I’m with you. But perhaps fair to say it *can* be an art form? Using pencils can be an art form, or it can not, depending on usage, intent, etc. So can using paint, etc.
How do we point to the human in the loop and their ineffable contribution and focus less on tools?
I’m more of a technomancer - with an ability to communicate with inanimate objects and bend them to my will (computers, drones, undergrads …). Less Hogwarts, more Spellsinger.
You can't get around your merge request being denied by calling it "art." You must follow the coding style set in our company's contract with the customer.
Yup. A science
Artists do use coding, but that doesn’t always make it an art.
Film making is an art but that doesn’t mean the films carpenter working to a blueprint is an artist.
The results/running of some programs are exhibited in art galleries, some are shown in museums.
it is creative though.
To me it's more like a mechanic fixing/making a car (when where not talking about just code, but about software/hardware piled up together to achieve some functional goal)
What part of programming? I feel like programming is an art in the way brick laying is an art. It isn't artistic for arts sake but as a discipline I think it shares characteristics.
True, except people can appreciate an unfinished painting, but can't appreciate code until it's finished. They'll also excessively complain about any mistakes instead of excusing them as a stylistic choice.
I did the ultimate piece art. Nine years my code ran for, no bugs no crashes. The only time they looked at the code was when they migrated it from ASP to C#.
I got into programming originally because I was never creative, more logical, but I've changed my mind on that. You need to be creative enough to see solutions to problems that don't exist yet.
One of the first things I learned when learning programming in my old company is that programming is not an art form.
It's engineering. You follow rigid rules and you code uniform to the existing standards until you get good enough to code to make your own standards out of logic, math and reason.
Programming is communication. It can be functional, precise, elegant, robust…organized, complete… but art? I dunno… art is a finished piece. I don’t know much code I think of as “set in stone”.
Well...
My brief foray into programming I would agree it is an art form. Understanding the problem, communicating with the machine, and judging the results if it solved the problem.
This was at the firmware level.
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How do we point to the human in the loop and their ineffable contribution and focus less on tools?
• Programming is like model rockets
• Software Engineering is like SpaceX
programming is an ant farm
But I agreed with it immediately.
ant farm
Embrace the dark themes in your programming environment of choice.
Sacrifice a fullstack bootcamper on the altar of untyped languages.
Artists do use coding, but that doesn’t always make it an art.
Film making is an art but that doesn’t mean the films carpenter working to a blueprint is an artist.
The results/running of some programs are exhibited in art galleries, some are shown in museums.
it is creative though.
I've seen engineers do glorious things in 10 lines of Python. That is goddamn art.
it helped them to get a job.
It's engineering. You follow rigid rules and you code uniform to the existing standards until you get good enough to code to make your own standards out of logic, math and reason.
some problems need some wildly out of the box thinking and some forms of artwork very much require a lot of programming to achieve
my post is also too short to contain the real point: the end result is often a bigger piece of art than the code itself
Or :
Before : nothing.
After : some-thing.
I trip on raspberry Pi in this time
you had to get every single piece right before you shipped the game
My brief foray into programming I would agree it is an art form. Understanding the problem, communicating with the machine, and judging the results if it solved the problem.
This was at the firmware level.
mathematics
chemistry
physics
geometry
all of them can be programmed
they have a pattern
this is a very big discovery in computer science
about what i just said