Trump’s executive orders must comply with the Constitution. @preetbharara.bsky.social and I discuss the forthcoming legal challenges to his early presidential actions on a new episode of @cafedotcom.bsky.social Insider. Listen: bit.ly/3Cli3Np - ThreadSky

joycewhitevance.bsky.social • 43 days ago

Trump’s executive orders must comply with the Constitution. @preetbharara.bsky.social and I discuss the forthcoming legal challenges to his early presidential actions on a new episode of @cafedotcom.bsky.social Insider. Listen: https://bit.ly/3Cli3Np

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roguishjrt.bsky.social•43 days ago

Only if the MAGA Supreme Court agrees

terpsichorecmlos.bsky.social•42 days ago

👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏾👍🏿👍🏽

letscruise.bsky.social•43 days ago

I don’t want to be unsupportive, or doomsaying, but this is all very naive and not really to prepare people for what is really coming.

berncomar.bsky.social•43 days ago

With all due respect, he doesn’t have to do squat now that the House & Senate will back everything he says and does. The SCOTUS gave him cover. Judge Cannon swats down anything that comes his way. He can wink and the Proud Boys will do anything for him because he has pardon power. He is a dictator.

savedemocracynow.bsky.social•43 days ago

Seems kind of hopeless, doesn’t it?

I think our best hope is that he has turned his administration over to incompetent sycophants who will take the corner a bit too fast and drive off the cliff.

sebboucher.bsky.social•43 days ago

That’s the legal theory… but surrounding himself with a sufficient mass of “yes” people might allow many of these things to move forward regardless of their legal status. It seems that a large number of Trumps followers are hoping for just that outcome : strongman autocracy & adulation.

nls5.bsky.social•43 days ago

so do they?

nvnole.bsky.social•43 days ago

And just who is going to make him comply with the Constitution?

teddmaxfield.bsky.social•43 days ago

Who will stop the executive orders that are unconditional? The Supreme Court? Congress? The agencies ordered to carry them out? The Constitution is useless now. Laws are useless now. There are neither checked nor balances.

pidxr.bsky.social•43 days ago

As in Federal employees must comply, including the President.

jazz51.bsky.social•43 days ago

The trouble with that idea is that the supreme court interprets the constitution. Any. Way. They. Want.

evedillingham.bsky.social•43 days ago

I’m sorry, but his being sworn in without amnesty violates Sec 3 of 14th Amendment, so he doesn’t have to comply with anything. Who’s enforcing the law?

nancyhicks.bsky.social•42 days ago

Watching our criminal justice system operate on all the cases against Trump has taken away all my confidence in the criminal justice system.
I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for these challenges to stop him.

patek-svendsen.bsky.social•43 days ago

What if Trump ignores the Supreme Court?

dmichbai.bsky.social•43 days ago

During the discussion ask what happens if the supreme court rules against trump and he says so what, doing it anyway. Afterall we are a country that has no clue how to handle a constitutional crisis

dmichbai.bsky.social•43 days ago

Trump doesnt have to comply with the constitution cuz he deleted it from the white house website😝 so there!

getamop.bsky.social•42 days ago

They don’t care and who is going to stop them?

beverlymann19.bsky.social•43 days ago

Nah.

sethp-grumpygoat.bsky.social•43 days ago

L. Tribe says that the states have to show that the EO causes them harm. !!!! ????

beachhermit.bsky.social•43 days ago

Bahahahahahahaha.

Joyce thinks norms and traditions still apply. lol.

johna303x3.bsky.social•43 days ago

If you run across anyone who believes that a president SHOULD be able to undo the 14th amendment with a stroke of his Sharpie if it would work the same way for some OTHER amendment like, maybe the 2nd.

evandawson.bsky.social•43 days ago

NY state does that to the 2nd Amendment all the time.

cottagedweller.bsky.social•43 days ago

Must they?

cozybooksonly.bsky.social•43 days ago

Does anyone think the current Supreme Court is going to rule based on law and not based on what Leonard Leo wants ? These are Heritage Foundation paid for lackeys.

kmosser.bsky.social•43 days ago

I admire the optimism here:

"Trump’s executive orders must comply with the Constitution."

rush1979.bsky.social•43 days ago

Can I ask you who's going to stop him?

javiermt.bsky.social•43 days ago

... Sorry, Merrick Garland made you go through all of this ...

egandale.bsky.social•43 days ago

I know you mean well but didn’t we respond similarly before the election?

darwinwest-woods.bsky.social•43 days ago

This ass intends to push and test the boundaries until the real people in power feel safe enough to reveal themselves.

sethp-grumpygoat.bsky.social•43 days ago

It is clearly arguable that trump is not eligible to be where he is. But that this farce continues shows the weaknesses of our legal system.

