btw, I really really want them to implement your suggestion of grouping videos in the subscription feed so a single creator doesn't take over. and a way to just take me to a channel with a single click/tap from there. - ThreadSky

thomasfuchs.at • 1 day ago

btw, I really really want them to implement your suggestion of grouping videos in the subscription feed so a single creator doesn't take over.

and a way to just take me to a channel with a single click/tap from there.

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wojtek.be•1 day ago

my solution: i just use RSS (local miniflux) and see the list of subscriptions and videos groupped there :) (and it works without having google/yt account ;) )

nystrata.bsky.social•1 day ago

The really infuriating thing is that I remember a decade ago, *that existed*. They already did it!

Each channel would get have a horizontal row, and their newest videos would appear on the left of that row.

The rows themselves would be organized by channels that uploaded recently. It worked well!

sevenbrg.bsky.social•1 day ago

There's a reason I've avoided subbing to certain channels I watch a lot. They upload wayyyyy too frequently and just clutters my sub feed.

knowingbetter.nebula.tv•1 day ago

This is why I'm not subscribed to the PBS NewsHour. They upload their main episode, each segment of their main episode, and then the West version of the episode hosted by someone else.

@pbsnews.org

madacol.com•1 day ago

If you follow channels through RSS feeds, you can group them in folders, most RSS viewers have that option.

Getting the rss link of each channel is very well hidden, but there are lots of instructions online on how to reconstruct them

greatjoe.bsky.social•1 day ago

This feature exists for the 3rd party app FreeTube and it's amazing. So, at least there's a successful case study, if nothing else.

thlake.bsky.social•1 day ago

100%. I have had to unsubscribe from a few creators that I liked simply because their upload rate flooded my feed.

suddenoutbreak.bsky.social•1 day ago

YouTube still wears a bunch of its origins out in the open. There are weird gaps all over for a "search" company. For example: you can build up "playlists" of up to 5,000 videos, but can't restrict a search to only within one. "History" search is also laughably weak.

thomasfuchs.at•1 day ago

I mean you barely find anything in Google Search these days

clem-e.bsky.social•1 day ago

Let’s build a browser extension for that, then. (Will not work on mobile app though)

thomasfuchs.at•1 day ago

We lost so much moving to all apps

falufarmhouse.bsky.social•1 day ago

This. This is exactly why I don't use my subs feed. Its a mess. IE My local news uploading a million times a day is annoying and they take over my subs feed but I also don't want to unfollow them.

Implementing that would clean it all up so nicely.

blatrost.bsky.social•1 day ago

If you still want to follow them, even though they are messing up your feed, I can recommend the app GrayJay.

There you can divide your feeds into different groups, in addition to all the other good stuff it let's you.

https://grayjay.app/

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

Seriously, get over the hangup which makes it feel like a negative gesture and unsub from channels which are messing up the feed. If you watch them enough it's going to end up in your recommended feed anyway.

There's something about adapting to imperfect interfaces which I didn't touch on...

frodojj.bsky.social•1 day ago

I do this! 🙋‍♂️

ludovic.chabant.com•1 day ago

Yeah I have the same problem a K8 here and indeed been contemplating unsubscribing from those… it makes me sad to do that though which is why I’ve been procrastinating 😅

prrsignal.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'd go further and say that a subs feed should be reserved for the channels you both watch often*and* want to reward or demonstrate affinity with. I have a number of channels I like to watch on occasion, but I also don't want to reward the creator with a sub (for various reasons).

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

...since it felt way too prescriptive, but I'm honestly puzzled when people realize "this uploader is a problem in this feed which I would like to use" but don't take the step to unsubscribe from that uploader.

You are in control of that feed. Don't let others ruin its usefulness.

jamesfbrophy.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is a usecase you may be missing? I wanted to know what the thumbnails and topics were for some people but never watch their videos.

I was staying subscribed to a person who had been a reasonable fellow but had become this sulking ball of hate in toy fandom to see what he was complaining about

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm not missing that use case, it's just different from the problem we're discussing here.

clibourne.org•1 day ago

I will say, Tumblr (in the Gregorian year 2025, yes) is a social media site that really does have this as a core social tenet.

