So, what have we learned, invading a country and starting a war; means you want to win. Peace through strength, means you win by, destroying your enemy. Peace talks does not mean you want peace. Unless it’s spelled piece, as in keeping every piece of Territory won in battle.
And, in actuality, pootin wants control of Europe. He has Belarus, grabbed Crimea without any argument, and now Ukraine. He won't stop until he gets it all or he's dead.
That sounds a lot like trump. He has no desire for a smooth running conservative government following his rules, he thrives on the chaos he is creating, the feel of living in a reality show with constant drama. He wants to be the puppet master of uncertainty.
Yes, Putin is playing war chess as usual, but it’s so obvious I can’t imagine anyone believes his games anymore. I’m pretty sure trump knows what the game is and is playing along to screw over Ukraine for Putin.
The only peace he wants is a piece of everything. No one should be negotiating with him. He doesn’t. He just demands. There is a special place in Hell for him. Right beside Trump, Musk and so many more.
Putin wants piece!
As in a piece of eastern Ukraine, a piece of western Ukraine and so forth. Ukraine and Europe needs to cut the US loose and tell trump and his master to go fuck off.
Of course not. He is only interested in building a new Russian empire and Trump will help him because he wants his own empire in this side of the pond.
As a Brit it seems obvious that your president wants the minerals and putiin wants added prestige from a successful land grab, just unfortunate that someone else owns it for now. I'm only sad to see that our leaders accept being played.
NATO needs to kick the United States to the curb. For years, the United States has had a boot on Zelensky's neck, refusing to allow Ukraine to take the war with Russia to Russia.
A peace deal with Putin is not worth the paper it is written on. He will throw it out the window at the first opportunity he gets, along with the the fool clutching on to it.
Glad to know that NBC has contact with some real geniuses there! It's like I needed them to tell me what's going on, that I've been seeing with my own goddamn eyes!
BULLSHIT GRUEL FOR THE MASSES! TURN THAT SHIT OFF!
Trump, Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos, their families, and supporters operate under the Divine Rights of Kings! FREEDOM HAS TO BE WORTH MORE THAN MONEY! YOU CAN'T LET MONEY BE YOUR FEAR! AMERICA VS SWASTIKA! DUMP THE STOCK MOVEMENT!! https://youtu.be/cQXl5JZG-C8?si=YCLpKpmexnaZnDH8
Well, duh. When is trump going to be arrested? When is muck? Unlawfulness needs to be remedied. Sick and tired of hearing against the law or constitution with no action being done. SICK AND TIRED.
Putin won't stop there, giving up Ukraine, doesn't stop Putin from then trying to control other Nordic countries -
Russia has lost the ability to negotiate.
Ukraine is a free country -
Russia is on its ass financially - there shouldn't be any say here for the head of these negotiations with Putin
Doesn’t anyone realize Putin is a murderous dictator who bumps off his opponents. He hates the U.S., threatening to destroy us from within, his puppet Trump doing a great job for him.
Don’t worry. Donny T tells me he’s a fantastic negotiator. Probably the greatest the world has ever seen. If anyone can negotiate peace with Putin, it’s Don. I have full faith he can do this. (I don’t. I’m kidding. This sucks.)
They just lie away & expect everyone to believe them. If Ukraine gets the EU behind them, they are doing so well that Putin will have to give up.
Resistance isn't futile.
Revolution is necessary.
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Golly. I would have never thought Vladimir Putin wanted control of Ukraine. Especially after he so gently invaded the country and accidentally killed all those innocent civilians with those errant, misguided missiles.
That's why the US is being frozen out of discussions about a new defense strategy that include Europe, the UK, Canada and several other democracies at risk from Putin's expansion. Meeting Feb 19 in Paris. Sorry America, we can get peace without you. If you pull out there is a $$$ billion penalty
Putin NEEDS to control Ukraine in order to get to Poland. He claims Poland is his, and he wants it back. Ukraine is just in the way. He will NEVER accept peace. Trump just wants the land for its mineral rights.
I am from Poland and from our point of view some western politicians are incredible morons. Russia cannot be trusted. What they say and what they do are two completely different things. If you want what’s best for your country, do the exact opposite of what Russia wants you to do.
