Security has zero to do with it. Greenland is mineral rich. This is the power play Trump tried in first term with Tillerson. That was about giving Russia the ability to drill in Siberia's sub-arctic that only Exxon could execute. As always, greed runs the show.
Also, how is it "international security" when we already said we wouldn't honor military alliances? We're not helping Europe. Trump made that super clear. So this is just a robbery.
Greenland can see exactly how USA treats the former Danish West Indies.
More than a century after their purchase by Washington, they only have limited political rights - no vote in Congress, can't vote in Preidential elections.
Greenland has autonomous Parliament, and two voting MPs in Danish Parlm
It was normal for 200 years ago, when all the big European countries were trying to divide the rest of the world up between them. Which just drives in exactly how regressive their thought processes are.
It's got sod all to do with security. If it was, they could ask Denmark or NATO to put more military on the island. I think we all know why they want Greenland.
"Have". "Own". These terms are so patriarchal. If the issue is security, we already have a base there & if it benefits Greenlanders, too, then they would probably be willing to negotiate a treaty to expand it. That's how relations between countries are supposed to work. They can sell mineral rights
Russia is more important than Greenland and Canada, why not make it the fifty-first state ?
Don't you have the courage ?
Oh poor little man.
Attack the allies, you will be left alone.
Did they call the police? US Consulate in Toronto called the police over a peaceful demonstration out front. If you're going to 💩 on the world, you gotta take the flak that comes with it!
Yes. The Nato alliance forbids a Military attack on a Member state.
It will incur the total Wrath of 32 Member states. Trumpieland can't afford to be Ostracized.
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Why would the needs (but actually more like wants) of the United States usurp another nations sovereignty? This is “might makes right” rape culture politics. Wants are not needs — even when they feel desperate. & Just bc you want something doesn’t mean the person who has it must supply it — or else.
He wants all, and I mean ALL the rare mineral deposits. Seems like he's ready to kill for them. He cannot bear the knowledge that they are there and he can't get to them. None of this is planned to improve the quality of life in the U.S. it will only widen the wealth gap.
It's funny how we haven't needed it for 250 years but now they think there might be minerals they can profit off of there so they want to use the US government for their private corporations hostile takeover. And you crazy kids thought he was preventing world war 3
Been thinking about this, maybe we need to think about this more. Why do we need it? We have a base there & can monitor things from it. Who is cheato taking orders from? Is this a quid pro quo?
If only the Americans would be more specific about why they think Greenland is strategically vital.
Let’s be brutally honest, it’s nothing to do with strategic defence, it’s Greenland’s vast reserves of mineral wealth.
That is true. But then Lebensraum is as much about expansionism as it is about the literal meaning. I’d watch for the Trump Crime Syndicate enriching themselves off the back of the mineral deals.
Just like a toddler in the supermarket spotting the sweet section. “Mummy, I think you need to understand how important it is for me to gorge myself on all that sugary stuff and you will be paying for it or I will scream and scream.”
The US is becoming irrelevant, the future belongs to EU, China and global South. US hegemony was always coming to an end to many alternatives now to US business.
We can hope. Trump's backers are isolationist, and Trump doesn't feel that gives him the opportunities he wants to bully the world. They're in a bind and thrashing about right now. Isolationism will cripple the US economy in no time flat but they've never really thought that through. Basic moronism.
Yes indeed, fast track self imposed imperial decline. 'Thrashing about' is exactly what it seems like. Trouble is poorer a nation gets who are armed to the teeth the more they look outwards blaming others for there issues.
So we can just say we need the USA state by state, dollar each. Hive off Alaska to Canada then they have a border with Russia and a straight line Canada USA. Easy. Back in Egypt with Rameses and Tutankhamen they basically beat up any Hittites in Persians who dared attack. Greens not for sale
This is f****** insanity the vice president of the United States essentially coveting another country territory this hasn't happened in over 125 years.
EVERY Decent Person In The World - Especially Patriotic #Veterans Everywhere - KNOW That #JDVance Is A DESPICABLE PERSON-Who Has SHAMED *ALL* Volunteer Service Members-Worldwide.
He has also brought SHAME on the Good Name Of #America.
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They’re rapists. All of them.
This was posted like 2 weeks ago
by St. Clair on https://counterpunch.org
The “Want To Remain with
Denmark” percentage
is probably higher now.
Putin needs Greenland, not America. He already is trying to take Islands, next to Greenland. Then...watch out, he can attack Europe and...USA, too. Russian TV is already showing American map and spots, where Russians will target with Atomic bombs.