yvonnedyrda.bsky.social•43 days ago

Question: If a pardon that is a furtherance of a crime makes the pardon invalid, doesn’t that mean the J6ers pardons will be invalid because the felon granting the pardon was part of the crimes he is pardoning? 🤔

alicia56.bsky.social•42 days ago

That’s a great question! You should submit it to Preet’s podcast or Sisters In-Law. I’d say it would only matter if the 🍊💩(I refuse to use his name)had been convicted of insurrection. But, unfortunately we never got that far. 🤷🏼‍♀️I’m not a lawyer though, so what do I know?

yvonnedyrda.bsky.social•42 days ago

Thank you Alicia and good suggestions. I have a feeling you might be right about him not actually being convicted *yet.* I also refuse to say his name and 🍊💩 has been my main go to as well.

alicia56.bsky.social•42 days ago

Well, I think we must follow each other then!! 🥰

yvonnedyrda.bsky.social•42 days ago

Lol! Agreed!!! 👍😂

johnnynovio.bsky.social•43 days ago

I agree but it would seem Trump and SCOTUS may have a different opinion about executive orders and the Constitution.

pinetreemt.bsky.social•43 days ago

Thank you for all you do to keep us informed.
Btw. Meta has added trump etc to everyone’s fb and Instagram account as following. I blocked him. But everyone should check

roscoangel.bsky.social•43 days ago

Your constitution no longer matters to your SCOTUS, so now what?

sjb1.bsky.social•43 days ago

People keep talking about this. Why doesn't somebody actually do something about it. Stop talking and let's see some action from somewhere.

sjb1.bsky.social•43 days ago

They took the Constitution off the WH web page

sjb1.bsky.social•43 days ago

They say they are working on the site. Let's see how long it takes to be put back up!

dancinnan.bsky.social•43 days ago

No they don't - Trump will not comply with the Constitution & no one will stop him - we had our chance to stop him, but the broken justice system gave him a free pass

rawilson59.bsky.social•43 days ago

But how do the courts deal with “let’s see the courts try to enforce their decision” as threaten by Vance? What’s our long game?

flushpuppy.bsky.social•43 days ago

I wish I had faith in that anymore.

nutsandhappy.bsky.social•43 days ago

"Let it be written. Let it be done" Yul brynner in Moses. Trump thinks that's how it works.

blackbelt010.bsky.social•43 days ago

Also, he's a convicted felon. He cannot be in the presence of weapons or ammunition?

whitluce.bsky.social•43 days ago

There is no constitution in this administration

annim96.bsky.social•43 days ago

Except he didn't place his hand on the bible when swearing to uphold the Constitution so he doesn't have to. Kind of like crossing your fingers behind your back when pinkie swearing.

sjb1.bsky.social•43 days ago

True! Do you think he would use that as an excuse? Absolutely 100% yes!

mcmere.bsky.social•43 days ago

Because he is Satan.

jenvacca.bsky.social•43 days ago

Do they though?

inmyheadagain.bsky.social•43 days ago

The US Constitution is no longer on the Whitehouse website. SCOTUS was bought. There is no “rule of law”, but hey, you can buy DJT or Melanie crypto.

punkdude.bsky.social•43 days ago

"Trump’s executive orders must comply with the Constitution."
And when they don't, nothing will happen. The Supreme Court will allow it.

sethp-grumpygoat.bsky.social•43 days ago

“The Supreme Court will allow it.” What is “it”?

punkdude.bsky.social•43 days ago

Trump's Executive Orders.

sabrosapurr.bsky.social•43 days ago

100%

stephencarveractor.bsky.social•43 days ago

Can we not wait four years to determine they're illegal?

stanleygilroy.bsky.social•43 days ago

The Constitution that states insurrectionists can not hold government office?

All due Respect but wake up Neville Chamberlain.

nospam4meoru.bsky.social•43 days ago

Joyce, you must just feel ill and shaken to your core about Trump’s behavior. Please take care of yourself. I, and I am sure millions of others, appreciate your commitment to reporting honestly more than I can say.

Keep those chickens and dogs and your family around you!

wolfmar.bsky.social•43 days ago

DT has made it clear he has no regard for the Constitution. He’s going to do whatever he wants to do, and I have no idea who or what can stop him. Congress? SCOTUS?

lynndemarest.bsky.social•43 days ago

He doesn't care. He'll do it anyway, just to troll his enemies and earn praise from his sycophants.

bkilus.bsky.social•42 days ago

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-10/anti-commandeering-doctrine “Fed Govt may NEITHER issue directives requiring States to address particular problems, NOR command States’ officers . . .to administer, enforce fed regulatory program.” Stand down,MAGA.Demanding states assist in Deportations is ILLEGAL. @preetbharara.bsky.social

phelanjj2.bsky.social•43 days ago

1. Fulfill a promise, get it into court, then delay.
2. Flood social media with angry rhetoric about the issue.

Isn't that how those people operate?

laluneargent.bsky.social•43 days ago

When he starts going after the "birthright citizenship" people, will he start with the Russians who were coming here in his first term to give birth so their kids would have US citizenship?

