“The important thing is how to react..I rolled up my sleeves and picked up the phone” Prime Minister Keir Starmer - ThreadSky

peterstefanovic.bsky.social • 7 days ago

“The important thing is how to react..I rolled up my sleeves and picked up the phone”
Prime Minister Keir Starmer

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coopelaine.bsky.social•7 days ago

Grown ups in charge in the UK. Sadly not in the USA

semaleena.bsky.social•7 days ago

Rolled up my sleeves, he’s loving this 🤦🏻‍♀️

birdsongafternoon.bsky.social•7 days ago

It was a brilliant move. Have to wonder if Trump and gang will be terribly annoyed, it really shows him up for Pro Russian man baby he really is.

balmachreuchie.bsky.social•7 days ago

inspiring, isn't it.

paulartwork.bsky.social•7 days ago

Thank God this man is in power at this time and not Johnson or Truss.

se13ed.bsky.social•7 days ago

The odd thing is that I suspect Johnson would have acted in much the same way (though to be fair to Starmer I think Johnson would have been more credulous about Trump's motivations)

rockinchimp.bsky.social•7 days ago

Yeah, love having a different party in power who is just as racist and transphobic as the last lot... Feels great ☺️

issmith.bsky.social•7 days ago

🙏

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Respect for what he said there even if I personally wanted a different reaction. We can't forget that two days earlier he had called Zelenskyy a dictator!

This isn't gonna be easy to achieve because it's plainly obvious that Trump is in Putin's pocket.

fritzbischoff.bsky.social•7 days ago

You're factually correct; just that Trump is determined to appease Putin amd the MAGA mob —even if it means handing over large parts of Ukraine to Russia. He is willing to weaken Ukraine to the point where it becomes an easy target for the next attack. Nothing will dissuade Trump from this course.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Zelenskyy and Ukraine don't have to hand over anything to Russia. Doing that would be he hardest hit to Europe since that which instigated WWII. Apathy on that would mean serious outcomes in the future whilst Putin and Russia rearm and reform their economy.

I'm a nobody, I'm sure Europe understands

fritzbischoff.bsky.social•7 days ago

I get your point. Perhaps you find any occasion where Trump gave in to reason and (!) kept his word when he wasn't forced to do so?

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Well during his first tenure he had to on many occasions because he hadn't formed an SS-type structure around him like this time around. But even here we're seeing how they're managing to turn what he wants on its head on domestic terms. Pressure will count because it's the US imo. (I hope)

fritzbischoff.bsky.social•7 days ago

True, Trump is more firmly in the saddle than ever. Anyway, if we can profile him, then Starmer is certainly capable of understanding what he's up against. I just need to override my ingrained scepticism and be a bit more optimistic.

fritzbischoff.bsky.social•7 days ago

Let's hope Starmer can apply the charm & pressure approach on Trump.

denbelblack.bsky.social•7 days ago

You got it down pretty good.

fritzbischoff.bsky.social•7 days ago

The sooner Starmer accepts this, the sooner we'll see results. Of course, he can keep appeasing Trump à la Chamberlain—until it's too late.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

The long term goal (however impossible it may seem) is to get Trump out of Putin’s pocket.
It may not be easy but ultimately that has to be the LT aim.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Pure fantasy! We're talking 'wishing' here and Genies residing in magic lamps don't exist.

If we follow Trump's timeline meticulously, that's a non starter.

What the long game would certainly entail is putting global and domestic pressure on Trump's administration so as to push through 4 years.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

You may consider it pure fantasy.It’s better than doing nothing.Next let Putin have what he wants to minimise casualties?
No need to follow Trump to understand what an imbecile he is. But the aim has to be to get him out of Putin’s pocket.If you’d rather sit by-just as well you’re not a politician.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

We can't forget things that are important

blytheroad.bsky.social•7 days ago

I wondered if the long term goal was more to buy time for Zelenskyy and Ukraine, time for every supportive nation to get its act together and jointly help to build a shield, ready for the day when America detaches from Europe and when Putin next breaks his word…

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Time only serves Russia (Putin). Whatever is to be done, has to be executed and achieved asap. Russia is on its knees, hence why his puppet in the White House is having hissy fits in the Oval Office for the world to witness.

blytheroad.bsky.social•7 days ago

I see your point. You are right about Putin on his knees. Which is why Russia was delighted by that horrific Oval Office presser. But as we cannot rely on US support for Ukraine, and rebuilding our defences in Europe will take time, then stalling tactics would seem useful. That’s all I’m saying.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

We can force Trump to defend Ukraine! Watch this space... 😉

He can't have it all the way he wants.

d-moore.bsky.social•7 days ago

Russia have kept the receipts, Trump owes Putin his freedom. Can't see him ever getting out of it..

