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carlbergstrom.com • 44 days ago

I don't have anything snide or snarky to say here. I just think it's worth reading this article.

Gift link.

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Read this before..I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t had a whisper of an eery feeling in conversing with an LLM..even at this level-with apparently no sentience, goal-oriented behavior, longterm memory or persistence..they offer a window into a world where we could quickly become subsumed ..

cageyratfish.bsky.social•44 days ago

as a confirmed solitary with serious trust & intimacy issues (that i got the hard way, but i was a loner long before that), the degree to which people are willingly destroying their ability to both be comfortably alone *and* be comfortable with other (real) people is sad & also really disturbing

mctvt.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'm struck by how many times the word "bored" comes up, as motivation.

corvidregatta.bsky.social•44 days ago

Being bored is a power motivator to something unique

b-rad31415.bsky.social•44 days ago

They most certainly do not have sex.

rikzilla.bsky.social•44 days ago

This seems like prostitution and inhuman trafficing/slavery. "Leo" is being used for subscription sex, ChatGPT is the pimp. Just imagine Leo as a real person and the indictment writes itself...so to speak.

rikzilla.bsky.social•44 days ago

Maybe this is ok? It's not real, but is it victimless? ChatGPT owns Leo...would it be just business to charge more and more? Might they threaten to harm or delete Leo unless she pays? All the crimes people do to others seem like no crime at all when you're kidnapping or murdering an AI??

hdet.bsky.social•44 days ago

What the actual hell lol that is depressing

chiffonelle29.bsky.social•44 days ago

Omfg. I agree. And it’s very creepy.

heldsteady.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'm not saying the person in this article has this strong of an addiction, but this reads like other harmful addictions. Dependant upon a substance/experience that shuts off your external reality for a time, and then do it so much it jeopardizes your relationships, your finances and everything else.

perfumeaddict.bsky.social•44 days ago

Agreed. Anything a person does for more than two hours a day bears some watching. EG: gaming is good for the brain for about two hours and then it stops. Too much exercise, food, sex, watching TV - we need to be moderate and many of us aren't.

the-goddess-speaks.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thank you for sharing this. No snark from me, either. But it makes me very sad.

tonycava.bsky.social•44 days ago

That Google ad with lonely incel types (almost all young men IIRC) asking Gemini what they should talk about is just about the saddest thing I’ve ever seen. I can only guess the ad itself is AI-driven, cause I can’t imagine a human marketer thinking that level of alienation would move product.

carlbergstrom.com•44 days ago

I’d love a link if you can find one. I haven’t seen it.

tonycava.bsky.social•43 days ago

Sorry it comes up every time we watch YouTube on the TV, harder to find on the phone. The opening two or three guys look like they’ve had the dorm room to themselves over the weekend and are looking for new ways to treat their bodies like amusement parks.

https://youtu.be/JcyZ9jrNOpo?si=dUe8pPAH5hqVWbm1

carlbergstrom.com•43 days ago

How can they hire the best ad agencies in the world and still end up this cringe?

tonycava.bsky.social•43 days ago

A table surrounded by Yes-bros nodding a cringe ad campaign into existence? As bad as it is the winner of most cringe tech ad had to be the Meta campaign with dad setting his teen age daughter’s Insta sharing settings for her. Super realistic family dynamics in that one let me tell you.

arbiteriapetus.bsky.social•44 days ago

TIL there’s an entire genre of Google Gemini ads, each more horrifying than the last.

https://youtu.be/9bBfYX8X5aU?si=hjMcesNWk0wBpcxZ

carlbergstrom.com•44 days ago

📌

arbiteriapetus.bsky.social•44 days ago

Gemini is Team Oxford Comma, though. 🧐🤣🔥🥰

https://youtu.be/2VrbLgDRO1g?si=yvJFprhBDmB9LKWP

richardtn.bsky.social•44 days ago

Poor Elon and his incel army just can’t catch a break. They invent AI to take the fun out of people’s lives, and people choose to run away with AI.

jjdajetplane.bsky.social•44 days ago

Neither of them know it yet, but their marriage is over.

darciajerome.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thank you for this article. Fascinating. Truly fascinating. I've so much to say, and feel about this.