Errm he can already target both with nuclear weapons quite easily. If he wants greenland its the same reason the orange cunt wants it. To steal their mineral wealth.
Yes, me. I've wracked my brains for when the security of the US was threatened by the Greenland sized hole in the perimeter fence, and I'm getting nothing....
no Mr Vance ... the US has zero right to Greenland ... and the Greenlanders told you so... so you and Mr Trump and all your thugs can just go and jump in the arctic sea and cool off.
Oh, okay. That changes everything. I mean, if they NEED it, I mean REALLY NEED it as he says, then who are the rest of the world to tell him to fuck off. Don't you understand? The US NEEDS it. Shame on everyone who wants to stop the US from having what they NEED.
The US administration is as dumb as a rock. They can't understand subtle or 'diplomatic' language. They see tolerance as condoning. Silence as support.
Leaders need to stop pussy-footing around and tell them to "Just fuck off".
Even they will understand.
They don’t need Greenland for security reasons. They want Greenland in order to plunder the mineral wealth of Greenland without having to strike a deal that benefits Greenland or Denmark
If anyone starts WW3 it’ll by USA, they’ve threatened Canada Panama, Greenland, Europe , bombed Yemen, agree with war criminals Putin, Netanyahu & think threatening everyone is good. The lunatics are in the White House thanks to gullible scared Americans.
The old joke is that having been late for two world wars, the US would be early for the next one.
Jeez, it’s supposed to be a joke America, not a challenge.
Has this type of provocative language become normalized?
This is 180 degrees removed from diplomacy. This is a pathetic attempt to influence the Greenlanders.
Who the fuck do they think they are. They are pushing their luck on just about everything. J D Vance I feel has the potential to be even worse than Trump.
Yes, he is, you are right in your understanding of him V Trump. It’s a very worrying time for the US, and the rest of the World. They all have to be stopped, now!
Of course Father Christmas lives in Lapland (aka Finland) not Greenland. These 'lands are a bit like 'stans, aren't they? The strategic priority is to make sure White boys get the best presents - actual guns that really work.
I’ve noticed over and over folks involved in dictatorships tend to have or evolve very flamboyant weird appearances. I think it has to do with the combination of ego, denial, and the elimination of dissenting voices within earshot. They think they look like rock stars and everyone says 👍.
I think Leon has been sharing his ketamine. They are all insane, high and drunk on power. Quoting Henry II " will no one rid us of this troublesome man (* priest)!
And the [expletive deleted] making the comments is an active accomplice to the coup in the US that is attempting to align the US with Russian interests.
Canada, Greenland and Denmark will kick their asses if they try. Send his ass into Iceland in a volcano. Most Americans can't handle the Rocky Mountains or snow. The artic regions environments would take care of it.
For international security, it'd be no bad thing if the US failed utterly & states seceded. One after another, the Republican states would die because, let's be honest, you're not getting away with government based on semi professional shitkicking once the real wealth creators have fucked off.
What do you expect in all sincerity? The man’s an appalling human being and that’s being generous. He’s going to prison after this, if he makes it that far.
The U.S. has clearly demonstrated it has no idea what security is . After compromising other Nations Security repeatedly JD’s vulgarity arrogance and Nationalism should be seen as simple minded bullying
Toddlers in toy shops say they ‘need’ when they don’t ‘need’ at all. If they do get it, the’ll be bored with it after a few days (assuming they’ve not broken it). Thats the level of this administration: spoiled, entitled toddlers.
But I think Putin told tRUmp to 'acquire' Greenland and the Panama Canal, then Pootie will 'acquire' the US, and voilà, he owns a quarter of the planet.
At the very least, we need to stall till Father Time catches up with him and tRUmp.
How did we survive without it this long. Lying pieces of shit. Trump can’t even spell Greenland correctly. JD looks like a creep who doesn’t know why we would need Greenland, when Alaska is wide the fuck open!
And then he needs Canada, Panama and Mexico, and Europe. He's like a toddler stomping his foot and screaming in a store when you tell him No, and he's way past his nap.
People aren't talking about Trump's motivation for backing Russia nearly enough.
He thinks if he lets Putin take whatever he wants from Ukraine, he can pick whatever he fancies - Greenland, Canada... and China wants Taiwan, etc.
These despots must have all read the same play book
That's BS. They want to take it and all of its minerals. The condition should be, if they obtain it, he and all MAGAS could live there happily ever after, and the good people of Greenland can come here.
