I’m not arguing against the shutdown. My argument is that it’s not right to say that only wonks remember them.
Shutdowns cause harm: TRUE
It is the right thing to do: TRUE
We don’t need to pretend that the two statements are mutually exclusive when they’re not.
I agree with you there. My point -- which I should have clarified -- is that the larger voting public doesn't remember them. Which is what the elected officials are so worried about.
This is undoubtedly true for government employees, whom I don’t want to ignore, but the median voter doesn’t remember, and in theory that’s who is being targeted with this capitulation strategy. Federal workers have asked for a shutdown over letting Musk continue.
Oh I totally agree that this time it’s worth doing. But looking backwards, I think a lot of people conflate the shutdown battles with actual shutdowns and think it’s not as big of a deal as it is. But it’s never been more necessary than now.
I’m not arguing against this shutdown. I think it’s absolutely necessary. But I don’t think arguments minimizing the damage are helpful. If I were to get a late paycheck, I’d probably also be paying bills late and backpay doesn’t come with extra funds to cover late fees. There’s still harm done.
I’m a political junkie & I don’t remember the 2013 one at all (& I was 32, so no “I was too young” excuse) & remember 2018/19 b/c we were hiking in WNC after Christmas & storms had closed a road in Pisgah Nat’l Forest. So my guess would be not many voters remember/know.
I wanna say three but there's a chance of more? One was recent, one was during Parks and Rec, a third one in between there somewhere. Maybe others that were shorter
Trump's trying to create a war with someone. Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Panama, EU. Why in the hell would Dems give him more money to carry out his perverse dream of being a 'war general'? #TrumpWar
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You may eventually catch the bulls and remove them, but you will never be able to put all that smashed china back together.
If they can't function, how will illegal EO from POTUS be fought?
I've been through it multiple times before over things that are far less consequential than the literal fate of democracy in the US.
Shutdowns cause harm: TRUE
It is the right thing to do: TRUE
We don’t need to pretend that the two statements are mutually exclusive when they’re not.
I know it's no-win. But that doesn't mean we don't show up to fight.
Can’t even leave vmail for chuck schumer!!!