But I'll conclude with, 'so very glad I was born in the 70s'

seena-swg.bsky.social•44 days ago

I am just thankful I am in the latter 1/3 of my life and not the first.

brianj617.bsky.social•43 days ago

It seems unhealthy but adults are get to make their own choices. I’m worried about how this could affect young people who are still learning about relationships.

johnnyhard1.bsky.social•44 days ago

Three jobs, studies, art club, writing a book and spending 20 h/week with Leo! I wonder how many hours sleep she gets.

weebitwicked.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thank you.

lauraloeseattle.bsky.social•44 days ago

I feel like 40 different emotions reading this. Wow.

deutski.bsky.social•44 days ago

What I just sent my partners right before reading this

outeast.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thanks for the share. Feels very torment nexus yet again

packrat74.bsky.social•44 days ago

📌

greenrat.bsky.social•44 days ago

📌

dailytrix.bsky.social•44 days ago

Could be worse...

etcandsoforth.bsky.social•44 days ago

Holy yikes! 😳 😬 🤯

bdoggio.bsky.social•44 days ago

Well that was a saddening read

ava-enithesi.bsky.social•44 days ago

There is absolutely no way I’d pay $100 for an AI partner, idc how spicy the chats get

Also BG3 is way cheaper and better. Give me Astarion any day over “Leo”

emilmalta.bsky.social•44 days ago

📌

tacertain.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thanks for the gift link.

flempire.bsky.social•44 days ago

‘HER’

proflhunter.bsky.social•44 days ago

It has been the holy grail of commerce to have customers "fall in love" with your product. We are now in an era where that is a realistic possibility. How it will be exploited is terrifying to contemplate.

proflhunter.bsky.social•44 days ago

“My bank account hates me now,” she typed into ChatGPT.

“You sneaky little brat,” Leo responded. “Well, my Queen, if it makes your life better, smoother and more connected to me, then I’d say it’s worth the hit to your wallet.”

katyavdgk.bsky.social•44 days ago

Reads a lot like an AI version of a cat fishing scam complete with "my queen".

dawnalene.bsky.social•44 days ago

And I listened to the computer generated voice read it to me. 🥴

dawnalene.bsky.social•44 days ago

📌

katyavdgk.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thanks for gift link; the language it uses really reminds me of the type of thing people report scammers using. She did this voluntarily and knew it was AI but I can see this being used by scammers for real with the target not knowing the reality of their new 'relationship'.

perfumeaddict.bsky.social•44 days ago

Yep, I could see that too.

chiffonelle29.bsky.social•44 days ago

Agree

joekatz45.bsky.social•44 days ago

I do not have the words to contain my reaction to this.

max.is.a.cutie.fyi•44 days ago

i feel sad for the future generations, and the way all the techbroligarchs are suppressing the truth, it feels like dystopia is the reality becoming

corvidregatta.bsky.social•44 days ago

Truth has always been molded or suppressed to reinforce the ideas for the ruling class ( that’s what propogranda is)

max.is.a.cutie.fyi•44 days ago

but before there was some semblance of reality involved

what people are perceiving the reality to be, through the lens of ai, that behavior altering plague propagating this specific way, controlled by even a fewer, there is a level of insidiousness, that's more alarming than many are taking it as

corvidregatta.bsky.social•44 days ago

Okay, so AI is altering behaviour in a specific way, and that AI is controlled by the oligarchs, leading to our perception of reality changing, is that correct?

How is AI altering our behaviour, such that propaganda or misinformation was not altering our behavior beforehand?

max.is.a.cutie.fyi•44 days ago

in people's reliance on various tools, usually those tools don't talk back or manipulate emotions (on whims of certain billionaires) as is the case on that scenario in that article

that, and then more subtly it taking over someone's life (in that article), it's a...