Rarely, someone will leave a remark on a big blog asking them to stop posting in xyz ways and the entire community shames them for not just unfollowing.

why485.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Tumblr still being alive and actually being pretty good is one of the best kept social media secrets. Aside from the ads, it does A LOT right with regards to how I want to use social media. It's also the only social media I'm aware of with actually useful archival tools built in!

falufarmhouse.bsky.social•21 hours ago

The ads on Tumblr are soooo bad though.

anthraxcite.bsky.social•1 hour ago

It’s always kinda sad when you realise a creator posts more videos you don’t watch than videos you do. Feels like a betrayal but at the same time it ruins your feed.

derekalee.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well the problem creator for me is PBS Newsline. I don’t watch the videos often and they upload like 6+ videos a day. I don’t want to unsubscribe though, because I feel like follower count is one of those metrics that’s keeping the grant money coming (for now anyway).

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

This isn't to say I don't want better features! I hope that's clear.

I just... I get really uncomfortable when folks treat an interface which doesn't work exactly how they think it *should* as unusable.

davidopoulin.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is very real. I catch myself doing this often: "this app sucks! Where's the Chromecast button!?". Or some similar variant

brightpixelyt.bsky.social•1 day ago

This happens all the time with software. People trying out Resolve from Adobe complaining that it's shit because it isn't the same workflow.

Also people trying Cubase from Logic asking how they can setup key commands in Cubase to be the same as Logic.

Don't fight it and you'll have a better time.

wojtek.be•1 day ago

shouldn't UI/UX of the _tool_ be geared towards the users?

I feel like quite a lot of services try so hard to drive interactions they end up completely ignoring users needs…

vjgoh.bsky.social•1 day ago

You feel that because that’s what is happening. In general, I’m pretty sure the functionally that we want or enjoy is more or less an accident that was more work to shut down than let exist. (Or, occasionally, a legacy feature from a time where they WERE interested in making something good.)

thomasfuchs.at•1 day ago

I know you won't believe this but there's more nuance to it—I think it's sort of both YouTube's designers/product managers' and the frequent uploaders' fault. 😂

(I have in the past unsubscribed from channels that posted too frequently for exactly the reasons you mention. But I shouldn't have to.)

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

Oh no, I'm in full agreement.

It's not helped that the option to hide uploads from the subs feed is buried under "show more" in the upload process.

But knowing that the system isn't exactly how I want it to work, I adapt my own use of it to a satisfactory point and am not bothered.

heluecht.pirati.ca•1 day ago

I also think that the interface is okay. I only really want a filter for shorts, especially when I watch Youtube on my TV (via Chromecast). There these shorts really don't make any sense at all.

infernosquid.bsky.social•19 hours ago

Have you read "the design of everyday things" by Don Norman? I keep getting distracted and not finishing, but it talks a lot about designing things to minimize the gap between how it works and how users think it works.

weekend-warrior.bsky.social•1 day ago

it's because there's a gap between how the sub feed works and how users are told it works - it becomes unusable if it's used as a "super like", which is essentially what that "like and subscribe!" means.

techconnectify.bsky.social•1 day ago

I'm inclined to agree.

Honestly I think YouTube just doesn't do a good job of explaining what Subscribing is meant to be. If you use it as you would "follow" on other social media sites, it's not going to be a good experience.

Which is precisely why I wish YT would allow for finer controls.

cecilkorik.bsky.social•1 day ago

I decided to do the same thing for channels who upload many shorts. I don't want a short attention span and I don't like things that entice me to have one. I think shorts are harmful and it ruins Youtube's usefulness to me, so my subscriptions are reserved strictly for like-minded creators.

ischyrou.bsky.social•1 day ago

I wonder if people feel bad unsubscribing, but it's go direct feed back to the uploader no?

vkc.sh•1 day ago

I got around this little hangup by creating a second channel inside my one Google account and subscribing to frequent posters (like news orgs) there. Just switch accounts in the upper-right and it works better.

Still wish YouTube grouped subscriptions though.

thomasfuchs.at•1 day ago

Don't have the patience to do this lol

vkc.sh•1 day ago

Totally fair! Still feel like YouTube should fix it with some preferences.

etherealupthorn.bsky.social•1 day ago

But shouldn't we be seeking a solution that doesn't require the algorithmic recommendations feed at all?

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