Meloni is more like an old-school American conservative. Not my cup of tea, but nothing inherently wrong with that.
It's more telling that MAGAs sees themself as "conservatives", even though they're not. Not even close.
Meloni is well aware of that and plays them like a fiddle IMO.
No. She isn’t. Meloni entered politics at age 15 as an activist in the youth section of MSI, a party created in 1946 by veterans of the Italian Social Republic as a home for those nostalgic for the defeated Fascist regime. Started by Giorgio Almirante, who was a well known Mussolini journal editor.
In the sense that she is a postfascist reactionary which got to power thanks to the gullibility of my peers, which are - not by chance - on average on the bottom half in education amongst European countries. I am disgusted and would be ashamed, if it was not for the fact i left italy some time ago.
Basically because Meloni is a nicely dressed neo-fascist. Bt she knows that Italy needs the EU a lot more than the EU needs Italy. So she'll say many things which MAGAtypes like, but be vastly more circumspect in practice.
Probably speed reading incorrectly. IME it’s possible to understand a passage fully while speed reading but one must read the first and last letters of a word, not just the first few. When someone reading only the half sees “circum” they assume it relates to dongs. Just the balance of probability
based on prevalence of the word(s) and because of the ubiquitous nature of consumable content, one is inclined to scroll as fast as they can to see it all. Combine that with the refusal to doubt the first impression gleaned by their first glance with their own eyes and it all lines up.
Oops I think I did that thing where I took a joke comment seriously and analyzed it without realizing everything I just typed is common sense and I have wasted both of our time. Curse my perfect level of buzz and my love of writing shit! Probably some autism thrown in there too.
She's a wannabe fascist and a BIIIG fan of 🍊🤡
And on the picture, she's just happy, than 'Eyeliner' Vance presumably doesn't smell as much as Felon47...
Not one of this bunch of idiots has an ounce of integrity. Words have no value to them, they don't consider their impact, they literally just spout what comes into their tiny, warped minds in the moment. So really, why would anyone bother to listen, never mind believe.
Might have some to do with her "political leanings", lol.
The Vatican did, however, treat him with the "respect" he deserves. No public meeting with The Pope, and a punlic smackdown regarding Trump's policies.
Italy is officially an ally with respect to its membership in NATO, but if Felon 47 keeps pissing that organization off, we'll see how long that lasts.
I love Italy I’ve visited there frequently in the last 20 years but not since she has been in power. I think subconsciously it’s because of her. I miss it and look forward to returning when she’s gone.
Vance of course failed to notice Meloni flew the 🇪🇺 flag next to the 🇮🇹 flag in the background. After her unfortunate decision to remain silent in the Oval Office while Trump repeated his lie that Ukraine 🇺🇦 started the war, it is good to see her confirm Italy's position as a major EU member state.
Italians hate Trump,JD Vance and specially Elon Musk and most of the Italians don't like Meloni because a fascist and she is like Trump that likes propaganda
But for being installed by Putin, she is extremely pro-Ukraine and the biggest advocate of Zelenskyy. But yes, she is extremely right-wing and a little blonde fascist.
Otherwise, the CF47 fascist regime would want nothing to do with Meloni & would view her as DEI. Like images of Caesar at CPAC, the CF47 regime seems to be oblivious to how things ended for Mussolini in the town square.
The story I read in Italy while she was campaigning said she was. Muselini's granddaughter, so you can blame the Italian press for that bit of misinformation.
Honestly, their papers make the American media look GOOD! It's like reading a God dam soap opera script! Still, they do print some truth in their papers. In regards to if people are related or not. They think who is related to who to be VERY important. That's why I believed she was his granddaughter
The story I read in Italy while she was campaigning said she was. Muselini's granddaughter, so you can blame the Italian press for that bit of misinformation.
The story I read in Italy while she was campaigning said she was. Muselini's granddaughter, so you can blame the Italian press for that bit of misinformation.
He's been shaken by the Pope envoy. He figures he must play nice for the rest of his stay if he doesn't want to be kicked out, again, this time by the Italians.
Nevertheless, she was out of herself during her visit with Trump. It's not Hungry, but Italy. I don't think she wanted to be there, but she was on a mission by Ursula von der Leyen, president of the EU. Somehow, she must have some democratic affinity with the rest of Europe
I have family in the south of Italy most of them have the good sense to hate right wing psychopaths but they have a way of tapping the small brains of insecure little men and the women that stand by them.
Because their leader has fascist leanings. Though probably not as much as ours. But that's the main difference between Italy and a couple of the other big European nations.
That was the red line for you? Not the fact that she's a literal fascist? In any case, she is, like most of the European leadership, very vocally pro-Ukraine and deeply anti-Putin, so I'd hardly call it obeying in advance.
Ron, we all on your side here. We all hate JD Vance.
