Living for the Ben Shapiro fans tearing him apart for his attempt to turn the CEO assassination into a left vs. right issue. We have been divided by politics so that we don’t see that we are united by class. People are getting wise. - ThreadSky

miniminuteman.bsky.social • 74 days ago

Living for the Ben Shapiro fans tearing him apart for his attempt to turn the CEO assassination into a left vs. right issue.

We have been divided by politics so that we don’t see that we are united by class.

People are getting wise.

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metavulture.com•73 days ago

If we united at a working class people (which we are) embraced class consciousness (which we should) and worked toward a better future (which I hope we will) we could make this country a heck of a lot better.

The more they take from us, the less we have to lose.

suhnih.kawaii.social•74 days ago

LETSGO

flypusher713.bsky.social•73 days ago

It is informative to see how many people are deliberately missing the point. The American health insurance edifice is indeed parasitic and soulless and deadly.

flypusher713.bsky.social•73 days ago

The slain CEO has become a symbol for all that. He may have been a very pleasant person IRL to his family and friends, but he was part of an evil business model. People are outraged over the business model. It’s as simple as that.

vexvexvex.bsky.social•74 days ago

Honestly surprised there isn’t more clumsily disguised antisemitism if it’s his typical audience.

joelsftw.bsky.social•74 days ago

This is a beautiful thing that people are now realizing this about the daily wire.

cd53.bsky.social•73 days ago

The only issue I have is that these comments are coming from bot farms. While yes, there are real people in that comment section voicing their displeasure with the system. It's a multi website issue that these companies will not fix because it drives engagement, which in turn drives up ad revenue

cd53.bsky.social•73 days ago

And that's not getting into how YouTube auto hides replies, a highly frustrating feature that manufacturers the shape of the conversions

lexi-the-kitty.bsky.social•74 days ago

Ummm? Based take Milo?

nochethedog1.bsky.social•74 days ago

Hell yeah fuck Ben Shapiro. I honestly haven’t heard shit about him for like a few months until now.

purdypete.bsky.social•73 days ago

I love this. Don’t eat the rich folks. We need them for fertilizer.

obiknoke.bsky.social•73 days ago

Donald Trump was elected again, and he tried to take health insurance from 30million Americans, so I really don't think voters actually care about access to healthcare 🤷

sktz.live•74 days ago

Watching the American working class actually starting to gain class consciousness in real time feels great. I really hope this momentum keeps moving forward.

lorethelegend.bsky.social•74 days ago

It's glorious! Now hopefully these people will do some research and think about why they thought millionaires cared about them in the first place.

acewizardnz.bsky.social•73 days ago

Shit like this brings me hope, maybe class consciousness isn't impossible for Americans.

free2playlesspays.bsky.social•73 days ago

too little too late

ermwhatthesigmar.bsky.social•74 days ago

Hopefully it's not a one time thing. I'd love to see the grifter empires collapse

seraduke.bsky.social•74 days ago

Ben Shapiro makes my ovaries shrivel up like raisins.

lenajk2004.bsky.social•73 days ago

Reminds me of my favourite quote; "Sell their houses to who Ben? FUCKING AQUAMAN?!"

loreseekerowyn.bsky.social•73 days ago

Class consciousness is a start, but until they stop being homophobic, transphobic, and misogynistic, they're still part of the problem.

jigglybitch.bsky.social•73 days ago

Funny thing is Ben is actually correct here; if you're right wing, aka a capitalist, you would naturally be angry about it. The fact they are not is a contradiction in their beliefs that can only be resolved by no longer being right wing or by no longer believing in left wing healthcare rights.

jigglybitch.bsky.social•73 days ago

Basically you can't be both left and right at the same time because that means being anti-capitalist and capitalist at the same time.

Anyone who is confused may be conflating the social axis - progressive to conservative - with the economic axis of left and right.

mjerc12.bsky.social•73 days ago

It's not entirely true. Most capitalists, at least in Europe, believes there need to be regulations to not form an oligarchy. And I, as a socialdemocrat, absolutely am celebrating (though I would consider myself economic center rather than right)

jigglybitch.bsky.social•73 days ago

That would make you a centrist. Capitalism never lets centrism succeed, see Corbyn, Sanders etc. That's why we treat it as a dichotomy because in effect it really is. It's capitalism or socialism, and socialism cannot be created through capitalist electoralism because the capitalists control it.

taeerom.bsky.social•73 days ago

Democratic capitalism has existed for more than a hundred years. It's the most normal form of capitalism.

Most, if not all democratic capitalist countries have some form of regulation and some form of welfare systems. Things you call "centrist" that apparantly can't succeed.

jigglybitch.bsky.social•73 days ago

Capitalism is a form of centralism just like feudalism theocracy and monarchy All the power is at the top. Centralism always exists in a state of turmoil so capitalism creates an illusion of democracy to placate you. How else can you explain the stark contrast between public opinion and the parties.

jigglybitch.bsky.social•73 days ago

These were concessions made after WW2 when the prospect of rebuilding made communism seem too attractive especially as communists had almost singlehandedly defeated the nazis - We can't be having a world war every time we want capitalists to throw us a bone

Democratic capitalism is a juxtaposition

rstevies.bsky.social•74 days ago

Shapiro is such a little shit weasel.

nochethedog1.bsky.social•74 days ago

Shapiro the shit weasel

kafkadesk.bsky.social•65 days ago

Killing is good. Even the right agree.

sim1-lazarus.bsky.social•72 days ago

Actually, "Workers of the world, unite" is literally from the communist manifest, which is what is used to be the "left".