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is what I said about following Trump's timeline meticulously. There's that and much much much more going back decades.

d-moore.bsky.social•7 days ago

The White House is now full of pro-Russians, Tulsi Gabbard as head of intelligence.
Even if Trump spends 90% of his time on the golf course, they're all working in Putin's favour.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

All the same, pressure can force Trump to comply. He hasn't got it easy. The US has a population, the US also has a political landscape. Sometimes in life even if you have all the power you want, you can't implement it. That's the strategy to assemble and execute right now.

d-moore.bsky.social•7 days ago

Totally agree it's up to the people to organise. Can't see them holding a free & fair election with Vance/Musk in there

d-moore.bsky.social•7 days ago

..& then there's this guy

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

Hence what I said on paying attention. Sometimes we make the mistake of letting hope and words of the day enlighten our day and in reality it's all just a simple placebo.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

Who knows?
But the effort has to be made.

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

The only efforts that have to be made are things like these. It's PEOPLE who changed the direction of history. Not politicians!

It will be the people again.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

* a LT aim.

hughster.bsky.social•7 days ago

Easier said than done. Under Trump 1.0 it was easier as he was still surrounded by advisors who could help talk him round. But this time he's surrounded by filth like Vance and Musk who will reinforce the message after every foreign meeting (or even during them as in Zelensky's case).

castrogacio.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is definitely true. It won't be easy! But Americans can rise, Europe WILL rise and having the international community (most of it) on your case won't be easy for the Trump mob to ignore.

Let's see!

The important factor is for Europe to get it right now. The lethargy has come to an end.

rockinchimp.bsky.social•7 days ago

Why do you need to roll up your sleeves to use a phone?

anniepnw.bsky.social•7 days ago

Can't trust Trump. Best to figure it out without him in the equation.

manden.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is how to behave in public office rather than that orange man baby.

geraint.bsky.social•7 days ago

@lethalityjane.bsky.social Are Americans aware what there President and Vice President are doing to the US reputation right now ?

levi3d.bsky.social•7 days ago

I hate it when my stupid bloody sleeves prevent me using a phone too.

fleetwood25.bsky.social•7 days ago

A true and proper leader and Prime Minister. A grown up adult finally running our country. #TopTierKeir

wendycp.bsky.social•7 days ago

She is aggressive is that really necessary ? It’s not just her it’s all the male & female press pack they think they are the news makers instead the people they are interviewing. Time for the public to tell the media who quote us all the time that we don’t like rudeness

kfpm.bsky.social•7 days ago

I think in this instance I'd appreciate an emotional response, not a calculated one.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

It’s an emotional scenario as it is. A logical response is the best way forward, the argument against one’s actions from either side can easily be rebuffed with logic.

kfpm.bsky.social•7 days ago

The best way forward for whom? As had as I can tell, Zelenskyy is going to be persuaded to crawl to Trump and beg to sign away access to all the rare earth minerals for nothing in return. The logical response from UK would be to do that. It's not *right*.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

Where is Zelenskyy being persuaded to go crawling to Trump? £2.3bn is hardly being persuaded to do that. You have the EU on top of that.
Why is sign off the minerals to Russia “logical”? It’s not theirs! They are the invaders.

kfpm.bsky.social•7 days ago

He will be. What's the alternative? If USA not providing security guarantees, and Trump (as suggested) is stopping flow of arms/munitions to Ukraine, then the £2.3bn will buy arms etc elsewhere. Of course it's not theirs. Nothing about this is *right*, but Ukraine needs to buy time

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

“He will be”? By whom?
“What’s the alternative”? Eh? He defends & fights for his country. The £2.3bn will buy arms.
Of course it needs time - which is half of diplomacy- the other half getting proper LT peace.
What a strange conversation.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

marple.substack.com•7 days ago

Tough at the top!

