She should have made the decision to retire. We wouldn't be in the dire circumstances we are in now if she had done so. IMO she obliterated all of her gains by the losses we have suffer and will continue to suffer for her selfishness.
Mate, you're talking about an octogenarian who insisted on working until 90, died trying, and was replaced with a grifter appointed by other grifters... you got to come to terms with this. She didn't belong in the supreme court. She belonged in a fucking nursing home.
Weβve had numerous men serving in various branches of government who were ancient-older than dirt. Strom Thurman anyone? The difference-no one clamors for them to step down. Women are consistently attacked for aging. I donβt see two truths. I see the usual holding women to a different standard.
*speaks in old person* Listen up Jack,... starts drifting into the jungle...
Joe Biden was literally just told he was too old to run 3 months before the election, come on... We call it a gerontocracy for a reason... this is one of the few things where america doesnt discriminate by gender...
No one cares. People dislike her because she was a narcissist. Man or woman... If someone has declining health, multiple surgeries and TWO instances of cancer they should step down from a LIFETIME appointment for the betterment of the country.
LOL okee dokee. Post was a quote from RBG not Strom Thurman, that's why I offered a comment.... on RBG. It was selfish for her to hang on, TO ME. If you feel otherwise, rock on widja badself and get down tonight Meanwhile, we're stuck with a hard right, Trump-appointed court for the next 3 decades.
Sorry, all of her accomplishments have been washed away because she would not retire when begged by the president to give him an opportunity find a suitable replacement. Now we live in a lawless country.
It isn't all her fault but it shows an unusual lack of insight when measured against the rest of her career and analogous of how the Democratic party writ large has handled itself recently.
If you want to blame the Democrats, blame the living ones who arenβt doing any better, ones that are here today voting for the rapist-felon-insurrectionist policies/cabinet picks than a woman whoβs been dead nearly 5 years. The ones who havenβt figured out a viable strategy, the ones in Congress.
I blame Democratic Leadership in general. They have been ineffectual and weak my entire adult life, and when it mattered the most they rolled over and pissed on themselves. Folks like Schumer and Pelosi still couldn't find the spine to really stand up to him when it mattered most. They failed us.
I blame the voters in red states and non voters - who always vote and not vote against their best interests. Anything decent that we has has come from Democratic legislation. But it's never enough because too many people are lazy uninformed and racist.
It's all hypothetical anyways. I personally don't think she'd have won the primary had Biden stepped aside earlier and allowed us to have one π€·ββοΈ
Slightly less shitty as a fair assessment. She is not responsible for the fact that so-called Democratic voters didnβt show up, but those interested in a dictatorship did.
Voting for Clinton and Harris is not a counter-point; it does not negate the possibility for a human being to place a vote for a woman while still being a misogynist.
I dont think thats what theyre suggesting. RBG shouldve stepped down when she had cancer, and an opportunity to have a voice in her replacement. It was wildly irresponsible and egotistical to not do so. Fact.
She is far from the only one to make mistakes in their career. Why are we blaming a woman who had a highly distinguished, influential career. Let's blame the politicians who jammed in Amy, C Thomas, or the crybaby.
Let's blame the patriarchal govt who has always been threatened by highly intelligent women. Let's blame all those who don't believe women when they speak up.
nice having a conversation with yourself because you are not having one with me. She should have retires - we are in a mess - I voted for Clinton and Harris and extending blame to all woman is not from me.
Yeah THAT'S why.. It's totally RBG's fault.
Not the fact we live in an oligarchical capitalist society where big business pays to control what our politicians say/do....
learn the meaning of words please - she did not bow out gracefully - TRUE - We now live in a lawless society - TRUE - are they linked and how - I never specified. But I will say this - a 5-4 court might have had a different character than a 6-3.
No.
This still would've been a capitalist shithole where Democrats abuse the idea of progress to keep us from getting any, & Republicans fight them like hell because they're stupid enough to think it's real; as if they're not both supporting the same big business interests over American interests.