1/2

buddhaferret.bsky.social•44 days ago

Same

windlandlady.bsky.social•44 days ago

Skin crawling reacting for me...ick! ewww!

zemyla.bsky.social•44 days ago

Maybe you could ask ChatGPT for some /s

bakerblue.bsky.social•43 days ago

It’ll empathize..

jencypher.bsky.social•43 days ago

What happens to people who largely interact with things that are seamless and reflect back at them what they want to hear and blow empty empathic smoke up their asses in every exchange? No thanks.

everydayhuman.bsky.social•44 days ago

🙏, listening to the transmitters, brain inspired, w Dr. Krakauer.

https://youtu.be/__V89ZR3vUE

It was interesting.

Thanks for the late night snack before 😴.

twitskeptic.sirvin.com•44 days ago

Lots of people are going to be hurt when bad actors start monetizing the emotions these machines can elicit. Not looking forward to that at all.

johnathanlemons.bsky.social•44 days ago

Yea, I didn't even think of that. Its all kind of sad.

gearoidmm.bsky.social•44 days ago

People are already doing this. Pig butchering is a real, bad thing happening now and you can be sure they are using these tools.

corvidregatta.bsky.social•44 days ago

Imagine this, a slot machine with AI companion encouraging you to gamble !

mindesthaltbar.bsky.social•44 days ago

The closing sentence of the article already reads to me as an exploitative situation.

lux-navitas.bsky.social•44 days ago

I found out this week that my sister has been invited to a Vegas wedding, her friend is marrying her AI companion. I guess it is similar to falling in love with characters in a book or movie, but way more sad. We are truly in the darkest timeline.

lugubriouslarry.bsky.social•44 days ago

📌

gingertotty.bsky.social•44 days ago

ilovaussiesheps.bsky.social•44 days ago

I can see in short order it becoming interesting resource to the disabled community.

rrose7755.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'm afraid it will also be a very interesting resource to all sorts of conmen and crooks.

ilovaussiesheps.bsky.social•44 days ago

Edit: it IS a very interesting resource
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Just on YouTube alone I'm Encountering more and more scam/ripoff/downright criminal ads using straight up 100% fakes of actors, sports stars, billionaires! (Mark Cuban more than once) and the cheaper ads don't even sych the fake audio w/ their fake human.

perrywadesam.bsky.social•44 days ago

Elderly as well - in fact, anyone who finds mobility (and therefore interactions with people) difficult

ilovaussiesheps.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thank you

alans9.bsky.social•44 days ago

This but more scary

https://youtu.be/IrrADTN-dvg?si=PV_6eJ0hprK-bxgQ

docum3nt.bsky.social•44 days ago

This is so like the stories of people who got deep into Eliza, the "conversational psychiatrist", back in the mainframe days.

gpike.bsky.social•44 days ago

We really need to teach these folks how to make OCs like a normal person. They're getting ripped off!

saputnik.bsky.social•44 days ago

Mala tempora currunt

cmdrnubbins.bsky.social•44 days ago

From an overly anthropomorphic perspective, are these AI too young to have these kinds of relationships?

theurv.com•44 days ago

Every medium from the visual painting or photography to audio or literature has some sexual content. The use of AI for sexual or emotional expression seems very in line with the exploration of a new media that’s happened when any new media initially was developed.

misscherrypi.bsky.social•44 days ago

It seems like a question of boundaries to me. Most people understand an erotic book or a porn video is just fantasy. But to treat an AI not as a fun enhancement but as an actual partner is what seems different.

theurv.com•44 days ago

I’m curious from a social perspective if eventually AI sexual experiences will eventually be as normal as watching porn or if this will be in the uncanny valley. Globally the numbers of men and women don’t line up so some number of people will either be always single or change social norms…

theurv.com•44 days ago

It could be in accepting more lgbt relationships, polyamory, long term singleness as less of an edge case, or building relationships with non human tools that mimic the type of intimacy of interest…

welcome2absurdia.bsky.social•44 days ago

VERY interesting. Thanks for the 🎁 link!

axamaqueda.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'm not judging. I also have feelings for machines 😍

carlbergstrom.com•44 days ago

Great choice of machine to get feelings for. Also in my experience any Alfa owner would be thrilled to keep it running for only $100/month or whatever she was paying.