But ffs, that is the most innocuous quote you could have found. You're really stretching to find fault with an ordinary diplomatic photo op and greeting between national leaders.
Please. Meloni couldn't get away with half the shit Trump has, even if she tried. The Italian opposition parties wouldn't just roll over and take it for one thing.
She‘s a Right Wing-Borderline-Democrat testing the red Lines in the EU.
So she‘s what Trump would call a centrist.
For us AOC and Sanders are Centrists there is nothing left winged about their ideas, the Dems are conservatives by large and a real left Wing Party doesnt exist in the US.
Because Italians (chiedo scusa agli amici) can be the perfect pilatesque opportunists.
They’re willing to support Putin because, gas prices. Or Musk because of a whatever stance against immigration from Africa, etc.
And the rightwing Meloni gov’t embodies this, perfectly…
What he means is that it is also lead by a racist leader. The reincarnation of Mussolini and Hitler meet again in 2025! Congrats, we have learned nothing from the past!
EVERY Decent Person In The World - Especially Patriotic #Veterans Everywhere - KNOW That #JDVance Is A DESPICABLE PERSON-Who Has Forever SHAMED Himself, And Who Has Insulted ALL Military Service Members-Worldwide.
🇺🇸 🌍
Because she is an opportunist who will bend whichever way to gain favour. But her very few ideals align with them. When videos and article were published about infiltrating a youth group associated with her party that were neonazis, she didnt condem them but the journal that did the investigation.
My thoughts exactly! Also, I couldn’t quite understand why the the VP and wife had to fly (4,500 miles) to Italy for a meeting with the Italian Prime Minister Meloni, the day after meeting her in the WH?? 🤷♀️
she is also a fascist.... so they like each other. But she knows: europe is watching and italy will go down if she joins the US .... we really don't like fascists here in europe :D
I was going to be charitable and say that, bless him, he thinks that the EU is a separate entity to the constituent countries.
But it’s the fascism, isn’t it?
They will praise some individual European countries as 'great allies' etc, but they will denounce Europe, the EU, and euro institutions... They know what they're doing, theyre trying to undermine European collective action
Not wrong, but as we've seen, the shift happens extraordinarily quickly with this administration. Imagine all of the conversations we're not privy to. It must be whiplash producing, and that appears to be the point.
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It's more telling that MAGAs sees themself as "conservatives", even though they're not. Not even close.
Meloni is well aware of that and plays them like a fiddle IMO.
And also, at age 15 I thought that everything Ayn Rand wrote made perfect sense, so...
Most of them started talking about religion and their penises.
One person questioned what I really meant. He was cautious about giving the wrong response!
I’m a programmer with decades of (bitter?) experience. Every single character has to be inspected and considered to avoid eerros.
hometrump shootin holes in the boat as fast as he can reload
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/health-insurance-for-millions-on-chopping-block-obamacare-medicaid-expansion-republicans-mike-johnson
And on the picture, she's just happy, than 'Eyeliner' Vance presumably doesn't smell as much as Felon47...
L'Italia è un grande alleato perché Melonie è una brava leccatrice!
Italie est une grande alliée parce que Melonie a une bonne langue !
Anglais
The Vatican did, however, treat him with the "respect" he deserves. No public meeting with The Pope, and a punlic smackdown regarding Trump's policies.
J. Dalla Bianchi
"I went to Rome to meet the Pope, and all I got was a selfie with some mean girl".
We should make him a t-shirt.
🤝
fascist allies
There are reasons that man wears a beard.
One of MANY in that regime.
Guess what Meloni said. Indirect jibe at Felon47. "I'm proud of sitting here as prime minister of an
Italy that today has a very good situation - a stable country, a reliable country,"
At least she wore a suit
I hope what's happening in the US is a wake up call for Italians and that they will soon vote Meloni and her regime out of power.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/mussolinis-granddaughter-quits-melonis-party-saying-its-too-right-wing-2024-09-12/
They have forgotten the scourge of Mussolini !!
Fascists together
Looks painful, but maybe he's kinky that way.
You are thinking of Alessandra Mussolini.
I don't read Italian so I don't follow the Italian press.
Obeying in advance. Italy, you need to rethink your leadership.
But ffs, that is the most innocuous quote you could have found. You're really stretching to find fault with an ordinary diplomatic photo op and greeting between national leaders.
So she‘s what Trump would call a centrist.
For us AOC and Sanders are Centrists there is nothing left winged about their ideas, the Dems are conservatives by large and a real left Wing Party doesnt exist in the US.
They’re willing to support Putin because, gas prices. Or Musk because of a whatever stance against immigration from Africa, etc.
And the rightwing Meloni gov’t embodies this, perfectly…
The Dissent is in and Alito thinks we have a king, or should.
🇺🇸 🌍
Iykyk.
But it’s the fascism, isn’t it?