probably correctly).

peterthepig.bsky.social•2 days ago

he'll get a Ketamine high and declare that i)it's all the fault of Zelensky for not saying the incriminating evidence WAS on Hunter Biden's laptop after all ii)Waltz was luring Goldburg into the group only to incriminate him for not doing an expose of i) and iii)that the woke mind-virus nixed Waltz

jb-goodbody.bsky.social•2 days ago

I could go downtown, close my eyes, throw a rock, and hit a random small to mid-sized company and their cyber security team or third party security vender could tell me what happened and how to avoid it.

ladynightshade.bsky.social•3 days ago

The Wizard-King could report back "the issue was an outdated flibbertigibbet, I have updated it and now you are secure" and everyone would just nod along "oh thank you Wizard-King, how much do I owe you?"

horseknuckler.bsky.social•3 days ago

Musk as mystical soothsayer Rasputin, calmly petting a laptop next to Trump's head as it plays a pirated version of the Cats soundtrack

thermostat.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also under reported how that is actually worse. If a reporter can hack your communication platform you are, as they say, cooked.

thermostat.bsky.social•3 days ago

stemthebleeding.bsky.social•3 days ago

mpdeejay.bsky.social•3 days ago

With enough blinkenlights you could Mechanical Turk your way into getting these guys to do anything you wanted.

mgocoder.bsky.social•3 days ago

Elon doesn't know jack shit about cyber security.

He just says a bunch of big words and pretends he's an expert.

jimprall.bsky.social•3 days ago

This 👆

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