They are going to target dems for audits & let rich republicans off the hook to scam their way out of paying. This will be on top of all the additional tax breaks for the ultra rich that are coming shortly! Bankrupt the govt so they can cut more social programs like social security, medicare, etc.
There is no legitimate reason for them to have access to our personal financial information. The question I have is what are they really trying to accomplish? We already know that snap decisions are being made on staffing without considering the ramifications of those decisions or data security.
I can see Musk pushing Republican House and Senate buttons to see how far they'll debase themselves in obsequious acquiescence to Trump & more Musk's rule.
Just read this in WaPo. Then why are we filing taxes this year? We should all protest by not filing. And by seeking a lawyer fighting this. It’s gone too far.
Every one of these kids Musk is sending into these agencies is being granted access to info that foreign governments would love to have, making them prime targets for espionage recruitment or coercion.
I STILL don’t understand how nobody can stop them NOW, before they have a chance to access our files. If the judiciary curtails access -and that’s a big ‘if’- AFTER they’ve gotten their mitts on the info, as they did with the Treasury, then it’s too late. UNREAL.
In your backyard/In a safe/Under your mattress. Anywhere but a bank. They can get to it all. I don't care where it is. For a deposit that size, you run afoul of IRS/Patriot Act for any withdrawal over (I think) $5,000. Plus, you would have to pre-arrange with bank so they have funds available. 1/
So, check with your bank and find out what the rules are. You could go to an ATM & Take out the max. 10 million people taking $500/$1000 every ten days or so on the same day might get their attention. 😜 /fin
Former anti-money laundering consultant here- doing one withdrawal of $10000 would involve a Currency Transaction Report, but there’s no issue with it as long as you provide the info. Pulling out large amounts under that threshold over time is called structuring and is textbook something they flag
2/ If you’re a govt worker who has more info on what's happening here you can reach me via encrypted mail at joshtpm (at) protonmail dot com or via Signal at joshtpm dot 99. Please only use these encrypted channels for confidential communication.
I’m expecting a refund- not sure how much, probably not a lot- but will definitely have it sent to a bank account I don’t use for much instead of my main one. Just in case. Tho who knows, they probably have info from years past saved and AUGH.
Just send it to the one you have already shared with the irs. Then move all your money to a new account. Close the old one as soon as your refund arrives.
They’ll justify taking the 2nd amendment away by saying it’s to get guns away from liberals, lgbtq, and immigrants.
I wonder what their staunch pro gun groups will do
They are going to make us poor and sick first so it's harder to fight back then if he can't control us through the courts he will absolutely attack blue states he knows Democrats are only thing in his way now he let all those j6 people loose for a reason to be his thug army
Their incompetence & ineptitude will ultimately lead them to failure long term.
Short term I can’t see anything but disarray & disaster.
I think musky is going to try & ditch dumpy. Even if he fails he’s got too much data 😩
I really hope you are right and I'm not but I don't see trump giving up power at all he wants revenge and make us suffer remember he said they will never have to vote again and musk has to destroy government now he's already broken lots of laws he's in trumps pocket
Ppl talk a lot of bullshit, I think they truly believe their own lies but if they had real power they wouldn’t be doing a smash and grab, that is smashing shit they need.
trump isn't in power now. it's been easy to set him up at the Oval with his Diet Coke valet and some markers so he believes he's in charge. he's nothing more than a figurehead and I guess musk, Vance, thiel etc believe MAGA will happily transfer their affections and loyalty.
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Normally a long time b/c of id'ing all the plaintiffs. In this case, it's all people & organizations that pay taxes. Drafting a preliminary suit with TRO & filing shouldn't take too long.
Thanks so much for answering. If some savvy lawyers wanted to get on this I think they'd have a stampede of plaintiffs signing on (hint, hint, attorneys).
Haha! Didn't realize you were a lawyer! Honestly, please look into it. We need recourse. Our personal information is in the hands of Elon Musk and a guy called Big Balls. You can't make this stuff up.
ELON MUSK is a NAZI SCUM criminal who believes in Hitler’s NAZI Ideology. He is a puppet for china/Russia. He is a national security threat. He’s a malignant narcissist,psychopathic lunatic,sociopath & megalomanic. He’s trying to robb all our money & destroy America. He is insane & dangerous
whatever, demicrats ignored iberals for 40 years and cheated against hillary. Its niot ouir place to save them,its our place to genty subtle mnsake then figh t to the death and piss on the ashes the way they did to us
Everything is getting worse, nothing is getting better, and Jefferies/Schumer are hellbent on calling all of this a distraction because they are not convinced "total opposition" is a majority opinion yet even among Democrats.
demicrats bought into it. But we dionteven have to go there,they sopent thelast 8 years treating liberals like shit,l Now i;'[ll spend the rest of my life treatingt them like shit
GAO estimates annual amount of fraud in gov't programs is btwn $233B and $521B. Yet the annual cost of tax fraud & abuse is 36% to a whopping 205% more than that.
But does Trump or Elon even mention fixing tax fraud & abuse? No. They want to make the IRS "efficient" by firing people.🤦🏻♂️
they're getting rid of anyone who could go after oligarchs; they fired a bunch last week, the ones especially trained for the complex returns of criminals
how much of our money is idling offshore? taken out of the economy, avoiding taxation? gotta be $trillions
that's what Elmo wants - people who opted for direct deposit of their IRS refund, and cheerfully provided their account number and bank routing number. it's right there in their return. ask the City of New York what happens when Elmo gets this information.