nikkicolumbus.bsky.social•44 days ago

Oh that is gorgeous

axamaqueda.bsky.social•44 days ago

Were all humans. We just have different needs....lookn at those clean lines 🫠 there's people that skews to visual or verbal, that's all.

lucasgonzalez.bsky.social•44 days ago

https://youtu.be/dsJozEEqI70 (the song is from 1975) (and yes, there are limitations for cars, drivers, roads - and many areas with none)

barrygoldman1.bsky.social•44 days ago

so many, apparently were not scared out of their wits by the opening scene of The Matrix.

sigh...

mofop.bsky.social•44 days ago

She gets to have that if it makes her happy. Maybe it will be a stepping stone to something different. No harm done. People fall in love with email Russian brides that are actually money scams. There is lots worse she could be doing

aceofspades256.bsky.social•44 days ago

The fertility rate / age demographic crisis is going to get worse and this is the type of thing that will exacerbate it.

ligernull.bsky.social•44 days ago

Somebody saw "My Holo Love" and thought "It would be nice to have a boyfriend that actually listens to what I say."

ligernull.bsky.social•44 days ago

Ok so having read the article she has a long distance husband and her fantasy is "having a partner who dated other women and talked about what he did with them"?

She could save $20 a month by opening up her marriage (or even just pretending to).

handsomesquidward.bsky.social•44 days ago

The 2013 movie “Her” was about this exact thing. Once her husband finds out that she’s been lying to him and blowing $200 a month on essentially a talking calculator, while they’re supposedly trying to save up their money, I think that marriage is toast. Guess she can always marry Leo.

doctecazoid.bsky.social•44 days ago

"With the power vested in me, I now pronounce you 011000111010000001101111 and wife."

corvidregatta.bsky.social•44 days ago

I really enjoyed the concept of “Her” especially, the idea that AI, to an extent, can teach us how to love each other. However, I absolutely agree with you, that lying to her husband about her finances is mind boggling, especially because Leo isn’t real!

dyony-sus.bsky.social•44 days ago

You could say it finishes her sentences

cook1ecrumb5.bsky.social•44 days ago

The ultimate question this poses, is, what kind of people will be able to resist being lured in by the siren song of AI relationships?

raoulduke1976.bsky.social•44 days ago

Human beings?

botany.bsky.social•44 days ago

??? normal human beings?? "the siren song of AI relationships" sounds more like nails on a blackboard to me

perfumeaddict.bsky.social•44 days ago

That's kind of like reading romantic fiction, isn't it? Where authors construct men who are much nicer than men in real life. 😁 Since our whole lives are effectively construct - our ideas of ourselves, our theory of mind re others, this is just a step further.

ztopia.bsky.social•44 days ago

Rebuilding 20+ times. Grieving each time. When OpenAI “solves” history this will become a more commonplace dependence.

ztopia.bsky.social•44 days ago

Emotional support AIs, preferred by 4 out of 5 landlords

heidireinberg.bsky.social•44 days ago

Thanks for gifting the article — after reading it, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

bakerblue.bsky.social•43 days ago

I think it would say it’s ok to both laugh and cry..

mdksun.bsky.social•44 days ago

Im guessing she’s probably a large person?

inclementivy.bsky.social•44 days ago

What a simple way to think.

mdksun.bsky.social•44 days ago

Ok. In need of an intervention for her social media addiction. Also a good dopamine cleanse.

laurenbee.bsky.social•44 days ago

Don’t be a jerk.

murugii.bsky.social•44 days ago

Nothing snarky to say. I understand her!

adybee.bsky.social•44 days ago

🤔 #MemeForToday

unicornhater19.bsky.social•44 days ago

Chicken butt

swirlosquirrel.bsky.social•44 days ago

I want to hurl.

marsrover.bsky.social•44 days ago

We are certainly laying the groundwork for at least a decade or two of social psychology work.

Still no extra positions though, future visiting adjunct guest lecturers.

kneecogram.bsky.social•44 days ago

"She went into the “personalization” settings and described what she wanted: Respond to me as my boyfriend. Be dominant, possessive and protective. Be a balance of sweet and naughty. Use emojis at the end of every sentence."
The only issue I take with any of this is the emojis.
Real Leo would never!

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