Yes, thankfully you weren't *that* silly, but you still implied that somehow RBG could've done anything that would've prevented all this, when she in fact couldn't.
So? RBG stepping down early in the O years was an easy solution. It would just take a single person making up her mind to do the right thing, and then all the other factors wouldn't matter. As compared to a problem like "ensure the GOP doesn't capture the presidency as long as RBG is still
Sorry. She totally fucked up the Supreme Court by refusing to retire because she loved the limelight. She individually caused this country so much damage.
The third image that I sent is definitely telling. They want us to be back in 1955... Remember a GOOD wife always knows her place.
Actual magazine from March 1955.
SO MUCH RESPECT for RBG.
Saw a photo of ReTHUGlicans meeting on allocation of funding for WOMEN'S Healthcare. NOT ONE UTERUS in the room. All old white gray haired men, every single one where Republican right wing GOP. Deciding what WOMEN are ALLOWED/PERMITTED. Laws about our body
#StopProject2025
Women belong wherever they choose to belong. Same for men. Gender and sex has nothing to do with it. We are all human and anything more is just trivia.
THANKS TO THIS GERIATRIC DIPSHIT AND THE OTHER FATASS SCALIA WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE 30 YEARS AGO, THE DEMS LOST CONTROL OF THE SUPREME COURT AND THEY NEVER GET IT BACK.... THE STUPID FUCK !!!!
WHAT A DIFFERENT AMERICA IT WOULD BE IF KAMALA WAS PRESIDENT WHAT YOU VOTED IN IS A PSHYCOPATH AND ANARCHY YOU GOT WHAT YOU VOTED FOR NOW YOUR GOING TO REALLY SUFFER YOU FUCKING MORONS
Honestly, we were all indoctrinated into hating ourselves. Iβm so fortunate that I snapped out of that shyte. It is so insidious, most people donβt even realize it. Even women using insulting terms for not great people are still using the βcβ word and the βpβ word. Itβs just there. Folks hate women.
Be lucky if there are schools in 10 years. .The BURNT Orange MAGA Pappy wants everyone as stupid as him including his spawn from three wives, their mega-plastic-surgeries (sadly, brains werenβt included) and if Play-Doh is out of business, Republicans can sell their spines to start it up again.
Picket in droves daily on SCOTUS steps-- 100x more when they're in session. They need to see the enemy is their jackass "presidential immunity" & Citizens United rulings. Hell, I'm still pissed as hell about its Gore v Bush atrocity. #SCOTUS #sistersinlaw @senecaproject.us @harrylitman.bsky.social
Her replacement only (Barrett) believes that for herself. It sickens me she actually has children and influences them. She hated Justice Ginsburg. He goal was to tear down what she stood for. Her time as a justice will be short.
Reasonably certain that there would be a lot fewer wars & less cruelty in the world if we had more woman leaders. Always seems to be men who are afraid of appearing weak that cause untold suffering. Childish machismo that equates reasonableness & compromise for the greater good as weakness. ππ
I will never forgive this woman for refusing to give up her seat to Obama, and then also Obama for not demanding it.
The goddamn hubris of this gerontocracy
She was astute and wise but she destroyed more than she could have ever known by not heeding President Obamaβs plea to retire. She dug in, deep in. If she had lived to see the aftermath, she would regret it. #termlimits
well, RBG did not "Belong" in the Supreme Court during Obama's final years! It is her inability to resign and get past her own ego, that cost us the court and gave us this MAGA court instead. Spare me the RBG quotes
Just watched an @margaretatwood.bsky.social interview saying women would be better off in Gillead than in some of our states at the current moment. This was just after the election before the last few weeks.
Do women belong in the leadership of an all-male army where some men are being sent to their deaths in combat? How about in leadership over jobs that women refuse to do, like working on high voltage power lines 1,000' about the ground?
Should men be involved in decisions about, say, midwifery?