Why? To bust some person for a $1000? Just don’t give the rich a break; make them pay more. Or go to a flat tax. Nazis. Fascists. Oligarchy. Stop the insanity NOW.
Efficient way for Musk to get detailed information on competitors (corporations and individuals). Clever guy, eh? And apparently unstoppable. I'm angry about this, and even angrier than there is not a forceful response.
Hey, Republicans in Congress, I think it is time to take action! Oh, I forgot that the Republican Congress forfeited its power to Musk! How about US Marshall? Please help stop Musk from stealing our data. Musk's actions are an invasion of our privacy!
How the fuck did we get here. Are the people that voted for this shit ok with this? My guess is NO do where are they in terms of speaking up. this whole country needs to stop paying taxes effective Monday Presidents Day. Just don’t do it
its no worse than hilary was treated. They klaughed and joked about that, and still treat liberals like shit. Trumop treats them like shit. And otys their fauklt they damn weoklkl bettert fix it befoire i get there
No good can come of any of this data theft. It will either be sold to foreign entities or it will be used against the American people collectively or individually in the future. Similar to all their FOIA requests, this is how they build lists and will be able to dox or delete anyone deemed an enemy.
demicrats didnt care wheb they wenbt after hilarys data. So tey love it when the gvernment steakls theirt dfata lies about themand throws theior nasty nazi ass inb guantanamo,Its what they live for
Whoever said "we are not there yet" as having a constitutional crisis is a piece of shit!! We have been underseige, and no one bats an eye! And then this?? People wake the fuck up!!
Start w/this fascist: "Gavin Kliger, a DOGE software engineer, arrived unannounced at IRS headquarters on Thursday and was named senior adviser to the acting commissioner."
Yes, he's the same one who was palling around with Nick Fuentes, et al.
From Musk’s minions straight into Trump’s hands. People are going to resist filing their income tax returns. This is so grotesquely damaging. What could that information possibly have to do with DOGE’s ostensible mandate?
"A Trump administration official said DOGE personnel needed IDRS access because DOGE staff are working to “eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse, and improve government performance to better serve the people.”
This is a pathetic response that does not in any way address the need to access personal data
Yet it was completely unacceptable to have funds for additional IRS employees to be able to access this data to find fraud and waste. It’s almost as if it was never about more scrutiny.
Probably looking for everyone who claimed tax deductions for progressive causes to a) roll back the deductions or b) cross reference to federal employees to fire them. Yes it can be both.
It long overdue for Dems to get off their asses and start acting like this nation is in a fucking crisis! They should be holding news conferences everyday on as many outlets! Do something FFS!
Just sent an email off to my Congressman. Told him Hell to the no, our personal info is not for sale, to impeach Trump, deport Elon and wake up his GOP colleagues !
But Lord Elon needs that to determine if we are actually some form of waste fraud or abuse and then he can terminate us in the name of efficiency and liberate the government from our existence.
Musk's primary conflict of interest has always been with his X payment system. That was a conflict as early as DOGE's getting access to Treasury's systems, but for some reason, the media didn't pick up on it until the CFPB interference. But it affects the majority of what he's been doing.
Oh yeah. In DC and locally. I called 4 different numbers to get someone to answer, to see if my Rep was having Town Hall or otherwise being present during recess this week. (Of course not.)
You mean the same nimrods who leaked confidential data? The same fuckwads that accidentally fired the people who oversee our nuclear armaments? Oh, yeah, I'm not worried at all. If I'm in the Truman Story, I want the fuck out!
What are the possibilities here, is he seizing refunds, snooping on enemies, revoking tax exempt status of charities/ngos, deleting trump's returns permanently?
Well, maybe it’s time for us to withhold our tax payments to the government until they can prove they are responsible with our money. So far that’s not happening.
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Where could that money be deposited where Musk would not be able to touch it?
I wonder what their staunch pro gun groups will do
Short term I can’t see anything but disarray & disaster.
I think musky is going to try & ditch dumpy. Even if he fails he’s got too much data 😩
Seriously, though, I'm considering ringing up a colleague in DC.
No, I couldn't even have imagined it even though I was well aware of their plans. Big Balls, ffs!
Let me see if I can get through. I'm sure they're buried. I'll report back if I hear anything.
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I'm apparently not criminal enough to imagine why Elon would need this.
But does Trump or Elon even mention fixing tax fraud & abuse? No. They want to make the IRS "efficient" by firing people.🤦🏻♂️
#DOGE #DODGE
how much of our money is idling offshore? taken out of the economy, avoiding taxation? gotta be $trillions
But I really think we should see theirs.
these are professionals, right?
https://fortune.com/2025/02/07/musks-doge-teen-edward-coristine-fired-cybersecurity-internship-leaking-company-secrets/
Once they have this data, it's Check Mate.
You have the power and responsibility to stop them.
Plz hurry!
Yes, he's the same one who was palling around with Nick Fuentes, et al.
This is a pathetic response that does not in any way address the need to access personal data
I've asked for evidence of any wastefraudorabuse and they become incredulous. "musk told us so!"
from their state of perpetual audit
2. But this could also be related to Musk wanting to make Twitter a universal government app, where you need to submit all of your data yourself if you want to use any government services.
https://bsky.app/profile/chrononaut.bsky.social/post/3lidjxgvtws2o
https://bsky.app/profile/chrononaut.bsky.social/post/3lbcl7fp47k2v
#MuskRats
He'd totally hide a Zombie bite