I doubt ppl are getting particularly engaged on this point bc I don't think they honestly care much, but also Ive met my share of people who would take at least some level of joy in causing them pain
They're bullies and they like and respect bullying. At the end of the day, Canada is the smaller kid on the playground and it feels good to throw their weight around.
The only people I can even imagine liking this Canada shit are right-wing grand strategy game nerds. I half feel like one of those freaks is the one who first said it to Trump.
They're doing hardcore nationalism/culture war/misinfo playbook to distract from the global scale of problems and climate change. Mad scramble for policy and power, apologize later
I’ve seen conservatives coping about the Canadian tariffs with incoherent ad hoc rationalizations. But I haven’t seen anyone get pumped over it. And truly why would they lol
The movie version is these awful guys changing their minds. In real life they just become astronomically less talkative, common, and relevant. I'm not saying that's happening but.... hope so?
the loud online right was never reachable but they are also very small, the coalition the right convinced to flip because of Biden’s middling centrism failing to improve their conditions will turn on them
I think he's abandoning everyone, are any rally's scheduled, any MAGA event since becoming president. Trump is alienating himself from everyone. It's kind of what he does best right, get people who once thought highly of him to abandon him or he makes supporting him impossible after swindling them.
I think it’s probably more about free trade. The populist base is energized by the idea we can turn back the clock on globalization, reopen the mines and factories. There’s a lot of magical thinking in this, but they’re still mourning their livelihoods and he’s exploiting that.
i’m a dual citizen of canada and the usa, having lived half my life in either, and i’m still trying to figure out who this is for because i’m just seeing it convert rightwing american tech bros and qanon canadians away from trump and little else lmao
I lurked on /pol/ last night (would not recommend) and bore witness to simply amazing chud cope that Trump is privy to top secret evidence of Canadian subterfuge or collusion that we are years from understanding as civilians. lol. lmao, even.
It definitely doesn't appeal to the more normie crowd who voted for him because they had fond memories of egg prices when he was in office. I think most of those people voted for him under the assumption that he was just bluffing about the tariffs.
I can usually see through the BS, but I'm floored. Who do these tariffs benefit? Canada is taking America products off the shelf, and texas/the south benefits from trading with Mexico.
The current conspiracy theory is that, since Elon is a natural-born Canadian citizen, annexing Canada makes him eligible to be POTUS himself. So this is Trump doing a tit-for-tat with the guy with the money.
He literally actually might genuinely actually really want Canada to be a state, he's refused to communicate with the Prime Minister of Canada since his inauguration, there isn't even a diplomatic line here.
None of it makes sense without the most absurd thing being the truth.
I think it's because Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself and he feels he can win any trade war he wants. I doubt his supporters are anywhere near the top of his mind at any point during his entire presidency.
Yeah, I see republicans are desperate to frame Mexico as their next Middle East, but the difficulty is that drug lords have no ideology, and in fact share a motivation with them: profit above all. Narcos are unshackled capitalists with the terror tactics of colonists.
You shouldn't underestimate how stupid his hardcore base is
Conservatives are absolutely willing to throw other white countries under the bus if it suits their propaganda. I remember Freedom Fries. And conservatives have only gotten stupider since then.
I don’t believe he’s trying to appeal to his base. He doesn’t actually need them to stay in power anymore…
He holds all the cards, the chips, the whole damn casino. This is him spending his remaining years securing his power through the disruption of middle class wealth.
The end goal is world domination and bringing about the rapture by killing all non white non Christian people. You can't dominate the world without controlling it.
It really feels like the strategy (if there even is one) is to collapse the economy and render the current bureaucracy incapable of dealing with the fallout. It provides him and the other oligarchs cover to start dividing up what’s left and set up a dictatorship out of the ashes.
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They also think Texas can secede and defeat both the federal govt and Mexico in wars of conquest
To the median voter: I was complaining about eggs because it seemed more reasonable than saying I miss saying "retard" without my niece getting mad
To Trump: you are the Great Khan who will unify North America by doing a 1899 but dumber
His company stocked up on 2 years of Canadian goods so he’s really expecting to see great results from these tariffs…
It has indigenous people, but Denmark - which is who Trump actually has beef with - is incredibly white.
Any strategic value Greenland has also pales in comparison with the dozens of US bases within the EU, which he is risking.
He believes that Canada will fail if tariffs are implemented, meaning their only alternative would be joining the United States
Is it a delusional view? Yea, but it's not a miscalculation from a popularity POV as it was never really about popularity
Trying to justify the thought process behind someone who very clearly does not think at all will never explain anything.
None of it makes sense without the most absurd thing being the truth.
Conservatives have bad media literacy, they didn't understand it was an ironic joke, so they really think people hate Canada that much
Conservatives are absolutely willing to throw other white countries under the bus if it suits their propaganda. I remember Freedom Fries. And conservatives have only gotten stupider since then.
He holds all the cards, the chips, the whole damn casino. This is him spending his remaining years securing his power through the disruption of middle class wealth.
Evangelists are fucking crazy.