rabaldor.bsky.social•7 days ago

I hope Starmer isn’t deluding himself how important or not (!) the UK is to the USA these days…

bossybritches22.bsky.social•7 days ago

That's not the issue, ANY country that doesn't defend it's close neighbour when invaded by Russia is foolish.

rabaldor.bsky.social•7 days ago

Was responding to his comment re being a bridge… And yes of course we must stand in support of UA

sarniejewell.bsky.social•7 days ago

If the UK isn't important, why were Putin and Trump so keen to see it leave the EU.

rabaldor.bsky.social•7 days ago

Hope you’re right

kevr.bsky.social•7 days ago

Starmer is growing into the roll. He's so much better than any of the previous Tory batch. Just maybe he'll turn things round by the next election.

untitledpng.bsky.social•7 days ago

How heavy is that phone

alfredo-garcia.bsky.social•7 days ago

A good answer, but what a stupid question.

bossybritches22.bsky.social•7 days ago

LK specialises in stupid questions

hoop63.bsky.social•7 days ago

But it's clear to see that Trump has to deliver what Putin wants, i.e. a way out of the war that allows him to save face.
Putin's problems are existential, and he is pressuring Trump to deliver for him, otherwise, Putin will transpose his existential problem into Trump's existential problem.

mimis66.bsky.social•7 days ago

Fuck Trump. Get European countries working together as a force to be reckoned with. Together we are mightier than the US and Russia!

janeremain.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is exactly the reason that Starmer's visit to America had a measure of success: because he was then in a position to at least try to bridge the gap. It was frustrating seeing some commentators saying otherwise on Friday.

paulfromhull.bsky.social•7 days ago

Must admit his actions of the last 48 hours have greatly improved my opinion of him.

gw55.bsky.social•7 days ago

Starmer is working for the UK nationally + globally

gw55.bsky.social•7 days ago

Dear Jane Starmer or Labour will get no credit if they turned world poverty into world wealth Right wing is far to strong in the UK now that is a frustrating fact

xbegone.bsky.social•7 days ago

And rubbed his back

mamaarth.bsky.social•7 days ago

Laura K is a pain. KS did well.

awkwardwaltz.bsky.social•7 days ago

Wouldn't really need to roll up your sleeves for that

highestbitter.bsky.social•7 days ago

United 24 ❤️🇺🇦

bruiselee.bsky.social•7 days ago

Why does he have to roll up his sleeves to use the phone? Is it wringing wet?

tonyman.bsky.social•7 days ago

No, it's an idiom that means "It's time to get to work."

I'm sure Starmer's office is a very dry place.

woodypie.bsky.social•7 days ago

Not his biggest fan by any means but at least, for the first time in a long time, we can say there’s an adult in charge.

awkwardwaltz.bsky.social•7 days ago

The adult who defends genocide and promises to end regulations so that big businesses can make more money in the name of "growth"

woodypie.bsky.social•7 days ago

I did mention that I wasn’t his biggest fan, right?

awkwardwaltz.bsky.social•7 days ago

Never questioned that I just disagree with the cliche that Starmer and this morally bankrupt iteration of the Labour Party are "adults" in any meaningful way that previous governments were not

woodypie.bsky.social•7 days ago

Yeah, Boris or Truss would be equally deft at navigating this situation.

diamondforyes.bsky.social•7 days ago

Does he roll his sleeves up every time he has to make a phone call?

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

When is he going to do sort out problems in the UK instead of Ukraine? Beginning with the racism in his own party?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-racism-report-martin-forde-starmer-b2564059.html

energy171.bsky.social•7 days ago

So we should just let them get on with it? Abandon the rest of Europe to navel gaze? Grow up!

droolian.bsky.social•7 days ago

could have done that to his ZIONIST TERRORIST FRIEND netanyahu but then again, STARMER THE ZIONIST hates Palestinians

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

Sir kid starver hates Black & Brown people. It's why the establishment installed him in labour to betray the party membership. He's a plant.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-racism-report-martin-forde-starmer-b2564059.html

gw55.bsky.social•7 days ago

Not true who is 1 of his biggest friends David Lammy stop peddling lies

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

gw55.bsky.social•7 days ago

Yes elaborate

droolian.bsky.social•7 days ago

Faiza Shaheen was an outstanding candidate, yet she was deselected WHEN she complained of racism against her IN the labour party. Corbyn used to get the blame for EVERYTHING wrong when he was leader, why the hypocrisy now?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/faiza-shaheen-labour-party-quit-racism-news-b2556437.html

gw55.bsky.social•7 days ago

Complaint that was unfounded

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

Read the Forde Report. It has the leaked emails from the Liberal cabal, which infiltrated the Socialist Labour Party and shows their racist campaign attacking Black & Brown Labour members.

