Some famous tech podcasters talking about how the Tesla protests are one thing but Starlink losing business would be a bigger deal. FWIW- they missed this. It's already happening. mexicodailypost.com/2025/02/24/c... - ThreadSky

lorak.bsky.social • 1 day ago

Some famous tech podcasters talking about how the Tesla protests are one thing but Starlink losing business would be a bigger deal. FWIW- they missed this. It's already happening. https://mexicodailypost.com/2025/02/24/carlos-slim-orders-to-cancel-his-collaboration-with-elon-musks-starlink/

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coletteaustin.bsky.social•1 day ago

The EU urgently needs to fast-track its IRIS2 system to compete with Starlink in Europe … Europeans will gleefully drop Starlink like a hot potato as soon as they can.

aibo-zonny.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hate don't sell....in the UK🇬🇧

myassesdragon.bsky.social•1 day ago

Famous tech podcasters are idiots.
Tesla losing 30% in sales in a month is by far more significant.
Starlink's gross revenue is 1/8 of Tesla's.

colette-xyz.bsky.social•1 day ago

Maybe we should also be concerned about tying our future to Starlink.

holdontoyourbutts.bsky.social•20 hours ago

Thank you for posting this. I live in Mexico. I'm so very proud to live here.

justnews4you.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Is this aligned for when the FAA did its space x deal?

bennacar.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thus is fantastic news!

ljohnnie60.bsky.social•1 day ago

See p**** Republicans this is how it's done!

goldengateblond.bsky.social•1 day ago

is this real? I deleted a post about it bc that source pointed to some outlet I’d never heard of, and I couldn’t find the story elsewhere

j357l.bsky.social•1 day ago

This news about the decision of Carlos Slim has been around for a few days now.

goldengateblond.bsky.social•1 day ago

yeah what I’m saying is I couldn’t find it in a source I already knew and trusted, which made me doubt its veracity

jaec.bsky.social•1 day ago

what the article says is that they were in talks -since last octuber- to hire Starlink services for América Móvil, and that those talks were halted. The figure of 7 billion is what Musk lost because of the Tesla shares dropping "the day after" Slim talked about Musk

https://www.milenio.com/negocios/slim-echa-pa-acuerdos-con-starlink-y-musk-pierde-mas-de-7-mil-mdd

goldengateblond.bsky.social•1 day ago

ahhh I see — that’s not really how the translation read, thanks!

jaec.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://www.milenio.com/negocios/slim-echa-pa-acuerdos-con-starlink-y-musk-pierde-mas-de-7-mil-mdd

jaec.bsky.social•1 day ago

(I know that Milenio looks like a phishing site—almost all of our Mexican newspaper websites do.)

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

But it doesn't take a lot of work to figure out Milenio is well established and professional. (Iirc that's the original story that the aggregator referred back to making the story more accessible to English-language readers in the US.)

goldengateblond.bsky.social•1 day ago

I was just so surprised none of the US outlets picked it up at all!

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

speaking for myself - i needed & sought confirmation from the telco on finality of decision and didn't have enough direct info to report on it yet but would like to know more & do a story. surprised bloggers didn't however. (they're more free to 'curate' without checking.)

reverendjesus.com•1 day ago

Because they love Donald Trump

jaec.bsky.social•1 day ago

yep, they are a legitimate outlet. But all Mexican newspaper websites suck.

wsullydun.bsky.social•1 day ago

I saw it on MSN but not seeing it many other places

starbucksjunkee.bsky.social•1 day ago

I listened to a well-known tech expert and entrepreneur talk about Starlink taking a hit from Musk’s antics on the Pivot podcast. 😎

rini1983.bsky.social•1 day ago

Too bad American Mòvil isn't far enough to take over that contract with Ukraine.

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

(Before anyone asks - I'm not naming and shaming anyone here. It's not like some malfeasance to miss a story. But they just missed this news from earlier last month out of Mexico.) It's a really big deal that large foreign companies & governments may not feel they can rely on SpaceX/Starlink though.

barrydahl.bsky.social•1 day ago

I listened to that this morning. At the time I thought that they recorded their podcast before this happened. Looks like that's not the case, and that they just missed it.