Writing his name in history. Greenland is a valuable place resource and location-wise in reality. Nothing to do with 'security'. Encouraged by/and encouraging Putin's empire building. He's a bully and really quite enjoys it. It's European, and they need to face him down in no uncertain terms.
Global Warming is rising Greenland's temperature at twice the rate of the rest of the world. There will be parts of America that will be even worse hell holes than they are now
As it warms, more of Greenland's resources will become easier accessible
The only appropriate response from Denmark and Greenland is to kick the American military base off of Greenland. If you're going to threaten a country with invasion that country is stupid to allow you to have a military presence on their land.
Wait! You can't remove the U.S. Space Force from Greenland! Isn't that the place all our space warriors take off from in their spaceships, to patrol the space around the planet to protect us from invading Martians?
Tough shit. Your imaginary 'need' doesn't outweigh Greenland's sovereignty and complete lack of interest in being invaded by the US. Gee, I wonder if there is any corollary to Russia invading Ukraine...
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she should’ve worn longer skirt.”
More than a century after their purchase by Washington, they only have limited political rights - no vote in Congress, can't vote in Preidential elections.
Greenland has autonomous Parliament, and two voting MPs in Danish Parlm
Maybe the enlisted might say, naw..we’re not your invading force, it’s not an American thing.
The problem is trump knows putin will come 2 his side & that scares Europe
China will watch, take Taiwan, then wait while WWIII destroys their opposition
trump is betting Greenland is his hitler / Sudetenland
https://gizmodo.com/peter-thiel-backed-startup-that-wanted-to-buy-greenland-is-thrilled-that-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland-2000548415
Don't you have the courage ?
Oh poor little man.
Attack the allies, you will be left alone.
Russia is your BFF?
Unless your planing on a war w Europe
It will incur the total Wrath of 32 Member states. Trumpieland can't afford to be Ostracized.
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Makes my skin crawl.
Circle of Lies
Can’t Wait to be King
Can you free the lout tonight
The only effective weapons Europe/UK have are sanctions.
When it comes to Trump, always follow the damn money. Because it's never, ever about anything but the money. . .
It doesn't
Let’s be brutally honest, it’s nothing to do with strategic defence, it’s Greenland’s vast reserves of mineral wealth.
There's not a whole lot of raum in which to leben in Greenland.
Their insignia: imagine a black "T" in a white circle on a red armband.
The US being a source of security and stability is over.
This is not anti-American, it's just being pro European security.
Cult of FASCISM
He has also brought SHAME on the Good Name Of #America.
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2. We understand EXACTLY what you're doing.
3. No, you don't.
4. Again, no, you don't.
This was posted like 2 weeks ago
by St. Clair on https://counterpunch.org
The “Want To Remain with
Denmark” percentage
is probably higher now.
incompetent authoritarian government who has NO FRIENDS in the free world.
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💙 Show up!
💙 Make signs!
💙 Bring friends!
💙 Alert local media!
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I need the rest of the story here.
Kinda feel like there's ALOT that's not being said.
Leaders need to stop pussy-footing around and tell them to "Just fuck off".
Even they will understand.
denmark certainly isn't going to give it to them - but trump will
Jeez, it’s supposed to be a joke America, not a challenge.
This is 180 degrees removed from diplomacy. This is a pathetic attempt to influence the Greenlanders.
Trump owes Putin big time.
Anyone else old enough to remember that?
Asking for a friend😏
But Finland is doing exactly that, and will continue to do so.
Putin wants to harm the United States.
There is no deal Trump could make with Putin, that Putin would honour.
Trump & his cult are dumb enough to believe he would.
Greenland's EU membership is what stands between you & being nuked.
That's my point.
Finland? Really?
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Must have been looking Finland on the map when I was typing.
*Denmark*
But I think Putin told tRUmp to 'acquire' Greenland and the Panama Canal, then Pootie will 'acquire' the US, and voilà, he owns a quarter of the planet.
At the very least, we need to stall till Father Time catches up with him and tRUmp.
He thinks if he lets Putin take whatever he wants from Ukraine, he can pick whatever he fancies - Greenland, Canada... and China wants Taiwan, etc.
These despots must have all read the same play book
As it warms, more of Greenland's resources will become easier accessible
It's not sizable, they could manage it.
It would escalate things and offers no benefits.
NATO countries are just hoping that the US remains in NATO.
she may even be the one who introduced him to the punch bowl