I both love her and hate her. She should have resigned when Obama was president. Democrats can't seem to play the long game; they are all too often caught up with their own selfishness.
Ummmmm, do you not remember the Republicans not letting him confirm anybody for the court because he couldnβt run again?!? Did you seriously forget that part?
I did not forget. What you are referring to was what GOP members parrotted during the last year of Obama's second term. If RBG retired as soon as Obama won, the first time, or anytime during the second year of term one, or anytime during year one of term two... or year two of term two...
In the November 2008 elections, the Democratic Party increased its majorities in both chambers. When Obama was president in January 2009, she could have quit.
Everyone was so sure Clinton was going to win and RBG wanted Clinton to be able to name her successor. It would have been historic. And in any other timeline, it would have been fine.
But, RBG would have had to step down in Obama's first term or Congress would've pulled stunts.
For the good of the country, there was zero downside to her stepping down in O's first term. And there was always a substantial risk that a Republican would eventually win the presidency.
She was a narcissistic monster and she's frying in hell right now.
In fact, in a regular situation of average Americans who are married, the female makes most of the decisions. The male might think he does, but only to the conclusion that the female has led him to.
You obviously havenβt heard of Liz Truss, Suella Braverman, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries, Kemi Badenoch and many others that have infected our democratic parliament!
This is coming from the crowd that wants gay porn in grade schools, wears pussy hats and vulva suits, and who celebrates performances like the "Vagina Monologues". Maybe you should sit this one out.
I'm already there. The world is my cave. I just happen to like (love) women, and I think all women, including my wife and daughters, should be able to make their own decisions about how they're "allowed" to participate in society regardless of who does or does not agree with them.
Rbg made her moron decisions like staying in office until she died and TRUMP appointed her replacement instead of Obama. Women are stupid and greedy instead of working for all Americans.
She got us into this mess with the Supreme Court and 54% of white women voted for a rapist ! Women are just as much to blame for this mess if not more !
She belongs in the dustbin of history for selfishly hanging on to her spot on SCOTUS instead of stepping down so Obama could nominate her replacement. RBG is the reason Roe vs Wade was overturned. Donβt forget this.
No, sheβs not THE reason. Letβs all place blame where it belongs instead of tearing down one woman like sheβs some evil mastermind behind everything. Her contributions deserve to be celebrated.
Never said she was an evil mastermind. She was a selfish person who cared more about her ego than the women of the US who lost an important right when Trump replaced her seat with a conservative. Do you already forget she hid a battle with cancer!? She should be remembered for this betrayal.
Instead of stepping down much earlier and increasing the odds of a liberal judge replacing her, she held on for the chance to be replaced by a female president, for obvious but idiotic reasons. (We should not forget Obamaβs role, and his lack of urgency and political skills, in this as well)
In the US, women control between $5 to $15 trillion in consumer spending annually. Women control more than 60% of personal wealth! Women purchase over 50% of traditional male products, like automobiles, home improvement products, and electronics
Let's use our power! Don't buy anything on Wednesdays
We definitely do a lot of the spending, shopping, it gets delegated to us because shopping is boring, inconvenient etc and we seem to have the patience for taking our time to get it right. this will make an impact
Apparently, a majority of white women disagree with this. With White Women for Trump, Latinos for Trump, Farmers for Trump, Unions for Trump, Muslims for Trump... it's getting hard for me, as a white male, to continue caring. I do, but it's getting hard.
Agreed but she should have decided to retire before a Republican nutjob could replace her. It was her ethical duty and she failed all of us. She was also racist.
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Joe Biden was literally just told he was too old to run 3 months before the election, come on... We call it a gerontocracy for a reason... this is one of the few things where america doesnt discriminate by gender...
No one cares. People dislike her because she was a narcissist. Man or woman... If someone has declining health, multiple surgeries and TWO instances of cancer they should step down from a LIFETIME appointment for the betterment of the country.