voxindie.bsky.social•43 days ago

Doubt it.....

darinentrails.bsky.social•32 days ago

You guys should sell shirrs with the different sections of the Constitution that are being ignored by Trump.

tooterbean.bsky.social•43 days ago

People say this, but clearly laws do not apply to him

savedemocracynow.bsky.social•43 days ago

Joyce, how are law schools going to put these anti-Constitution actions into perspective in the classroom, if the DOJ and the courts are going to let it be the new norm?

whadevs.bsky.social•43 days ago

It’s odd that you don’t think they know this. The whole idea of a circus is to get your attention into the ring, or watch the court challenges go all the way up to the SCOTUS (the BIG tent)

loveupstateny.bsky.social•43 days ago

His pardons of insurrectionists do not comply with the Constitution. He has put American citizens in harms way. Is that stretching it? It seems like it is an argument that can be supported. He is releasing those who have broken the law to support him and only him. To me this is treason.

patek-svendsen.bsky.social•43 days ago

It smells like supporting sedition to me.

sjb1.bsky.social•43 days ago

Agreed! But who will actually do something about it. And they know that. It's sick!

jimbo75.bsky.social•43 days ago

Presidunce Fatso is not interested in the Constitution/ against his “religion” .

resistantcat.bsky.social•43 days ago

We are past that.

renniecolemanmusic.bsky.social•43 days ago

Yeah but for how long?

fernmacguffin.bsky.social•43 days ago

That’s great, but he bought the Supreme Court

holgapro.bsky.social•43 days ago

Who is going to stop him?? The authoritarian misogynist Taliban members of the Supreme Court who will gladly kiss the felon’s ass and support his destruction of the constitution.

marcusantoninus.bsky.social•43 days ago

No it absolutely does not and the more it violates the more support he pulls from his supporters.

chowdaddy.bsky.social•43 days ago

Oh, that pesky ol' Constitution again...

ed-cole.bsky.social•43 days ago

Joyce, long time follower, and I do appreciate your hard work, but who, exactly is going to stop them? No one. He and his ilk are above the law. We have seen that already.

tedwardbundy.bsky.social•43 days ago

Trump is not the smartest President ... Nor is he surrounded by anyone who is and yet here we are.

ckgetinvolved.bsky.social•43 days ago

Stop calling him POTUS. He's FFOTUS!!

geopru.bsky.social•43 days ago

Now that he is back, do you really think he cares 2 cents about the Constitution? He's back to do his worst.

moose49.bsky.social•43 days ago

The Constitution has been removed from the White House website. (Ht:Reddit)

Also, the constitutional role of the Senate to “advise (advice) and consent” on Cabinet and court nominees has been abridged to “advise.”

Totalitarianism in full bloom.

agigijones.bsky.social•43 days ago

All he does is throw things at the wall to see what sticks and tie up the courts. He doesn’t care about the law and definitely not the constitution.

bobbiefoleypitkin.bsky.social•43 days ago

He knows it. It's all noise for his base. What we need now are leaders to speak loudly. It's been too quiet. We need a coalition to shout!

appledawg.bsky.social•43 days ago

Interacts attorneys we should have used the

lippyjimmy.bsky.social•43 days ago

Following both of you now. Thank you in advance.

86ad6.bsky.social•43 days ago

Let's make collector cards for all federal and circuit court judges, with their office numbers and emails!!

great-basin.bsky.social•43 days ago

Also, let’s never forget that that David Plouffe is responsible for this disaster because he stopped negative campaigning and went soft.

great-basin.bsky.social•43 days ago

Oh please, just give it up. The Constitution is dead. John Roberts and the other 5 perjurers on the Supreme Court trashed it. Stop gaslighting that the rule of law exists. Seriously, you’re embarrassing yourselves.

outtascope.bsky.social•43 days ago

But what's it matter if the Supreme Court views itself as a superior legislative body, unbridled by precedent or the text of the Constitution itself, totally in the service of our newly minted authoritarian regime?

He can do whatever he wants, other than impose an ethics requirement for SCOTUS.

tc5051.bsky.social•43 days ago

Well Mrs Vance when the SOTUS court makes Trump accountable under the law, the constitution will count but for now its just so much republican toilet paper.

speciouscranium.bsky.social•43 days ago

Democrats think they can talk to republican nazis. Timothy Treadwell thought he could talk to grizzlies.
There’s a lesson from nature there.

tgfe.bsky.social•43 days ago

Easy, dictators don't need to comply with the constitution.

labsrbest2024.bsky.social•43 days ago

No one is above the law? I think he has put that old adage to rest.

glwlbrgr.bsky.social•43 days ago

Good stuff...

maisany.bsky.social•43 days ago

That’s all well and good but isn’t the operative question here the Constitution according to who? The well-heeled six? I’d say that’s a fairly malleable and indeterminate “standard”.