Muted.

kauboibibappu.bsky.social•7 days ago

I was thinking "rolled up sleeves and sent weapons to Ukraine, along with France, Germany and others."

stdomingo1878.bsky.social•7 days ago

The problem the UK when it comes to defence it's got more horses than tanks and more Admirals than warships
Fact

neilm74.bsky.social•7 days ago

Sigh

jdd20.bsky.social•7 days ago

A real leader would have put trump in his place for his disgraceful behaviour.

janeharbison.bsky.social•7 days ago

He did

jdd20.bsky.social•6 days ago

Msybe….He supported Ukraine. It would be good to see and hear him and all the others actually criticise trump for his behaviour.

bossybritches22.bsky.social•7 days ago

I think he has done so by his warm welcome to Zelensky & speaking directly to the🍊💩, and now staying loudly and firmly that WE are supporting Ukraine even if the US govt doesn't.

dr-gee500.bsky.social•7 days ago

He and Macron HAVE put Trump in his place. Politely and diplomatically. They’ve done exactly what they needed to. Real leadership is without the histrionics. Real leadership isn’t a fist fight on the Oval Office lawn. Trump is now exposed and subsequently a pariah.

slamb.bsky.social•7 days ago

How long are his sleeves

rocket73.bsky.social•7 days ago

This is real leadership

bevbarbara.bsky.social•7 days ago

He is such a level headed man, feel safe with him in charge. Top Tier Kier

deanm97.bsky.social•7 days ago

I parked my disgust of Trump and broke a rule and watched Kuenssberg today to hear what Starmer had to say. How refreshing to see we have an adult running the Government.

carolinefree.bsky.social•7 days ago

Isn’t it?

ilkleymoor.bsky.social•7 days ago

May I ask, how much does it cost the UK to be part of the United Nations? Why can't they be part of a force to defend Ukraine in event of a piece deal, or will they stay as what appears to me "a toothless tiger"

crosbyblue.bsky.social•7 days ago

Just realised you meant UN and not NATO. Here’s the information:

ilkleymoor.bsky.social•7 days ago

Thanks David, that's what I wrote, United Nations is the UN.

crosbyblue.bsky.social•7 days ago

It doesn’t directly cost the UK (or any other country) anything to be part of NATO. There are no subscription fees. However, there is a requirement for member nations to spend at least 2% of their GDP on defence.

remonalisa.bsky.social•7 days ago

He's a weathervane politician and cannot be trusted.

motorthing68.bsky.social•7 days ago

Good. Somebody has to and practically nobody else now could.

suzasputnik.bsky.social•7 days ago

Calm phone calls always work with dictators, after all.

bossybritches22.bsky.social•7 days ago

He has to go through the motions so he can say he tried when the US goes completely to pot.

jonmcdevitt.bsky.social•7 days ago

Someone has to be a grown up.

suzasputnik.bsky.social•7 days ago

True, but it needs to work both ways and I'm not sure Trump/Musk are capable, but I would love to be proved wrong.

jonmcdevitt.bsky.social•7 days ago

That would be nice, yes.

sarniejewell.bsky.social•7 days ago

Not Starmer-hating lefties though.

mrsthomo.bsky.social•7 days ago

Christine Amenpour speaks with wisdom & deals in facts. Refreshing change on our tv.

ndbill.bsky.social•7 days ago

‘Roll up my sleeves’.
Is this supposed to imply an honest hard working approach ?
What he should be doing is telling Trump he isn’t welcome here if he behaves like that to a European leader!
A straight “F**k off” would have been another option?

jnthnwd.bsky.social•7 days ago

It's what a toolmaker would have done

ndbill.bsky.social•7 days ago

Good point.

janeharbison.bsky.social•7 days ago

He’s too clever to react in such a simple emotional manner

alfredo-garcia.bsky.social•7 days ago

That's why it's called diplomacy.
It wouldn't help Ukraine to act like that.