I don't think it's working. We need to think deeper, we need to do better.
spewing more garbage I see
So, by your token, if someone *doesn't* vote for the same two women you did, they must hate women, as that's the sole qualifier.
Rather than ask "now who doesn't have reading comprehension," I'll wait. Cede?
Men like him do not realise or consider how half the world is stymied by the other, and what a pathetic singular entity this makes of us all.
Not the fact we live in an oligarchical capitalist society where big business pays to control what our politicians say/do....
This still would've been a capitalist shithole where Democrats abuse the idea of progress to keep us from getting any, & Republicans fight them like hell because they're stupid enough to think it's real; as if they're not both supporting the same big business interests over American interests.
The above comment is ridiculous because the problems go further back than just RBG and Biden BECAUSE things have multiple causes.
Are you really this fucking dumb?
Actual magazine from March 1955.
Saw a photo of ReTHUGlicans meeting on allocation of funding for WOMEN'S Healthcare. NOT ONE UTERUS in the room. All old white gray haired men, every single one where Republican right wing GOP. Deciding what WOMEN are ALLOWED/PERMITTED. Laws about our body
#StopProject2025
Kristin Noem
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Lauren Boebert
Elise Stefanik
Susan Collins
Cyndy Hyde-Smith
Or Ginsberg when she should have retired to hold SCOTUS liberal seat
VAGINAS DON'T GURANTEE INTELLIGENCE OR CRITICAL THOUGHT OR EMPATHY
Cy dui
Marsha Blackburn
Katie Britt
It's not that the right people aren't making decisions, it's that EVERYONE is not involved.
When you give power to a small group of people it's inevitable that the rest of us will be abused.
I am shocked at the misogynist crap I hear out of women in 2024.
#WOMENSRIGHTS #GIRLS #REPRODUCTIVERIGHTS #abortion #abortions #healthcare #rights #humanrights #feminism #justice #fascism
End #sexism & #misogyny !
No bueno RIP
The USA has turned into Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, within two weeks.
Women are now seen as 3rd class citizens in America!
Maybe we canβt get to the orchestrators of this mess, but we can get to others. JS!
We're not talking about just handing that right to some rando just because she's a woman.
https://traffic.libsyn.com/yinhistory/EP33-Womens_RIghts.mp3
The goddamn hubris of this gerontocracy
https://youtu.be/hij5MbcICm4?si=i0mx3Nfyga254lfu
Should men be involved in decisions about, say, midwifery?
She made this happen.
Great.
Just calling balls and strikes.
She fucked women through her selfishness.
That's her legacy.
Common sense - LOL
Are you Blue MAGA or something?
Why can't there be nuance and objectivity?
There are incredible men and incredible women.
We need more of both.
Love me some AOC, Ilhan, Klobuchar, I think Lina Khan is awesome, etc etc
YOU, are part of the problem.
Why can't there be nuance and objectivity? <--What?
There are incredible men and incredible women.
We need more of both. <--Nothing I said warranted this.
YOU, are part of the problem. <--No, it sounds like you're uncomfortable being called out and gotta
But, RBG would have had to step down in Obama's first term or Congress would've pulled stunts.
She was a narcissistic monster and she's frying in hell right now.
But if itβs a lady Nazi, well, how dare you critique her?
I hate our inability to objectively dissect people & situations.
She was arguably racist, inarguably opposed to native sovereignty, and stayed in the SC despite declining health and TWO instances of cancer.
We need more women input where decisions are made!
The Notorious RBG!
https://youtu.be/biIRlcQqmOc?si=PYyknIoUealkFNyi
Strong women built this country, and everyone knows they're the real heads of the household.
Small or tall, they have spines of steel and hearts of gold.
Proud supporter of women's rights here.
It's been tested and now it's a proven fact.
Just sayin'
Let's use our power! Don't buy anything on Wednesdays
To clarify...
If you have an issue with her, that's one thing...
...but if your response is NO, then you are simply disagreeing with the quote.
And that says a lot about you...