So yes,to be united by class *is* a strong political stance.

ravencorax.bsky.social•73 days ago

Wacht auf verdammte dieser Erde...

quechato.bsky.social•73 days ago

Hurra die Welt geht unter

ravencorax.bsky.social•73 days ago

Zwar nicht der selbe song aber passt auch

quechato.bsky.social•73 days ago

Oh, ich kenne dein Lied nicht! Wie heißt es?

ravencorax.bsky.social•73 days ago

Die Internationale. Es ist ein Klassenkampf Lied. Dachte dass passt ganz gut 😅

quechato.bsky.social•73 days ago

Stimmt! ich werde nachschauen, danke

dandysdto.bsky.social•73 days ago

This shows me just how infuriatingly skewed a ton of people’s understanding of what left wing politics is about. Left wing politics is, at its core, about removing the alienation of the masses caused by capitalism and the offshoots of that that keep us divided.

dandysdto.bsky.social•73 days ago

The right has used the Culture War distraction for so long that these people think that actual left wing politics (the class struggle of the poor against the rich) isn’t actually a left wing issue.

pfoxen.bsky.social•74 days ago

One can only hope that they pause to think "if they're this wrong about THIS thing that affects me, how wrong are they on other things that don't?"

vifs-vestige.bsky.social•74 days ago

hehehehe yes yessss

asciim0v.bsky.social•74 days ago

Hopefully it isn't a one off

moonmelons.bsky.social•74 days ago

This whole thing has caused me to hear a phrase recently that I can't stop thinking about.
"FDR saved the necks of the wealthy by giving the people some hope, and the wealthy have never stopped hating him for it."

flypusher713.bsky.social•73 days ago

Some of the wealthy had a clue. Joseph Kennedy Sr. Supposedly said that he’d rather lose half of his $ in taxes than all of it to an angry mob. The rich already have an extremely low tax rate, compared to past history, but they still don’t have enough. Idiots! Big wealth gaps kill societies.

stuartdonaldson22.bsky.social•73 days ago

Read The Sum of Us. If a company management can get the White employees to fear advancement by Black employees, then they can keep all employees' wages low.

dankayur.bsky.social•74 days ago

Perfect!

scamperton.bsky.social•56 days ago

Their whole existence is dependent on creating hate and division. That’s all they got

calliesperson.bsky.social•74 days ago

It’s always been about class. Why do you all think the 1% donates so heavily to a certain type of candidate? So the cattle (that’s what they think of us) keep fighting each other.

shychko.bsky.social•74 days ago

Ben will never have to worry about being funded extremely well, no matter how much or little engagement he gets for bad takes. It's baked in the cake.

star-bit.bsky.social•73 days ago

wasn't one of the big headlines about not changing the culture war to a class war?

idk, this all drives me GOOGELDEBUNKERS!

nymnesis.net•74 days ago

It's... honestly very nice to see people uniting under one common cause

Everyone has dealt with insurance issues one way or the other, everyone sees how flawed the system is

you cannot try and turn this into left vs right, not when people on the right have had family killed by these sharks

nullboi404.bsky.social•73 days ago

this was such an incredible thing to witness

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spaceorcats.bsky.social•73 days ago

Watch Ben double down and trying to convince his audience "CEOs are good, actually, and our healthcare system is fine" is wild. He isn't getting the hint.

fi-loy.bsky.social•73 days ago

I don't really think Americans are divided by class, the difference between rich and poor is a gradient with no clear distinction, not to mention Americans are some of the most economically mobile people on the planet

i.am.brandonfannin.com•73 days ago

The promise of easy upward mobility aids in the division. Why be critical if you might be rich one day? Even fairly well off people can be destroyed by losing a job, or facing a medical expense. But they won't be critical because they are fairly well off. It's Billionaires vs the rest of us

tarmogoof.bsky.social•73 days ago

This is a bad way to look at it due to variation in cost of living across the country.

Like 45k is poverty wages in California and New York, but coming close to being able to buy a house in Arkansas.

burntclover.bsky.social•73 days ago

The wealthy hide their money in assets and bonuses from the companies they own. It’s easily for them to produce value for selves that’s not strictly salary.

fi-loy.bsky.social•73 days ago

Ok? I still think class identity doesn't really work because once we get into the edge cases of whose in and whose out, you're going to have trouble drawing any clear distinctions

tarmogoof.bsky.social•73 days ago

You are working class if you work for wages.

Simple as.

Even someone making 200k is closer to becoming homeless than they are to becoming bourgeoisie

fi-loy.bsky.social•73 days ago

Its actually not "simple as".

CEOs ARE employees. They work for salaries.

Sure, they got stock options, but many regular workers get stock options in the business as well!

This is what I mean by clear distinctions are hard to make, you dig into the details and realize there's a bit more nuance

tarmogoof.bsky.social•73 days ago

CEOs are only a but more tricky.

Like Elon musk is a ceo, but also owns 4 companies. Easy he's bourgeoisie.

CEO of your local nonprofit is most likely labor aristocracy.

burntclover.bsky.social•73 days ago

Edge cases would be difficult to parse it is a good
Yet it not a reason to not do it, just a reason to be careful.

the vast disparity between the classes either needs to be adjusted else it will eventually shatter.

fi-loy.bsky.social•73 days ago

I agree with you that Americans need to deal with the economic disparity that they experience otherwise its going to lead to social unrest

My main gripe with this whole CEO shooter business is that I think there are better ways to do that than vigilante justice

burntclover.bsky.social•73 days ago

Their really fucking should be a better way shouldn’t there.
And yet, the people with the power to make that change keep not doing it. (Elected representatives)

Murder being the thing that got their attention is a shame and disappointment.
And yet it doesn’t surprise me at all.