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

or maybe they wanted confirmation because the outlet reporting it wasn't familiar to them - again a reason i'm not naming and shaming.

zoesamuel.bsky.social•1 day ago

A Dem House could potentially bork any future contracts with the US government, too.

thedude1.bsky.social•1 day ago

They're going to bork Elon from SpaceX

andkenbrbr.bsky.social•1 day ago

Slim was openly mocking Musk some weeks ago, by the way: https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2025/02/10/mexico/video/carlos-slim-conferencia-2025-apuesta-musk-marte-panorama-mundial-tv

lfillingham.bsky.social•20 hours ago

Elon had shared a tweet saying Slim was connected to Mexican cartels. Evidence? Slim is a very rich man in Mexico.

lmhinh.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Total projection. Elon & Stephen Miller gutted the DOJ unit that enforces the Foreign Corrupt Practices. It’s more likely that they’re collaborating with cartels.

tubbles.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Because Musk called him a criminal with ties to the cartels. Musk is a loser and no amount of money will ever make him cool.

carlye666.bsky.social•1 day ago

Accuses his billionaire collaborator of being involved in crime - because That’s what geniuses do.

fatbaldboomer.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://youtu.be/5EDKRGkgLsI?si=OIqj5h6POYyN1_TS&t=1979

janetlinde.bsky.social•1 day ago

Elon is a perfect example of the guy with "lots of G2 but no gee whiz." His mind is capable of understanding more than the average person when it comes to technology. But gets a flunking grade on personal interactions and getting along with other people.

privateideation.bsky.social•21 hours ago

I’m not sure he even gets that much credit. He’s not an engineer, he never finished his degree, he got rich from PayPal and got pushed out for being delusional. Since then he’s largely been a money guy who buys someone else’s existing tech.

thedenature.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Are there any other outlets covering this story? I’m not familiar with the Mexico Daily Post.

lorak.bsky.social•22 hours ago

can you please read the discussion before asking folks to google that for you next time? https://bsky.app/profile/lorak.bsky.social/post/3ljg6digbl22f

thedenature.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Apologies.
I neglected my due diligence.

lorak.bsky.social•22 hours ago

it’s ok - that site is an aggregator that curates & writes in english on biggest stories out of mexico. it was citing others’ reporting. i shared for expedience bc it is a no paywall & english language site. i’m just tired.

nromanek.bsky.social•1 day ago

I was like "What the hell do Francis Coppola and Elon Musk have in common??"

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

neal.

nromanek.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sorry.

tmfassociates.bsky.social•1 day ago

Clearly there's a reaction. However, the numbers don't make sense https://bsky.app/profile/tmfassociates.bsky.social/post/3lj6vctkfik2r

esghound.com•1 day ago

If you use the conversion rate to pesos of about 20:1 it makes a lot more sense

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

yep - please note - the publication is based in Mexico.

esghound.com•1 day ago

do they use a dollar sign? What's the convention in MX media?

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

here's a major news site in mexico someone shared above - better one to site: Slim echa “pa’trás” acuerdos con Starlink y Musk pierde más de 7 mil millones de dólares en medio de apuesta https://www.milenio.com/negocios/slim-echa-pa-acuerdos-con-starlink-y-musk-pierde-mas-de-7-mil-mdd

neil8noregon.bsky.social•1 day ago

Now how can I get it out of my car, I bought it used and it came with it

fricker.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is there a list of all the companies that use Starlink that could be used as a resource for those who are interested in boycotts and applying other types of public pressure?

deweydiva1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Can someone please post all the Starlink contracts and potential ones. Knowledge is power in this regard.

karehew.bsky.social•1 day ago

Never thought in a million years i would want verizon to win

kamala95.bsky.social•1 day ago

Truthfully this is a smart move for any nation. U can’t rely on Musk in any partnership. Guy is too chemically dependent (clearly).

katharinenoll.bsky.social•1 day ago

😊

marplin.bsky.social•1 day ago

We need United Airlines to stop their rollout of Starlink.

boaconstrictor.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Delicious

cole0007.bsky.social•1 day ago

Read reports that musk switched off parts of Starlink stopping Ukraine targeting Russian ships . I don’t see how any company can use a product that someone has total control over

terrifiedstill2024.bsky.social•1 day ago

Excellent!

no-privacy.bsky.social•1 day ago

The #SpaceMob (investors in @ast-science.com) has been following this story in detail because it has huge implications for the D2D market. I believe it will be a "winner take most" situation and SpaceX has essentially pissed away $500M+ on their effort. Their tech is weak and MNO's don't want them.

lorak.bsky.social•1 day ago

that's important perspective. thanks.

no-privacy.bsky.social•13 hours ago

My timing was good…

https://bsky.app/profile/vodafonegroup.bsky.social/post/3ljhkhhp2gc27

no-privacy.bsky.social•1 day ago

Here is the larger context for how the major European MNO’s view Starlink D2D. https://bsky.app/profile/no-privacy.bsky.social/post/3lil3zg4tuk26

no-privacy.bsky.social•1 day ago

When you also look at the expanded markets in Africa and South America that the European MNO’s are operating in it’s clear that $ASTS has a massive opportunity to sweep the board. 👀 on the 🏆 I like to say. The MNOs are the prize.