Of course he doesn’t. He’s getting much more than he could ever have hoped for. Because your Nazi President interfered and is talking to Russia without Ukraine present, supported by Europe, Putin’s already reached his objective. The Russians will think he has won.
He never had or has ever wanted peace he's not capable of it lying yes but he's hidden his disdain for it's citizens. Now he wants to deny their existence or right to exist. He will never recognize any ceasefire.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT DID YOU KNOW THAT THE SUN COMES UP IN THE FUCKING EAST EVERY DAY I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS OH MY GOD IT'S LIKE A MIRACLE NOBODY HAS EVER FUCKING HEARD OF THIS BEFORE
Putin and Trump can stick their megalomania somewhere else. They will not determine the fate of Ukraine or Europe alone. Thanks to Trump, the USA is isolated and will soon be doomed to decline. Russia is already on the brink of collapse anyway.
Putin wants his USSR back. He has not gotten over that the Berlin Wall fell, the USSR collapsed, and he was a taxi cab driver when there was no hard currency left.
Can you imagine having a leader who cares so deeply for his country that he is willing to defend it like the lion that he is?Zelensky is a king among men. Unlike the skunk Putin, or the whore Drumpf.
Is extremely sad and unfortunate that Zelinski is not part of any of the talks that happened today!! How can you have negotiations of half the party is not there
I think that Trump’s press conference was the most disgusting display of betrayal of democratic values and the right of countries to self-determination that i have witnessed in my longish life
Watch “Winter On Fire” for free on YouTube. It is a well done and informative documentary on the Maidan Revolution and how the brave Ukrainians ousted a puppet government. It’s worth the watch.
That wouldn't be intel from sources interested in maintaining forever wars would it? Not a scare tactic to keep the weapons and ammo flowing for certain MIC profits? Aren't there enough deadly weapons to employ as soon as needed if Putin defys a treaty. There WILL be a treaty this time, right?
The demands Putina is putting on the peace treaty is definitely saying he wants control to be handed to be handed over. I am sure Zelensky will tell both Putina and his orange bitch to go eff themselves.
Please tell me you all see what I’m seeing! We just joined the “Axis” after our men & women DEFEATED them 80 F’ing years ago by fighting & dying to save the world from evil & we literally just handed Europe to Putin. So, R’s take over N America & Putin takes Europe, that’s their plan! Pick a side!!!
The potential silver lining is that he will embarrass Trump, who will throw a tantrum. Of course then Putin will start releasing all the dirt he has on him.
He's trying to buy time to restock & rearm. Ukraine wasn't the pushover Putin thought they'd be. His forces are decimated & he's dependent on North Korea to put feet on the ground. Trump is in the Putin camp. Traitorous actions towards the USA's allies. Shame on you America.
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And, in actuality, pootin wants control of Europe. He has Belarus, grabbed Crimea without any argument, and now Ukraine. He won't stop until he gets it all or he's dead.
Work it out people!
I don't think conditions exist yet that both Putin and Zelensky will agree to.
As in a piece of eastern Ukraine, a piece of western Ukraine and so forth. Ukraine and Europe needs to cut the US loose and tell trump and his master to go fuck off.
All he has to do is get the fuck out of Ukraine, like now
See how easy that would be?
These talks are a joke. Another waste of time and a big show from Trump. Everything is based on his own personal bull$hit reality TV show.
You fix where it started at. If Russia started it first, you go to Russia not Ukraine to fix the mess so you can tell Russia to fuck off.
BULLSHIT GRUEL FOR THE MASSES! TURN THAT SHIT OFF!
https://youtu.be/cQXl5JZG-C8?si=YCLpKpmexnaZnDH8
Russia has lost the ability to negotiate.
Ukraine is a free country -
Russia is on its ass financially - there shouldn't be any say here for the head of these negotiations with Putin
help make that happen
Resistance isn't futile.
Revolution is necessary.
🌊🇺🇸🇺🇦🌈🟧🌍💙
https://Refusefascism.org
Is that like “flatulence”?
Arm Ukraine to the teeth and let them finish the job .
Duh.
Now do Trump. Does HE want peace?
Donate to Ukraine
If the US couldn’t take a divided Vietnam, then Russia sure as fuck can’t take a united Ukraine.
Europe still has your back. #StandWithUkraine
Rebuilding the Soviet Union
One can dream, right?
Just like that, after fighting them off over 100 years, poof!