alfredo-garcia.bsky.social•7 days ago

I'm not convinced Trump (and even more so Vance) are persuadable, but Ukraine's allies have to try to ameliorate their worst instincts.
If it doesn't work, it's nothing except the promise of a state visit and tea with Charlie.

aleliuja.bsky.social•7 days ago

At this point all the experts are saying that Europe and Ukraine cannot do it without the US so we need to turn Trump around (sad as it is). The other point is - how the hell did we end up in this place? that the UK cannot even use their nukes without the US?! Security is at the heart of sovereignty

mikerobson.bsky.social•6 days ago

We’re not talking about using nukes. That’s not what’s missing without the US in the Anglo-French plan.

aleliuja.bsky.social•5 days ago

Of course, there’s logistics, intelligence and other stuff that’s needed. I understand if the UK (for example) doesn’t have a capability but to have the nukes and not be able to use them without the agreement of the US - that’s different.

deputybradlaw.bsky.social•7 days ago

Correct!!

mate612.bsky.social•7 days ago

Given MAGA’s current state of mind, do you feel convinced it will be receptive to such diplomacy?Or will Starmer’s and Europe’s efforts be treated with a similar contempt to that shown to Zelensky. We know where Vance’s and Musk’s European political sympathies lie.

ndbill.bsky.social•7 days ago

Let’s hope it does help then, but I doubt it will and we will end up pandering to bullies.

azurevista.bsky.social•7 days ago

It's sir kid starver an establishment plant. He doesn't believe anything gets says. Just parrots the lines they had to him.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-racism-report-martin-forde-starmer-b2564059.html

mancman44.bsky.social•7 days ago

Not really. As much as I agree where you’re coming from, the facts are without the Americans on board Europe right now, on its own cannot guarantee Ukraine’s security - as much as we all wish it could, it can’t. We need the US, at least in the short term.

ndbill.bsky.social•7 days ago

Good point but they aren’t on board now are they ? (They have clearly taken a decision not to oppose Putin) so no matter what happens we won’t have American Support.

EU will have to go it alone if they continue to support Ukraine?

mancman44.bsky.social•7 days ago

Trump’s taking a neutral position to get Putin at the negotiating table - it doesn’t necessarily mean that he won’t provide air or intelligence support when / if push comes to shove. I’m no Trump fan at all, in fact I think he’s a dick, but I see his logic when it comes to getting Putin to talk.

ndbill.bsky.social•6 days ago

Hope you’re right.

mancman44.bsky.social•6 days ago

I guess time will tell - I’ve been wrong many times before, just my take on things. If I am wrong, then at least everybody knows where they stand and Trump can f*** off. We can take care of ourselves.

energy171.bsky.social•7 days ago

If Zelenskyy can act like a diplomat as he has today by leaving the door open to reconciliation, then so should we.

mattroth82.bsky.social•7 days ago

How would this help?

ndbill.bsky.social•7 days ago

Maybe it won’t but how can we be supporting Ukraine and hosting Trump in the same breath? Either we are on the same side( in which case a state visit is acceptable if unpleasant) if we aren’t, why are we creeping round him?

mattroth82.bsky.social•7 days ago

Diplomatic relations don’t work that way.

garydolman.bsky.social•7 days ago

Thank goodness we have competent adults in government.

margaretrose.bsky.social•7 days ago

Wake up - there’s no lasting peace with Putin.

ellis-redding.bsky.social•7 days ago

So you want him not to bother trying to get any form of world peace? Just let Putin run his egotistical tyranny unchallenged?

issmith.bsky.social•7 days ago

Impressive stuff

lm99.bsky.social•7 days ago

But he doesn't do any of that to keep Israel in check....

Israel has just stopped aid into gaza, hasn't withdrawn its troops, changed the goalposts and blames hamas

Western politicians- silent

jegath.bsky.social•7 days ago

😡😡😡

pro50.bsky.social•7 days ago

I suspect Trump and Putin just want mineral wealth to counteract the Chinese dominance and will pay any price including death of a nation.

mattroth82.bsky.social•7 days ago

Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words…

fionasimmons.bsky.social•7 days ago

But Gaza?

lollymc.bsky.social•7 days ago

So glad he is the PM any of the past three PMs. Can you imagine!!!

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