no-privacy.bsky.social•1 day ago

The SpaceX valuation most certainly includes very generous revenue estimates for their D2D business. What happens to their $350B private valuation if that market is much smaller than expected. 🤔

no-privacy.bsky.social•1 day ago

The economics of LEO satellites favor constellations that can be utilized on a global basis to maximize revenue. Getting shut out from major countries / regions means their satellites generate far less revenue per orbit and worse $ returns. Starlink has/had a dominant position but now??? jury is out

rorol.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Excellent

carriequite.bsky.social•1 day ago

💙✊

sonofherby.bsky.social•1 day ago

The other thing with DOGE, if that's the quality of Elmo and friends companies, if I was a malicious hacker group, I'd be crashing cars and de-orbiting satellites, or at least trying to.
One idiot even posted sensitive data to his GitHub.

haveyouanywool.bsky.social•1 day ago

From the linked article: "Elon Musk shared a post on his social network stating that Slim could have ties to criminal groups, and five minutes later, Carlos Slim canceled all business collaborations with Starlink in Latin America, which made Musk lose 7 billion US dollars."

haveyouanywool.bsky.social•1 day ago

"An hour later, Slim announced that he would transfer his projects for the next 5 years with Starlink, an investment of 22 billion dollars, to companies in China and Europe."

Two can play at this game, Elon!

mikesand.bsky.social•22 hours ago

The extremely tight turnaround indicates it wasn't because of. musk's post, but that Musk got a heads up and was trying to get in front of it.

It's logistically impossible to make those moves in minutes or hours. It must have been already in the works and starting.

haveyouanywool.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Musk seems to lash out with ridiculous insults if he feels someone is crossing him (like calling the heroic cave diver a "pedo" when Musk's stupid suggestion of a submersible to rescue the kids stranded in the Thai cave was rejected as unworkable).

glennf.com•5 hours ago

This is like nectar to me.

chrononaut.bsky.social•1 day ago

Same with Italy, which until very recently was considering a big deal with Starlink for encrypted government communications.

smartchae.bsky.social•1 day ago

This completely depends on the desired outcome. Starlink losing business would be the best first step for international security and peace but IMO the more important and immediate goal is to get Elon’s phone blowing up with margin calls. THAT is the first domino that can/will knock the rest down.

smartchae.bsky.social•1 day ago

(Not to mention that the public can work together to tank Tesla MUCH more easily than they can to take Starlink. Shaming and protesting corporations and countries for being locked into a legal contract won’t change much.)

privateideation.bsky.social•21 hours ago

At the scale you’re talking about a lot of contracts have relatively little in the way of teeth. What are you going to do if a nation state says “national security” and cancels the contract the way Musk has been cancelling contracts?

smartchae.bsky.social•19 hours ago

To be honest I don’t know much about the contracts themselves and am operating under the assumption that Musk will litigate and intimidate at full force.

tschilai.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Also very much not a pro, but I'd assume that "this is a crucial service and you've proven that it will never be reliable since you might choose to disable it whenever you decide you want to" is a pretty solid reason to cancel a contract.

smartchae.bsky.social•1 day ago

*tank Starlink

kgsbca.bsky.social•1 day ago

I don't see how tesla sales dropping by 50% or more won't be a big deal. They will have a lot of unused capacity that won't be good for profits.

lorak.bsky.social•21 hours ago

both are big deals. people paying recurring fees for the starlink service though would be giving up something that may be harder to replace for now.

klonick.bsky.social•1 day ago

Thank fucking god.

jeredh.bsky.social•1 day ago

It certainly seems like some kind of Starlink takedown would be important with or without Musk being involved. https://www.wired.com/story/starlink-scam-compounds/

sbh08mae.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is a satisfying read!

citizen12345.bsky.social•1 day ago

Who would put themselves in the position to rely on starlink after Musk threatened to turn off services to Ukraine if they didn’t cede territory to Russia and sign a minerals deal that likely hugely favors the US?

mikesand.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Yeah who would possibly rely on Musk at this point. Every competitor for his services is getting a boost every day he goes on

manitou202.bsky.social•1 day ago

Democrats need to message that all funding for Mars and Moon missions should be completely cut. If we can’t afford to take care of the people of our country, and continue to support bio and scientific research, then going to the moon should be the lowest priority. Not funding Elon’s pet project.

mikesand.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Moon and Mars missions are not very much of SpaceX business. US military and commercial satellites are most of it. There is also good science outside of the manned missions. Regardless, should push to alternatives.

manitou202.bsky.social•22 hours ago

The Artemis funding may be a smaller portion of their business ($2.8-$4.4B), but essentially the government is funding the development of Starship. The entire program is turning into a boondoggle, particularly Starship. That should be first on the chopping block.

smuuchii.bsky.social•19 hours ago

this

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